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Re: Looking forward........

Post by onceacat » Mon Sep 02, 2024 9:31 pm

tetoncat wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 8:33 pm
Common Cat wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 8:19 pm
CodyCat wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 5:41 pm
Common Cat wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 4:14 pm
4KornerKat wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 3:35 pm
Common Cat wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 3:12 pm
catatac wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 2:17 pm
RobertSebastianCat-81 wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 1:10 pm
Nice summary. You said a lot that I was thinking.

I think it was 1st down and 1 yard for goal when Tommy got hurt. We sure could have got it in having four chances using other personnel.

I was listening to the friz game as well and they almost lost to Mo State. They were well-matched teams. And Mo State got called for 5 false starts because of the home town noise which affected their ability to score, one was on their final drive. Glad to see this vulnerability in the friz. I think they will go down vs. Western Carolina!
First I think they lose to UND, not sure about Western Carolina. I'm thinking they are about even with them but the ten or so points that stadium give them will probably be the difference. I think going to UND to face a jacked up crowd and a good, tough team, with a good defense, is a bigger challenge at this point. Those Griz QBs will make some mistakes and it will probably cost them the game.
Are you stating that you think Western Carolina is as good as the griz?
I'd argue that point. I think that stadium is good for 7-10 points, if they were playing at WCU I think it might be a tossup. Look how well WCU played NC State for 3 quarters
UND who knows. They can beat anyone or lose to anyone depending on the week
Agreed to say washington/griz stadium is good for 7-10 pts, maybe even 14. But to say WCU is as good as the griz is just crazy talk. Go ahead and look at the massey ratings, or any metric. Hanging with NC State for one game does not qualify them for elite FCS status.
What qualifies the gris as elite?
Maybe the fact they went to the National Championship last year as well as about 30 years of tradition? Take off the blue colored glasses for a sec. Look, I hate the griz as much as anyone here, but you’re being obtuse.
Going to the championship does not automatically make the next year an elite team. They lost a ton of defensive studs. They do have experience and seniors back but will they be at level of last year. They were not an elite offense last year and lost the key piece at qb that turned their season around. That was my earlier post about metrics. With the portal I don't think we know top teams for 4 or 5 weeks. If we are just basing it off last year and tradition why do it.
Yes it does. Especially when you've got a history like they do.

Stop being obtuse.

The transfer portal doesnt change anything.



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Re: Looking forward........

Post by tetoncat » Mon Sep 02, 2024 10:10 pm

onceacat wrote:
Mon Sep 02, 2024 9:31 pm
tetoncat wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 8:33 pm
Common Cat wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 8:19 pm
CodyCat wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 5:41 pm
Common Cat wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 4:14 pm
4KornerKat wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 3:35 pm
Common Cat wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 3:12 pm
catatac wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 2:17 pm
RobertSebastianCat-81 wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 1:10 pm
Nice summary. You said a lot that I was thinking.

I think it was 1st down and 1 yard for goal when Tommy got hurt. We sure could have got it in having four chances using other personnel.

I was listening to the friz game as well and they almost lost to Mo State. They were well-matched teams. And Mo State got called for 5 false starts because of the home town noise which affected their ability to score, one was on their final drive. Glad to see this vulnerability in the friz. I think they will go down vs. Western Carolina!
First I think they lose to UND, not sure about Western Carolina. I'm thinking they are about even with them but the ten or so points that stadium give them will probably be the difference. I think going to UND to face a jacked up crowd and a good, tough team, with a good defense, is a bigger challenge at this point. Those Griz QBs will make some mistakes and it will probably cost them the game.
Are you stating that you think Western Carolina is as good as the griz?
I'd argue that point. I think that stadium is good for 7-10 points, if they were playing at WCU I think it might be a tossup. Look how well WCU played NC State for 3 quarters
UND who knows. They can beat anyone or lose to anyone depending on the week
Agreed to say washington/griz stadium is good for 7-10 pts, maybe even 14. But to say WCU is as good as the griz is just crazy talk. Go ahead and look at the massey ratings, or any metric. Hanging with NC State for one game does not qualify them for elite FCS status.
What qualifies the gris as elite?
Maybe the fact they went to the National Championship last year as well as about 30 years of tradition? Take off the blue colored glasses for a sec. Look, I hate the griz as much as anyone here, but you’re being obtuse.
Going to the championship does not automatically make the next year an elite team. They lost a ton of defensive studs. They do have experience and seniors back but will they be at level of last year. They were not an elite offense last year and lost the key piece at qb that turned their season around. That was my earlier post about metrics. With the portal I don't think we know top teams for 4 or 5 weeks. If we are just basing it off last year and tradition why do it.
Yes it does. Especially when you've got a history like they do.

