No Re-entry

[GoodTimesAllTheTime]

As others have said this isn't something that people are going to agree on here. I get it, it's the way we do. What I do find funny is that people act like this is a god given right. I have been to a lot of sporting events across college and pro sports at a lot of different venues in my life. I can literally count on one hand (and still have fingers left over) the number that allow people to leave and re-enter the venue. Like I said, I get it it is what has always been done here but to act like keeping people in the stadium all game is this crazy thing or that you should have a right to do this has always been comical to me.

Do any other FCS schools ban re-entry? That seems like a much better comparison than much larger venues, with more amenities and bathrooms and a greater financial interest in keeping people in the stadium and spending money.

[cat22[2010]]

As others have said this isn't something that people are going to agree on here. I get it, it's the way we do. What I do find funny is that people act like this is a god given right. I have been to a lot of sporting events across college and pro sports at a lot of different venues in my life. I can literally count on one hand (and still have fingers left over) the number that allow people to leave and re-enter the venue. Like I said, I get it it is what has always been done here but to act like keeping people in the stadium all game is this crazy thing or that you should have a right to do this has always been comical to me.

Do any other FCS schools ban re-entry? That seems like a much better comparison than much larger venues, with more amenities and bathrooms and a greater financial interest in keeping people in the stadium and spending money.

NDSU does for sure. I cannot recall if SDSU did or not when we were there last year. I think UND also does not allow re-entry.

[technoCat]

As others have said this isn't something that people are going to agree on here. I get it, it's the way we do. What I do find funny is that people act like this is a god given right. I have been to a lot of sporting events across college and pro sports at a lot of different venues in my life. I can literally count on one hand (and still have fingers left over) the number that allow people to leave and re-enter the venue. Like I said, I get it it is what has always been done here but to act like keeping people in the stadium all game is this crazy thing or that you should have a right to do this has always been comical to me.

Do any other FCS schools ban re-entry? That seems like a much better comparison than much larger venues, with more amenities and bathrooms and a greater financial interest in keeping people in the stadium and spending money.

NDSU does for sure. I cannot recall if SDSU did or not when we were there last year. I think UND also does not allow re-entry.

ISU doesn't allow it.

[cat22[2010]]

As others have said this isn't something that people are going to agree on here. I get it, it's the way we do. What I do find funny is that people act like this is a god given right. I have been to a lot of sporting events across college and pro sports at a lot of different venues in my life. I can literally count on one hand (and still have fingers left over) the number that allow people to leave and re-enter the venue. Like I said, I get it it is what has always been done here but to act like keeping people in the stadium all game is this crazy thing or that you should have a right to do this has always been comical to me.

Do any other FCS schools ban re-entry? That seems like a much better comparison than much larger venues, with more amenities and bathrooms and a greater financial interest in keeping people in the stadium and spending money.

NDSU does for sure. I cannot recall if SDSU did or not when we were there last year. I think UND also does not allow re-entry.

ISU doesn't allow it.

I also have been to Sac. State. I do not think they allowed re-entry ( that one I could be wrong on).

[kmax]

As others have said this isn't something that people are going to agree on here. I get it, it's the way we do. What I do find funny is that people act like this is a god given right. I have been to a lot of sporting events across college and pro sports at a lot of different venues in my life. I can literally count on one hand (and still have fingers left over) the number that allow people to leave and re-enter the venue. Like I said, I get it it is what has always been done here but to act like keeping people in the stadium all game is this crazy thing or that you should have a right to do this has always been comical to me.

Do any other FCS schools ban re-entry? That seems like a much better comparison than much larger venues, with more amenities and bathrooms and a greater financial interest in keeping people in the stadium and spending money.

NDSU does for sure. I cannot recall if SDSU did or not when we were there last year. I think UND also does not allow re-entry.

ISU doesn't allow it.

Interesting, ISU used to and was one of the very few I was counting that did. I haven't been to their barn in over 10 years though so makes sense that it has changed. That leaves me even more fingers when I count them up. I've been to 8 of the current Big Sky schools and (now with ISU news) only MSU and UM allow re-entry that I am aware of anyway.

