The most unofficial Bobcat gameday thread - Eastern Washington

[91catAlum]

Would've liked to see a stronger showing from the defense today but the bottom line is that we won. And the fact that it was close instead of another blowout will probably serve this team well in the long run.

I'm old enough to remember when 14 points was considered 'not close'.

That's a cool story but the game was within 7 points until the last 3 or 4 minutes.

MSU had a 75%+ win probability for 45 minutes of the game. The game was close at 28-28 for about 7 seconds with a minute left in the 3rd, after that, EWU never had the ball with a chance to take the lead for the entire 4th.

This was NOT anything resembling a 'close' game.


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They had the ball several times with a chance to tie or take the lead.
Not sure what you're smoking but can I have some?

Take lead if they go for 2. And Tommy ended that on 1 play.

It was tied at 28 when Tommy scored. That put us up by 7.
We didn't go up by 14 until there was under 4 minutes left in the game.

So when did they have chance to take the lead? Unless they went for 2, they never had one.

Only if they went for 2, which ewu might've done had they scored a TD later in the 4th quarter. Teams that are 2-6 that have a chance against the #2 team often do things like that.

My point is just that the game was close the whole 2nd half until we went up by 14 with under 4 minutes to go. I find it strange that everyone is arguing with me about that. When the score is 35-28 for most of the 4th quarter, that's a close game in my opinion and i think in most people's opinion.

[Bocephus]

Would've liked to see a stronger showing from the defense today but the bottom line is that we won. And the fact that it was close instead of another blowout will probably serve this team well in the long run.

I'm old enough to remember when 14 points was considered 'not close'.

That's a cool story but the game was within 7 points until the last 3 or 4 minutes.

MSU had a 75%+ win probability for 45 minutes of the game. The game was close at 28-28 for about 7 seconds with a minute left in the 3rd, after that, EWU never had the ball with a chance to take the lead for the entire 4th.

This was NOT anything resembling a 'close' game.


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They had the ball several times with a chance to tie or take the lead.
Not sure what you're smoking but can I have some?

Take lead if they go for 2. And Tommy ended that on 1 play.

It was tied at 28 when Tommy scored. That put us up by 7.
We didn't go up by 14 until there was under 4 minutes left in the game.

So when did they have chance to take the lead? Unless they went for 2, they never had one.

Only if they went for 2, which ewu might've done had they scored a TD later in the 4th quarter. Teams that are 2-6 that have a chance against the #2 team often do things like that.

My point is just that the game was close the whole 2nd half until we went up by 14 with under 4 minutes to go. I find it strange that everyone is arguing with me about that. When the score is 35-28 for most of the 4th quarter, that's a close game in my opinion and i think in most people's opinion.

I find it strange too. What is the point of arguing a one score game through most of the 4th isn’t close?

[91catAlum]

Would've liked to see a stronger showing from the defense today but the bottom line is that we won. And the fact that it was close instead of another blowout will probably serve this team well in the long run.

I'm old enough to remember when 14 points was considered 'not close'.

That's a cool story but the game was within 7 points until the last 3 or 4 minutes.

MSU had a 75%+ win probability for 45 minutes of the game. The game was close at 28-28 for about 7 seconds with a minute left in the 3rd, after that, EWU never had the ball with a chance to take the lead for the entire 4th.

This was NOT anything resembling a 'close' game.


https://www.espn.com/college-football/g ... washington

They had the ball several times with a chance to tie or take the lead.
Not sure what you're smoking but can I have some?

Take lead if they go for 2. And Tommy ended that on 1 play.

It was tied at 28 when Tommy scored. That put us up by 7.
We didn't go up by 14 until there was under 4 minutes left in the game.

So when did they have chance to take the lead? Unless they went for 2, they never had one.

Only if they went for 2, which ewu might've done had they scored a TD later in the 4th quarter. Teams that are 2-6 that have a chance against the #2 team often do things like that.

My point is just that the game was close the whole 2nd half until we went up by 14 with under 4 minutes to go. I find it strange that everyone is arguing with me about that. When the score is 35-28 for most of the 4th quarter, that's a close game in my opinion and i think in most people's opinion.