Stop being obtuse.

The transfer portal doesnt change anything.
Sorry but no it doesn't. Might make you expected to be good but elite comes from players returning. TCU played in championship 1 year and were not very good the next. Cats played in it in a year it took a run at end were elite at end but not most off season. Have not been back to that level since. Griz may prove me wrong but their offense was not elite and their D list their 2 best players.


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Re: Looking forward........

Post by BelligerentBobcat » Mon Sep 02, 2024 10:33 pm

onceacat wrote:
Mon Sep 02, 2024 9:31 pm
tetoncat wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 8:33 pm
Common Cat wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 8:19 pm
CodyCat wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 5:41 pm
Common Cat wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 4:14 pm
4KornerKat wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 3:35 pm
Common Cat wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 3:12 pm
catatac wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 2:17 pm
RobertSebastianCat-81 wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 1:10 pm
Nice summary. You said a lot that I was thinking.

I think it was 1st down and 1 yard for goal when Tommy got hurt. We sure could have got it in having four chances using other personnel.

I was listening to the friz game as well and they almost lost to Mo State. They were well-matched teams. And Mo State got called for 5 false starts because of the home town noise which affected their ability to score, one was on their final drive. Glad to see this vulnerability in the friz. I think they will go down vs. Western Carolina!
First I think they lose to UND, not sure about Western Carolina. I'm thinking they are about even with them but the ten or so points that stadium give them will probably be the difference. I think going to UND to face a jacked up crowd and a good, tough team, with a good defense, is a bigger challenge at this point. Those Griz QBs will make some mistakes and it will probably cost them the game.
Are you stating that you think Western Carolina is as good as the griz?
I'd argue that point. I think that stadium is good for 7-10 points, if they were playing at WCU I think it might be a tossup. Look how well WCU played NC State for 3 quarters
UND who knows. They can beat anyone or lose to anyone depending on the week
Agreed to say washington/griz stadium is good for 7-10 pts, maybe even 14. But to say WCU is as good as the griz is just crazy talk. Go ahead and look at the massey ratings, or any metric. Hanging with NC State for one game does not qualify them for elite FCS status.
What qualifies the gris as elite?
Maybe the fact they went to the National Championship last year as well as about 30 years of tradition? Take off the blue colored glasses for a sec. Look, I hate the griz as much as anyone here, but you’re being obtuse.
Going to the championship does not automatically make the next year an elite team. They lost a ton of defensive studs. They do have experience and seniors back but will they be at level of last year. They were not an elite offense last year and lost the key piece at qb that turned their season around. That was my earlier post about metrics. With the portal I don't think we know top teams for 4 or 5 weeks. If we are just basing it off last year and tradition why do it.
Yes it does. Especially when you've got a history like they do.

Stop being obtuse.

The transfer portal doesnt change anything.
There is a difference between an elite program, and an elite team.

UM is an elite program. They are not always an elite team.



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Re: Looking forward........

Post by tdub » Tue Sep 03, 2024 7:10 am

Good luck to everyone trying to find a common definition of elite.


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Re: Looking forward........

Post by Bobcat Sig » Tue Sep 03, 2024 8:30 am

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Good luck to everyone trying to find a common definition of elite.
We might as well argue semantics next… 😆


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Re: Looking forward........