[cats2506]

As others have said this isn't something that people are going to agree on here. I get it, it's the way we do. What I do find funny is that people act like this is a god given right. I have been to a lot of sporting events across college and pro sports at a lot of different venues in my life. I can literally count on one hand (and still have fingers left over) the number that allow people to leave and re-enter the venue. Like I said, I get it it is what has always been done here but to act like keeping people in the stadium all game is this crazy thing or that you should have a right to do this has always been comical to me.

Do any other FCS schools ban re-entry? That seems like a much better comparison than much larger venues, with more amenities and bathrooms and a greater financial interest in keeping people in the stadium and spending money.

NDSU does for sure. I cannot recall if SDSU did or not when we were there last year. I think UND also does not allow re-entry.

SDSU has a no re-entry policy, but sells beer inside the stadium that you can take to your seat.

[St George]

As others have said this isn't something that people are going to agree on here. I get it, it's the way we do. What I do find funny is that people act like this is a god given right. I have been to a lot of sporting events across college and pro sports at a lot of different venues in my life. I can literally count on one hand (and still have fingers left over) the number that allow people to leave and re-enter the venue. Like I said, I get it it is what has always been done here but to act like keeping people in the stadium all game is this crazy thing or that you should have a right to do this has always been comical to me.

Do any other FCS schools ban re-entry? That seems like a much better comparison than much larger venues, with more amenities and bathrooms and a greater financial interest in keeping people in the stadium and spending money.

NDSU does for sure. I cannot recall if SDSU did or not when we were there last year. I think UND also does not allow re-entry.

ISU doesn't allow it.

Interesting, ISU used to and was one of the very few I was counting that did. I haven't been to their barn in over 10 years though so makes sense that it has changed. That leaves me even more fingers when I count them up. I've been to 8 of the current Big Sky schools and (now with ISU news) only MSU and UM allow re-entry that I am aware of anyway.

How many that do not allow re-entry allow alcohol consumed in the stands? ISU allows it up until the 4th quarter. I think that is pretty standard after being to a couple Oregon State games in Corvallis.

[ilovethecats]

As others have said this isn't something that people are going to agree on here. I get it, it's the way we do. What I do find funny is that people act like this is a god given right. I have been to a lot of sporting events across college and pro sports at a lot of different venues in my life. I can literally count on one hand (and still have fingers left over) the number that allow people to leave and re-enter the venue. Like I said, I get it it is what has always been done here but to act like keeping people in the stadium all game is this crazy thing or that you should have a right to do this has always been comical to me.

Do any other FCS schools ban re-entry? That seems like a much better comparison than much larger venues, with more amenities and bathrooms and a greater financial interest in keeping people in the stadium and spending money.

NDSU does for sure. I cannot recall if SDSU did or not when we were there last year. I think UND also does not allow re-entry.

ISU doesn't allow it.

Interesting, ISU used to and was one of the very few I was counting that did. I haven't been to their barn in over 10 years though so makes sense that it has changed. That leaves me even more fingers when I count them up. I've been to 8 of the current Big Sky schools and (now with ISU news) only MSU and UM allow re-entry that I am aware of anyway.

And we're two of the best fanbases in the country and easily the best two in the Big Sky. I'm going to maintain our re-entry policy is a big reason for that.......

[allcat]

As others have said this isn't something that people are going to agree on here. I get it, it's the way we do. What I do find funny is that people act like this is a god given right. I have been to a lot of sporting events across college and pro sports at a lot of different venues in my life. I can literally count on one hand (and still have fingers left over) the number that allow people to leave and re-enter the venue. Like I said, I get it it is what has always been done here but to act like keeping people in the stadium all game is this crazy thing or that you should have a right to do this has always been comical to me.

Do any other FCS schools ban re-entry? That seems like a much better comparison than much larger venues, with more amenities and bathrooms and a greater financial interest in keeping people in the stadium and spending money.

Weber

[RK Cat]

Eliminating re-entry would be the biggest mistake MSU could make, and it's not about third-quarter crowd size or alcohol consumption.

One thing you see at MSU and UM that's rare at other college football stadiums is families. Two weeks ago at ISU, I barely saw any families. Why? It's challenging to keep kids seated for 3.5 hours straight. At some point, it's not worth the effort to bring a family to watch only part of the game. Consequently, families simply don't attend.