I find it strange too. What is the point of arguing a one score game through most of the 4th isn’t close?

THANK YOU! I thought I was living in the twilight zone for a while.

[Long Time Cat]

How did Eastern fare against the best in the Big Sky?
EWU scored 49 against UM on the road lost by 3
EWU scored 38 against UCD at home lost by 10
EWU scored 28 against Idaho on the road lost by 10
EWU scored 28 against MSU at home lost by 14
Looks like they played them all tough and the Cats did better than any of the others. To me it's one more statistic that indicates the Cats are the best team in the conference.

[grizzh8r]

Well…the linebackers will have a lot of teachable moments from this game.

With that said, I don’t think this game was as bad as I originally thought. Sounds like the team prepared for the starting QB, and EWU played a lot different with Taylor in. A lot of QB run obviously. That’s a tough transition to make schematically that late in the game for a defense. By and large, most of the big EWU plays came via “trickery”, gadget stuff, lots of eye candy. Super reminiscent of our offense under Choate. Very difficult to defend when unprepared. And honestly, Eastern played darn well on offense and defense. Have to give them credit, they played really well, and we probably played our B game. We’re a darn good team.

Yeah, Ewoo had 3 rushes over 20 yards, one for 75. And the eagles still only averaged 5.8 ypc. Letting a RB bust out a 75 yarder is totally uncharacteristic of this defense.

EWU is a pretty decent team...losses to a really solid Drake team (6-1) SELA (5-3 all losses to ranked teams) UM, Davis, and Idaho, all top 10 Teams. In their home games they put up 42, 32, 49, & 38...MSU D held them to 2 TDs below their average.

Honestly, if EWOO had MSUs schedule they'd probably be a top 25 team instead of on the verge of firing all their coaches.

Cats were far from perfect (seriously, a delay of game on the first snap?) but they rolled a better than average team. On the road. Again.

First, that wasn't a RB, it was the QB, #6. Second, there was a blatant hold on that play that was missed by the officiating crew. That missed call directly resulted in springing the QB. On the whole, Eastern got away with a ton of uncalled penalties yesterday. Grebe was held nearly every play and I don't think the player holding him was called a single time for holding. At least they correctly threw the flag on the illegal men downfield on the fake punt, as it was absolutely the correct call.

[BleedingBLue]

Well…the linebackers will have a lot of teachable moments from this game.

With that said, I don’t think this game was as bad as I originally thought. Sounds like the team prepared for the starting QB, and EWU played a lot different with Taylor in. A lot of QB run obviously. That’s a tough transition to make schematically that late in the game for a defense. By and large, most of the big EWU plays came via “trickery”, gadget stuff, lots of eye candy. Super reminiscent of our offense under Choate. Very difficult to defend when unprepared. And honestly, Eastern played darn well on offense and defense. Have to give them credit, they played really well, and we probably played our B game. We’re a darn good team.

Yeah, Ewoo had 3 rushes over 20 yards, one for 75. And the eagles still only averaged 5.8 ypc. Letting a RB bust out a 75 yarder is totally uncharacteristic of this defense.

EWU is a pretty decent team...losses to a really solid Drake team (6-1) SELA (5-3 all losses to ranked teams) UM, Davis, and Idaho, all top 10 Teams. In their home games they put up 42, 32, 49, & 38...MSU D held them to 2 TDs below their average.

Honestly, if EWOO had MSUs schedule they'd probably be a top 25 team instead of on the verge of firing all their coaches.

Cats were far from perfect (seriously, a delay of game on the first snap?) but they rolled a better than average team. On the road. Again.

First, that wasn't a RB, it was the QB, #6. Second, there was a blatant hold on that play that was missed by the officiating crew. That missed call directly resulted in springing the QB. On the whole, Eastern got away with a ton of uncalled penalties yesterday. Grebe was held nearly every play and I don't think the player holding him was called a single time for holding. At least they correctly threw the flag on the illegal men downfield on the fake punt, as it was absolutely the correct call.