Post by technoCat » Tue Sep 03, 2024 9:17 am

tdub wrote:
Tue Sep 03, 2024 7:10 am
Good luck to everyone trying to find a common definition of elite.
I would think the clear top 8-10 teams out of 160 or whatever it is in FCS, could be clearly defined as elite and they are definitely there.


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Re: Looking forward........

Post by CodyCat » Tue Sep 03, 2024 9:26 am

I think the only elite teams are the DSU's. MSU maybe with their recent success of a trip to Frisco and a couple other semifinal games. But, I dont think that qualifies you as elite.


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Re: Looking forward........

Post by TomCat88 » Tue Sep 03, 2024 11:47 am

technoCat wrote:
Tue Sep 03, 2024 9:17 am
tdub wrote:
Tue Sep 03, 2024 7:10 am
Good luck to everyone trying to find a common definition of elite.
I would think the clear top 8-10 teams out of 160 or whatever it is in FCS, could be clearly defined as elite and they are definitely there.
It gets weird when you almost know that one team is going to win it. Such as pretty much the last 10-12 years. If you took the 8-10 elite teams last year there was one that made the other 7-9 look average.


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Re: Looking forward........

Post by 4KornerKat » Sat Sep 21, 2024 6:30 pm

Common Cat wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 4:14 pm
4KornerKat wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 3:35 pm
Common Cat wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 3:12 pm
catatac wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 2:17 pm
RobertSebastianCat-81 wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 1:10 pm
Nice summary. You said a lot that I was thinking.

I think it was 1st down and 1 yard for goal when Tommy got hurt. We sure could have got it in having four chances using other personnel.

I was listening to the friz game as well and they almost lost to Mo State. They were well-matched teams. And Mo State got called for 5 false starts because of the home town noise which affected their ability to score, one was on their final drive. Glad to see this vulnerability in the friz. I think they will go down vs. Western Carolina!
First I think they lose to UND, not sure about Western Carolina. I'm thinking they are about even with them but the ten or so points that stadium give them will probably be the difference. I think going to UND to face a jacked up crowd and a good, tough team, with a good defense, is a bigger challenge at this point. Those Griz QBs will make some mistakes and it will probably cost them the game.
Are you stating that you think Western Carolina is as good as the griz?
I'd argue that point. I think that stadium is good for 7-10 points, if they were playing at WCU I think it might be a tossup. Look how well WCU played NC State for 3 quarters
UND who knows. They can beat anyone or lose to anyone depending on the week
Agreed to say washington/griz stadium is good for 7-10 pts, maybe even 14. But to say WCU is as good as the griz is just crazy talk. Go ahead and look at the massey ratings, or any metric. Hanging with NC State for one game does not qualify them for elite FCS status.
Seems like maybe it wasn't crazy talk?



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Re: Looking forward........

Post by Common Cat » Sat Sep 21, 2024 8:22 pm

4KornerKat wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2024 6:30 pm
Common Cat wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 4:14 pm
4KornerKat wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 3:35 pm
Common Cat wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 3:12 pm
catatac wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 2:17 pm
RobertSebastianCat-81 wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 1:10 pm
Nice summary. You said a lot that I was thinking.

I think it was 1st down and 1 yard for goal when Tommy got hurt. We sure could have got it in having four chances using other personnel.

I was listening to the friz game as well and they almost lost to Mo State. They were well-matched teams. And Mo State got called for 5 false starts because of the home town noise which affected their ability to score, one was on their final drive. Glad to see this vulnerability in the friz. I think they will go down vs. Western Carolina!
First I think they lose to UND, not sure about Western Carolina. I'm thinking they are about even with them but the ten or so points that stadium give them will probably be the difference. I think going to UND to face a jacked up crowd and a good, tough team, with a good defense, is a bigger challenge at this point. Those Griz QBs will make some mistakes and it will probably cost them the game.
Are you stating that you think Western Carolina is as good as the griz?
I'd argue that point. I think that stadium is good for 7-10 points, if they were playing at WCU I think it might be a tossup. Look how well WCU played NC State for 3 quarters
UND who knows. They can beat anyone or lose to anyone depending on the week
Agreed to say washington/griz stadium is good for 7-10 pts, maybe even 14. But to say WCU is as good as the griz is just crazy talk. Go ahead and look at the massey ratings, or any metric. Hanging with NC State for one game does not qualify them for elite FCS status.
Seems like maybe it wasn't crazy talk?
Bravo dude.