This Saturday, notice how many young families are experiencing Bobcat football, becoming lifelong fans, and growing our fan base. Parents won't bother bringing them if they have to struggle for three hours or if they're limited to watching only the first half. Instead, they'll stay home. But because they have re-entry as an option, the kids can go run around and burn some energy before they go back into the game.

I'm proud to say my kids (17,13) have never missed a game, but this is only possible because we have re-entry when they were young.

I expect that MSU will attempt to justify closing the stadium to re-entry at some point, and I can only hope that our fan base fights back.

As a side note: I saw more drunk obnoxious fans at the ISU game(some were MSU fans) than I have at any of our games, and you can buy and bring beer into the stands at ISU. So people just sit and get hammered.

[Lord Vigo]

I think the solution is better educated fans who make it a point to get back on time rather than restricting their choices in order to control their behavior. People pay a ton of money to go to Cat games and they put a lot into their tailgates. They don't deserve to have their options taken away because of a Jason Eck interview.

I've been in the Kibby Dome at halftime. It sucks.

[Lord Vigo]

I can remember Cat games where people were trying to be loud or do the wave when MSU was on offense. On Saturday, it was virtually silent when the Cats had the ball. The fan base has gotten smarter about how to behave and create the biggest advantage possible. I'm guessing that if there were announcements regarding getting back on time to create a homefield advantage in Q3, people would respond to it-- at least in competitive games.

[BleedingBLue]

If teams were scoring more in the 3Q than any other quarter of the game, you'd have a point. But our box scores from the past 3 years say otherwise.

2024: https://msubobcats.com/sports/football/schedule/2024
2023: https://msubobcats.com/sports/football/schedule/2023
2022: https://msubobcats.com/sports/football/schedule/2022

Most of the scoring incidences happen either in blowouts, or after MSU had already scored in the 3Q. It does not matter, now let us drink and socialize in peace.

Long live re-entry

Agreed, and I say this as a fan who never leaves the stadium from kickoff until the final whistle no matter how lopsided the score. It simply doesn't matter. Enjoy the game how you want and mind your own business about how others enjoy it. What's next, fan police roving through the crowd chastising fans who don't make noise on defensive third downs or clap along with the fight song after a touchdown?

I guess Eck and Vigen have no idea what they are talking about. You should reach out to them and let them know.

Here's the result of the opening drive of the second half for all MSU home games since 2021:

2021 vs Drake: Drake Punt
2021 vs San Diego: MSU TD
2021 vs UNC: UNC Punt
2021 vs Poly: MSU missed FG
2021 vs ISU: ISU FG
2021 vs Idaho: MSU turnover on downs
2021 vs UTM: MSU FG
2021 vs SDSU: SDSU Punt

2022 vs McNeese: MSU FG
2022 vs Morehead: Morehead Punt
2022 vs UCD: MSU Punt
2022 vs ISU: MSU Punt
2022 vs Weber: Weber safety on bad punt snap
2022 vs UM: UM Punt
2022 vs Weber: MSU FG
2022 vs W&M: MSU TD

2023 vs Utah Tech: UTU Punt
2023 vs Stetson: MSU Fumble
2023 vs PSU: PSU Punt
2023 vs Poly: Poly missed FG
2023 vs NAU: NAU Punt
2023 vs EWU: MSU TD
2023 vs NDSU: NDSU TD

2024 vs Maine: MSU Fumble
2024 vs Mercyhurst: Mercyhurst Punt
2024 vs UNC: MSU Punt

26 home games, 13 of those drives MSU had the ball, and the 13 opponent drives have resulted in 10 punts, 1 missed FG, and 2 scoring drives for 10 total points. 0.38 points per game. Vigen and Eck can do their jobs without me contacting them but game results don't suggest it matters.

This is comical. You have both Eck and Vigen on record talking about the impact. Yet you somehow feel more knowledgeable than them. Other coaches have stated the same thing. It actually affects whether teams defer or accept at the beginning of the game.

While having half the stadium gone clearly makes it easier for an opponent to operate, it does not take away the fact that our team is flat out good. We should be successful all the time. But to try and defend that 11,000 fans is just as effective as 22,000 fans is stupid. And to not forego a 10 minute social break to provide the BEST environment for your team is mind boggling to me.