Wortham is a pretend QB. A QB only by position listed on the roster. He's their KR and a wildcat QB. He's as much a QB as Travis Jonsen was for the Cats.

[Long Time Cat]

How have the Cats done against EWU historically? Previous 10 games (too lazy to look back further) that Cats are 3-7. Ash was 0-4 Choate was 0-3 Vigen 3-0. Only one blowout win which was last year at home. Choate may have been the gris killer but Vigen is the Eag killer as he is now 4-0. I had a blast at the game and honestly never felt like we were going to lose. Enjoy the ride folks, enjoy the ride! I am!!

[SparkCat]

I do remember, prior to the 10 year mark, Ash winning one at home against the Eagles, I believe the year the Eagles won the National Championship, 2010 maybe. We whooped their asses. Then NDSU came to town for MSU Turnover Fest 2010.

[PapaG]

Solid win and nice job finishing strong after Eastern tied it up in the 3rd.

Still don’t like that 4th and goal play action pass while under center. Our group was calling it out as a bad idea before the snap.

[MTnative]

I do remember, prior to the 10 year mark, Ash winning one at home against the Eagles, I believe the year the Eagles won the National Championship, 2010 maybe. We whooped their asses. Then NDSU came to town for MSU Turnover Fest 2010.

30-7 MSU win. Taiwan Jones tried to hop over a defender in the first half and got body slammed on the play, literally got knocked out of the game.

I despise EWU like many others here. That was a good day.

[AFCAT]

How did Eastern fare against the best in the Big Sky?
EWU scored 49 against UM on the road lost by 3
EWU scored 38 against UCD at home lost by 10
EWU scored 28 against Idaho on the road lost by 10
EWU scored 28 against MSU at home lost by 14
Looks like they played them all tough and the Cats did better than any of the others. To me it's one more statistic that indicates the Cats are the best team in the conference.

Just a minor correction. That game against Montana was at home for Eastern.

[onceacat]

I'm old enough to remember when 14 points was considered 'not close'.

That's a cool story but the game was within 7 points until the last 3 or 4 minutes.

MSU had a 75%+ win probability for 45 minutes of the game. The game was close at 28-28 for about 7 seconds with a minute left in the 3rd, after that, EWU never had the ball with a chance to take the lead for the entire 4th.

This was NOT anything resembling a 'close' game.


https://www.espn.com/college-football/g ... washington

They had the ball several times with a chance to tie or take the lead.
Not sure what you're smoking but can I have some?

Take lead if they go for 2. And Tommy ended that on 1 play.

It was tied at 28 when Tommy scored. That put us up by 7.
We didn't go up by 14 until there was under 4 minutes left in the game.

So when did they have chance to take the lead? Unless they went for 2, they never had one.

Only if they went for 2, which ewu might've done had they scored a TD later in the 4th quarter. Teams that are 2-6 that have a chance against the #2 team often do things like that.

My point is just that the game was close the whole 2nd half until we went up by 14 with under 4 minutes to go. I find it strange that everyone is arguing with me about that. When the score is 35-28 for most of the 4th quarter, that's a close game in my opinion and i think in most people's opinion.

I find it strange too. What is the point of arguing a one score game through most of the 4th isn’t close?

THANK YOU! I thought I was living in the twilight zone for a while.

The standard I use in football for a close game is "EWU has the ball with a chance to take the lead". EWU wasn't ever in that position after the Bobcats first score.

A team that is trailing for the entire game (except for 14 seconds tied in the 3rd quarter) IS NOT a close game.

I think Cat fans in in a weird world where a game that the Cats dominated, but didn't put in the 2s and 3s is all of a sudden close.

We are living in a twilight zone for sure, but its not the people who are calling this a close game.

[MSU01]

Haha, funny argument here about what is and isn't a close game! Yesterday the score definitely got close in the third quarter but watching from home I never really felt like MSU was in serious danger of losing the game given how well they were moving the ball on offense. All they needed was a stop or two on defense and they got those in the fourth quarter.

[onceacat]

Well…the linebackers will have a lot of teachable moments from this game.