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Re: Looking forward........

Post by iaafan » Sun Sep 22, 2024 9:35 am

Common Cat wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2024 8:22 pm
4KornerKat wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2024 6:30 pm
Common Cat wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 4:14 pm
4KornerKat wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 3:35 pm
Common Cat wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 3:12 pm
catatac wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 2:17 pm
RobertSebastianCat-81 wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 1:10 pm
Nice summary. You said a lot that I was thinking.

I think it was 1st down and 1 yard for goal when Tommy got hurt. We sure could have got it in having four chances using other personnel.

I was listening to the friz game as well and they almost lost to Mo State. They were well-matched teams. And Mo State got called for 5 false starts because of the home town noise which affected their ability to score, one was on their final drive. Glad to see this vulnerability in the friz. I think they will go down vs. Western Carolina!
First I think they lose to UND, not sure about Western Carolina. I'm thinking they are about even with them but the ten or so points that stadium give them will probably be the difference. I think going to UND to face a jacked up crowd and a good, tough team, with a good defense, is a bigger challenge at this point. Those Griz QBs will make some mistakes and it will probably cost them the game.
Are you stating that you think Western Carolina is as good as the griz?
I'd argue that point. I think that stadium is good for 7-10 points, if they were playing at WCU I think it might be a tossup. Look how well WCU played NC State for 3 quarters
UND who knows. They can beat anyone or lose to anyone depending on the week
Agreed to say washington/griz stadium is good for 7-10 pts, maybe even 14. But to say WCU is as good as the griz is just crazy talk. Go ahead and look at the massey ratings, or any metric. Hanging with NC State for one game does not qualify them for elite FCS status.
Seems like maybe it wasn't crazy talk?
Bravo dude.
Is this a sincere “bravo dude”?

The Gris don’t look very good right now. Other than a hot streak (and almost every team has one at some point) last year from Idaho to Delaware (6 games) the Gris haven’t looked good. From the fifth game of 2022 they’ve only won 10 games by more than 11 points. During that time they’re just 21-8. Losses to NAU, UND. Take out the hot streak and it’s 15-8.



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Re: Looking forward........

Post by Bobcatsinmso » Sun Sep 22, 2024 9:58 am

iaafan wrote:
Sun Sep 22, 2024 9:35 am
Common Cat wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2024 8:22 pm
4KornerKat wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2024 6:30 pm
Common Cat wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 4:14 pm
4KornerKat wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 3:35 pm
Common Cat wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 3:12 pm
catatac wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 2:17 pm
RobertSebastianCat-81 wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 1:10 pm
Nice summary. You said a lot that I was thinking.

I think it was 1st down and 1 yard for goal when Tommy got hurt. We sure could have got it in having four chances using other personnel.

I was listening to the friz game as well and they almost lost to Mo State. They were well-matched teams. And Mo State got called for 5 false starts because of the home town noise which affected their ability to score, one was on their final drive. Glad to see this vulnerability in the friz. I think they will go down vs. Western Carolina!
First I think they lose to UND, not sure about Western Carolina. I'm thinking they are about even with them but the ten or so points that stadium give them will probably be the difference. I think going to UND to face a jacked up crowd and a good, tough team, with a good defense, is a bigger challenge at this point. Those Griz QBs will make some mistakes and it will probably cost them the game.
Are you stating that you think Western Carolina is as good as the griz?
I'd argue that point. I think that stadium is good for 7-10 points, if they were playing at WCU I think it might be a tossup. Look how well WCU played NC State for 3 quarters
UND who knows. They can beat anyone or lose to anyone depending on the week
Agreed to say washington/griz stadium is good for 7-10 pts, maybe even 14. But to say WCU is as good as the griz is just crazy talk. Go ahead and look at the massey ratings, or any metric. Hanging with NC State for one game does not qualify them for elite FCS status.
Seems like maybe it wasn't crazy talk?
Bravo dude.
Is this a sincere “bravo dude”?