To be fair, a lot of things seem to boggle your mind

[Cataholic]

I didn’t attend the Quarterback Club meeting this Monday. I did just receive an email from QBC with a special message which is not normal. The email brought me to the QBC website with a 30 second video clip of Coach Vigen. It was a message that this is a big game and we need everyone to be back in your seats before the 3rd quarter starts. He asked to spread the word. His comment was that crowds right after halftime can feel like the ICCU dome with nobody in their seats.

When the head coach asks for something to help the team, fans are usually quick to react. I think this is small ask.

[Cataholic]

I think the solution is better educated fans who make it a point to get back on time rather than restricting their choices in order to control their behavior. People pay a ton of money to go to Cat games and they put a lot into their tailgates. They don't deserve to have their options taken away because of a Jason Eck interview.

I've been in the Kibby Dome at halftime. It sucks.

People pay a lot of money at other stadiums as well. Why do you think MSU fans have the “right” for re-entry when it is not the industry norm?

[Lord Vigo]

I think the solution is better educated fans who make it a point to get back on time rather than restricting their choices in order to control their behavior. People pay a ton of money to go to Cat games and they put a lot into their tailgates. They don't deserve to have their options taken away because of a Jason Eck interview.

I've been in the Kibby Dome at halftime. It sucks.

People pay a lot of money at other stadiums as well. Why do you think MSU fans have the “right” for re-entry when it is not the industry norm?

I don't believe I said they have a right to re-entry; it's just the current rule. My opinion is that it should remain the rule to maintain a great fan experience for people who shell out tons of money to support the team and enjoy the product. Worsening the fan experience in an effort to enhance an already considerable homefield advantage is the tail wagging the dog.

[GoldstoneCat]

I didn’t attend the Quarterback Club meeting this Monday. I did just receive an email from QBC with a special message which is not normal. The email brought me to the QBC website with a 30 second video clip of Coach Vigen. It was a message that this is a big game and we need everyone to be back in your seats before the 3rd quarter starts. He asked to spread the word. His comment was that crowds right after halftime can feel like the ICCU dome with nobody in their seats.

When the head coach asks for something to help the team, fans are usually quick to react. I think this is small ask.

Yup saw this too. Bottom line is get our asses back in by kickoff.

[wbtfg]

I didn’t attend the Quarterback Club meeting this Monday. I did just receive an email from QBC with a special message which is not normal. The email brought me to the QBC website with a 30 second video clip of Coach Vigen. It was a message that this is a big game and we need everyone to be back in your seats before the 3rd quarter starts. He asked to spread the word. His comment was that crowds right after halftime can feel like the ICCU dome with nobody in their seats.

When the head coach asks for something to help the team, fans are usually quick to react. I think this is small ask.

Yup saw this too. Bottom line is get our asses back in by kickoff.

Yep. Gonna have to drink the halftime beers from the bottom of the can this weekend.

[cat22[2010]]

I didn’t attend the Quarterback Club meeting this Monday. I did just receive an email from QBC with a special message which is not normal. The email brought me to the QBC website with a 30 second video clip of Coach Vigen. It was a message that this is a big game and we need everyone to be back in your seats before the 3rd quarter starts. He asked to spread the word. His comment was that crowds right after halftime can feel like the ICCU dome with nobody in their seats.

When the head coach asks for something to help the team, fans are usually quick to react. I think this is small ask.

That must have been stated after the BQC meeting ended ( I am a out of chapter member) but just saw that as well.

[GoldstoneCat]

I didn’t attend the Quarterback Club meeting this Monday. I did just receive an email from QBC with a special message which is not normal. The email brought me to the QBC website with a 30 second video clip of Coach Vigen. It was a message that this is a big game and we need everyone to be back in your seats before the 3rd quarter starts. He asked to spread the word. His comment was that crowds right after halftime can feel like the ICCU dome with nobody in their seats.

When the head coach asks for something to help the team, fans are usually quick to react. I think this is small ask.

Yup saw this too. Bottom line is get our asses back in by kickoff.

Yep. Gonna have to drink the halftime beers from the bottom of the can this weekend.

Yep bring a jack knife. It'll be like sophomore year all over again.