With that said, I don’t think this game was as bad as I originally thought. Sounds like the team prepared for the starting QB, and EWU played a lot different with Taylor in. A lot of QB run obviously. That’s a tough transition to make schematically that late in the game for a defense. By and large, most of the big EWU plays came via “trickery”, gadget stuff, lots of eye candy. Super reminiscent of our offense under Choate. Very difficult to defend when unprepared. And honestly, Eastern played darn well on offense and defense. Have to give them credit, they played really well, and we probably played our B game. We’re a darn good team.

Yeah, Ewoo had 3 rushes over 20 yards, one for 75. And the eagles still only averaged 5.8 ypc. Letting a RB bust out a 75 yarder is totally uncharacteristic of this defense.

EWU is a pretty decent team...losses to a really solid Drake team (6-1) SELA (5-3 all losses to ranked teams) UM, Davis, and Idaho, all top 10 Teams. In their home games they put up 42, 32, 49, & 38...MSU D held them to 2 TDs below their average.

Honestly, if EWOO had MSUs schedule they'd probably be a top 25 team instead of on the verge of firing all their coaches.

Cats were far from perfect (seriously, a delay of game on the first snap?) but they rolled a better than average team. On the road. Again.

First, that wasn't a RB, it was the QB, #6. Second, there was a blatant hold on that play that was missed by the officiating crew. That missed call directly resulted in springing the QB. On the whole, Eastern got away with a ton of uncalled penalties yesterday. Grebe was held nearly every play and I don't think the player holding him was called a single time for holding. At least they correctly threw the flag on the illegal men downfield on the fake punt, as it was absolutely the correct call.

OK, sure. I 100% agree that the Eags got away with a ton of holds. And the Cats STILL won by 2 scores. (The refs missed a pretty blatant block in the back on the fake punt too.)

And yet the Cats STILL led the entire game except for a brief 14 second tie in the 3rd.

The Cats played a bit sloppy, had to play against the refs, and STILL easily handled a really solid Eags team.

[gtapp]

I saw Davis had 5 carries? How did he look? Why only 5? I hope he did not get dinged up again.

[onceacat]

Haha, funny argument here about what is and isn't a close game! Yesterday the score definitely got close in the third quarter but watching from home I never really felt like MSU was in serious danger of losing the game given how well they were moving the ball on offense. All they needed was a stop or two on defense and they got those in the fourth quarter.

Cat fans have a weird chip on their shoulder with Ewoo...we should just embrace a really solid road win against a team thats a lot better than their record would indicate.

[MSU01]

I saw Davis had 5 carries? How did he look? Why only 5? I hope he did not get dinged up again.

Julius looked fine to me health wise, I think what we saw was MSU trying to work him back into game action while also not trying to fix something that isn't broken given how well Scottre and Adam have played this year.

[BelgradeBobcat]

Going against EWU's offense with their "running" quarterback may be beneficial. Looking ahead the team we might play that runs their quarterback as much as EWU did yesterday is South Dakota State. It's hard to stop because of the extra blocker that offense employs. It worked very well for us when we were using Troy Andersen, Travis Jonsen, and young Tommy Mellott at quarterback. It's really dangerous when the quarterback can also throw it like EWU's quarterback yesterday or SDSU's quarterback. Hopefully this film will be helpful to our defense going forward.

[SparkCat]

I saw Davis had 5 carries? How did he look? Why only 5? I hope he did not get dinged up again.

He did fairly well considering the times he was in everyone and their dog new he was going to get it. I imagine it was more so, get him live reps and build. Although I can think of a certain 4th and 1 where he would have been handy.

[BobcatDel]

I saw Davis had 5 carries? How did he look? Why only 5? I hope he did not get dinged up again.

He did fairly well considering the times he was in everyone and their dog new he was going to get it. I imagine it was more so, get him live reps and build. Although I can think of a certain 4th and 1 where he would have been handy.

Same observation on my part. Looked healthy….got a couple live reps….and was equally wondering why a Humphrey or Davis run was not called….we had played “bully ball” running all the way down the field and I guess we thought we could “outsmart em” but in hindsight Davis or Humphrey would have been better.