The Gris don’t look very good right now. Other than a hot streak (and almost every team has one at some point) last year from Idaho to Delaware (6 games) the Gris haven’t looked good. From the fifth game of 2022 they’ve only won 10 games by more than 11 points. During that time they’re just 21-8. Losses to NAU, UND. Take out the hot streak and it’s 15-8.
I was at the giz game yesterday, Western C. was equal to the dark pink team. 5 false starts and I think 4 unsportsmanlike calls 3 of which were on the bench and coach kind of did them in and that is the norm for teams playing in missoula. 3 roughing the passer calls, (including a targeting call with ejection) on Giz showed their defensive strategy. Carolina put up almost 500 yards of offense on them. Home field advantage won that game.
Huge props to Cole Gonzales who continued to play with injured left arm, that guy was bulletproof and one hell of a gamer.


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Re: Looking forward........

Post by coloradocat » Sun Sep 22, 2024 10:02 am

Bobcatsinmso wrote:
Sun Sep 22, 2024 9:58 am
iaafan wrote:
Sun Sep 22, 2024 9:35 am
Common Cat wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2024 8:22 pm
4KornerKat wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2024 6:30 pm
Common Cat wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 4:14 pm
4KornerKat wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 3:35 pm
Common Cat wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 3:12 pm
catatac wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 2:17 pm
RobertSebastianCat-81 wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 1:10 pm
Nice summary. You said a lot that I was thinking.

I think it was 1st down and 1 yard for goal when Tommy got hurt. We sure could have got it in having four chances using other personnel.

I was listening to the friz game as well and they almost lost to Mo State. They were well-matched teams. And Mo State got called for 5 false starts because of the home town noise which affected their ability to score, one was on their final drive. Glad to see this vulnerability in the friz. I think they will go down vs. Western Carolina!
First I think they lose to UND, not sure about Western Carolina. I'm thinking they are about even with them but the ten or so points that stadium give them will probably be the difference. I think going to UND to face a jacked up crowd and a good, tough team, with a good defense, is a bigger challenge at this point. Those Griz QBs will make some mistakes and it will probably cost them the game.
Are you stating that you think Western Carolina is as good as the griz?
I'd argue that point. I think that stadium is good for 7-10 points, if they were playing at WCU I think it might be a tossup. Look how well WCU played NC State for 3 quarters
UND who knows. They can beat anyone or lose to anyone depending on the week
Agreed to say washington/griz stadium is good for 7-10 pts, maybe even 14. But to say WCU is as good as the griz is just crazy talk. Go ahead and look at the massey ratings, or any metric. Hanging with NC State for one game does not qualify them for elite FCS status.
Seems like maybe it wasn't crazy talk?
Bravo dude.
Is this a sincere “bravo dude”?

The Gris don’t look very good right now. Other than a hot streak (and almost every team has one at some point) last year from Idaho to Delaware (6 games) the Gris haven’t looked good. From the fifth game of 2022 they’ve only won 10 games by more than 11 points. During that time they’re just 21-8. Losses to NAU, UND. Take out the hot streak and it’s 15-8.
I was at the giz game yesterday, Western C. was equal to the dark pink team. 5 false starts and I think 4 unsportsmanlike calls 3 of which were on the bench and coach kind of did them in and that is the norm for teams playing in missoula. 3 roughing the passer calls, (including a targeting call with ejection) on Giz showed their defensive strategy. Carolina put up almost 500 yards of offense on them. Home field advantage won that game.
Huge props to Cole Gonzales who continued to play with injured left arm, that guy was bulletproof and one hell of a gamer.
The problem is that if home field advantage gives them just enough to win, it's still a win and gets them one step closer to a seed in the playoffs which just means more home games with that advantage (especially against east coast teams). They might not be a great team but if their opponents can't handle the environment that makes up for a lot of deficiencies.


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Re: Looking forward........

Post by Common Cat » Sun Sep 22, 2024 10:25 am

coloradocat wrote:
Sun Sep 22, 2024 10:02 am
Bobcatsinmso wrote:
Sun Sep 22, 2024 9:58 am
iaafan wrote:
Sun Sep 22, 2024 9:35 am
Common Cat wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2024 8:22 pm
4KornerKat wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2024 6:30 pm
Common Cat wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 4:14 pm
4KornerKat wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 3:35 pm
Common Cat wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 3:12 pm
catatac wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 2:17 pm
RobertSebastianCat-81 wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 1:10 pm
Nice summary. You said a lot that I was thinking.

I think it was 1st down and 1 yard for goal when Tommy got hurt. We sure could have got it in having four chances using other personnel.

I was listening to the friz game as well and they almost lost to Mo State. They were well-matched teams. And Mo State got called for 5 false starts because of the home town noise which affected their ability to score, one was on their final drive. Glad to see this vulnerability in the friz. I think they will go down vs. Western Carolina!
First I think they lose to UND, not sure about Western Carolina. I'm thinking they are about even with them but the ten or so points that stadium give them will probably be the difference. I think going to UND to face a jacked up crowd and a good, tough team, with a good defense, is a bigger challenge at this point. Those Griz QBs will make some mistakes and it will probably cost them the game.
Are you stating that you think Western Carolina is as good as the griz?
I'd argue that point. I think that stadium is good for 7-10 points, if they were playing at WCU I think it might be a tossup. Look how well WCU played NC State for 3 quarters
UND who knows. They can beat anyone or lose to anyone depending on the week
Agreed to say washington/griz stadium is good for 7-10 pts, maybe even 14. But to say WCU is as good as the griz is just crazy talk. Go ahead and look at the massey ratings, or any metric. Hanging with NC State for one game does not qualify them for elite FCS status.
Seems like maybe it wasn't crazy talk?
Bravo dude.
Is this a sincere “bravo dude”?

The Gris don’t look very good right now. Other than a hot streak (and almost every team has one at some point) last year from Idaho to Delaware (6 games) the Gris haven’t looked good. From the fifth game of 2022 they’ve only won 10 games by more than 11 points. During that time they’re just 21-8. Losses to NAU, UND. Take out the hot streak and it’s 15-8.
I was at the giz game yesterday, Western C. was equal to the dark pink team. 5 false starts and I think 4 unsportsmanlike calls 3 of which were on the bench and coach kind of did them in and that is the norm for teams playing in missoula. 3 roughing the passer calls, (including a targeting call with ejection) on Giz showed their defensive strategy. Carolina put up almost 500 yards of offense on them. Home field advantage won that game.
Huge props to Cole Gonzales who continued to play with injured left arm, that guy was bulletproof and one hell of a gamer.
The problem is that if home field advantage gives them just enough to win, it's still a win and gets them one step closer to a seed in the playoffs which just means more home games with that advantage (especially against east coast teams). They might not be a great team but if their opponents can't handle the environment that makes up for a lot of deficiencies.
I might have been a bit snarky with my comment so apologies to @4KornerKat . WCU certainly played well. They had a chance to win and didn’t.


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Re: Looking forward........

Post by 4KornerKat » Sun Sep 22, 2024 11:05 am

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First I think they lose to UND, not sure about Western Carolina. I'm thinking they are about even with them but the ten or so points that stadium give them will probably be the difference. I think going to UND to face a jacked up crowd and a good, tough team, with a good defense, is a bigger challenge at this point. Those Griz QBs will make some mistakes and it will probably cost them the game.
Are you stating that you think Western Carolina is as good as the griz?
I'd argue that point. I think that stadium is good for 7-10 points, if they were playing at WCU I think it might be a tossup. Look how well WCU played NC State for 3 quarters
UND who knows. They can beat anyone or lose to anyone depending on the week
Agreed to say washington/griz stadium is good for 7-10 pts, maybe even 14. But to say WCU is as good as the griz is just crazy talk. Go ahead and look at the massey ratings, or any metric. Hanging with NC State for one game does not qualify them for elite FCS status.
Seems like maybe it wasn't crazy talk?
Bravo dude.
Is this a sincere “bravo dude”?

The Gris don’t look very good right now. Other than a hot streak (and almost every team has one at some point) last year from Idaho to Delaware (6 games) the Gris haven’t looked good. From the fifth game of 2022 they’ve only won 10 games by more than 11 points. During that time they’re just 21-8. Losses to NAU, UND. Take out the hot streak and it’s 15-8.
I was at the giz game yesterday, Western C. was equal to the dark pink team. 5 false starts and I think 4 unsportsmanlike calls 3 of which were on the bench and coach kind of did them in and that is the norm for teams playing in missoula. 3 roughing the passer calls, (including a targeting call with ejection) on Giz showed their defensive strategy. Carolina put up almost 500 yards of offense on them. Home field advantage won that game.
Huge props to Cole Gonzales who continued to play with injured left arm, that guy was bulletproof and one hell of a gamer.
The problem is that if home field advantage gives them just enough to win, it's still a win and gets them one step closer to a seed in the playoffs which just means more home games with that advantage (especially against east coast teams). They might not be a great team but if their opponents can't handle the environment that makes up for a lot of deficiencies.
I might have been a bit snarky with my comment so apologies to @4KornerKat . WCU certainly played well. They had a chance to win and didn’t.
No worries, as others mentioned I just think that the gris still aren't that good, and maybe the gap between the top of the Socon and CAA isn't quite as big from the middle of the big sky as people make it out to be. WCU has a stud QB, and as others mentioned gris strategy when they face a good quarterback is to hit him every play whether it's late or not. Frustrating to watch for sure.



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Re: Looking forward........

Post by BelligerentBobcat » Sun Sep 22, 2024 12:12 pm

The Griz will be a tough game. They have fast, aggressive, defense. Riley Wilson is good, although a bit dirty. Has some Strahm to his game. Eli Gilman might be the best RB in the conference. They have 3 good receivers and two QB’s that can extend plays with their legs. I think Fife is better than Ah Yat right now, but if either of them catch fire, they can be dangerous. Won’t be an easy game by any means.



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Re: Looking forward........

Post by The MICKSTER » Wed Oct 09, 2024 1:55 pm

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Mon Aug 26, 2024 10:19 am
Well, we couldn’t have won in more dramatic fashion and I suppose if we’d have won by 3 scores that would help is in the polls, but an FBS win (last one was 18 yrs ago…..2006 vs Colorado) is something to celebrate!

I’ve mentioned this before but……it is amazing to me how important a week 0 game on Aug 24th is and how it can impact who will be playing for the FCS title game on Monday Jan 6th. Let’s face it, the chances of making it to the championship is greatly increased if your team can be at home for a semi-final game……which most likely means ending the season with a top 2 seed. Getting a win against an FBS team (granted not a P5 team but an FBS team none the less) to start the season sure helps that cause. Two of the three teams currently ranked above us both have FBS opponents this coming week. SDSU plays at Oklahoma State on Saturday (ESPN+) and NDSU plays on TH night vs Deon Sanders’ Colorado Buffs (ESPN)….both FBS teams are currently 9.5 point favorites. The third ranked FCS team doesn’t play an FBS team this season and has what I would call the easiest schedule you could hope for while being a member of the BSC. Their toughest game by far will be playing us in Bozeman on Nov 23rd, the next toughest would be playing @ the 5th ranked MVFC team UND or hosting UCD(4th ranked BSC)…. 5 of their first 7 games are at home.

Below is a summary of some of the more ‘difficult’ games each of the top 4 FCS teams have this year………
#1 SDSU; Aug 31@Oklahoma St, Oct 19@NDSU, Oct 26 vs S Dakota, Nov 9@N Dakota, Nov 16 vs S Ill.
#2 NDSU; Aug 29@Colorado, Oct 5 vs N Dakota, Oct 12@ S Ill, Oct 19 vs NDSU, Nov 23@S Dakota
#3 um; Sep 7@N Dakota (picked 5th in MVFC), Nov 9 vs UCDavis, Nov 23@MSU
#4 MSU; Aug 24th@UNM(W), Oct 12vs Idaho, Nov 16@UCDavis, Nov 23 vs um

I don’t want to get too confident, but it appears to me that we won’t have a challenging game until Oct 12 when we host Idaho. I think we’ll be 6-0 then. Also, I think/hope that Davis, Reed, Perkins, & Polidore will be recovered by then. I don’t think that either SDSU & NDSU will be able to pull off their FBS upsets, so they should each have 1 loss…..but that is far from certain. The gris on the other hand would have to lose to the 5th ranked MVFC team for them to have had a loss by Oct 12…..I don’t think that will happen but not certain about that either. Assuming both SDSU & NDSU lose this week……will we move up to 2nd? That depends on IF & how they lose. Also, just because we might be ranked #2 at the end of the season, doesn’t mean the committee will see it that way……i.e. 2022 season.

1 game behind us, 11 regular season games in front of us (which includes a minimum of 3 challenging games), but we just cleared maybe our biggest hurdle of the regular season and is IMHO a big big step in playing on Jan 6th. GO CATS!!!
Just wanted to ‘resurrect’ this topic/thread half way thru our season……….

We can’t ask for anything better than to be 6-0. However, we aren’t as ‘battle tested’ as our upcoming opponent, but we may be ‘fresher’. This will certainly be our biggest challenge since Week 0 (7 weeks ago). Our remaining schedule is;
• Oct 12……………….Idaho
• Oct 19……………….@PSU
• Oct 26……………….BYE (opening day of big game rifle season :-D )
• Nov 2………………..@EWU
• Nov 9………………..Sac St
• Nov 16………………@UCD
• Nov 23………………um
• Nov 30………………1st round of FCS playoffs (seeds 9-24….8 games)
• Dec 7th………………2nd round of FCS playoffs (remaining teams play 1-8 seeds…..8 games)
• Dec 13th & 14th…3rd round of FCS playoffs (8 teams remain….4 games)
• Dec 20th & 21st…4th round of FCS playoffs (semi-finals……2 games)
• Monday Jan 6th….FCS Championship in Frisco, TX (Dallas suburb)

Therefore, 4 of our remaining 6 BSC games are against top 20 teams, fortunately only one is on the road.

I think both BYE’s this season came at near perfect times/dates. Especially if you consider a likely BYE on Nov 30th.

Depending on which poll you look at we’re anywhere from #1 to #3……although the ones that count typically have us 3rd. From my original post above, NDSU had a dominant win over UND, but still have SDSU Oct 19 & @S Dakota Nov 23 left. SDSU has @NDSU Oct 19, S. Dakota Oct 26, & @N Dakota Nov 9.

On the injury front, it sounds like we lost Blake Schmidt and Caden Dowler (again) for the season. We still don’t have Davis or Perkins back yet, but Polidore will at least play this week which should ‘dampen’ the hurt of losing Caden, and, Garrigan is back as well.

It certainly seems to me that our team is hitting on all or at least most cylinders. Special teams, Tommy, defense & offense all have no glaring weaknesses. However, could that be because of our competition? As of now our schedule has been one of the easiest, but by the end of the season I think we’ll have an extremely competitive Strength of Schedule (SOS) that will help us with seeding. This week and next (SDSU@NDSU) should make the FCS playoff picture somewhat clearer.

Just need to go 1-0 this week :thumbup: GO CATS!!!



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