I get your point, but plenty of "underwhelming" hires turn out to be great coaches who are just looking for their first opportunity at this level. Chris Haslam would be a great example. Personally I won't be surprised to see Logie retain Johnny Hill to provide at least a little continuity on the staff.Willneal wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 1:38 pmNo different than recruiting against teams that offer more NIL money, sell, Bozeman, sell MSU.VimSince03 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 8:38 amDo you have $250,000 for an assistant coach?Willneal wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 7:53 amPulling for our new coach and will give him a fair change butLong Time Cat wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 7:46 amAbout the only reason we had to be excited about Sprinkle was that he was a former Cat, and a good one. If Logie had been a stud player for the Cats most would all be stoked right now. Instead he was a stud player for Lehigh. I encourage everyone to back away from the ledge and see what he can do.
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Would like to see a wow/surprise hire on his staff. A “wow…how did he hire that guy?” Moment
Example… Us hiring Andy Hill was a bit of a surprise hire, Considering what he was making at New Mex and Utah. I just don’t want to see him bring his D2 staff and his buddy who still coaches at Whitworth. That that would be underwhelming…ensembling a staff is a form recruiting.
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I can’t think of anyone that came to the BSC that was considered a lock to become a good coach/winning coach. Probably because it’s never happened. Whoever msu hired was going to fit that category.kennethnoisewater wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 9:22 amThis really is pretty unbelievable. I told somebody last night he looks better on paper than Sprinkle when he was coming in and they looked at me like I had three heads. I think some people assume it was some big steal that we got Danny, as if he was just coaching the Golden State Warriors.
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This is what I am wondering too.
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Geez man.. Andy Hill was an assistant at Utah for his buddy, Larry Kristowiak. Kristowiak was fired and Hill lost his job. He ended up at New Mexico for one season before ending at MSU . I think Hill is a decent coach, but hard to say his career was on an upward trajectory.Willneal wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 1:38 pmNo different than recruiting against teams that offer more NIL money, sell, Bozeman, sell MSU.VimSince03 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 8:38 amDo you have $250,000 for an assistant coach?Willneal wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 7:53 amPulling for our new coach and will give him a fair change butLong Time Cat wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 7:46 amAbout the only reason we had to be excited about Sprinkle was that he was a former Cat, and a good one. If Logie had been a stud player for the Cats most would all be stoked right now. Instead he was a stud player for Lehigh. I encourage everyone to back away from the ledge and see what he can do.
Go Cats!
Would like to see a wow/surprise hire on his staff. A “wow…how did he hire that guy?” Moment
Example… Us hiring Andy Hill was a bit of a surprise hire, Considering what he was making at New Mex and Utah. I just don’t want to see him bring his D2 staff and his buddy who still coaches at Whitworth. That that would be underwhelming…ensembling a staff is a form recruiting.
And assistants at the Big Sky level can barely afford rent in Bozeman. Expecting D1 assistants at P5 or G5 schools to come to Bozeman for an assistants position is not realistic. I would be surprised if our assistants are making $60,000 per year.
Why are you so worried about his assistants? Do you know them or have any other reason to think they are incompetent?
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"So they hired a guy who can't beat the griz?"RobertCats wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 1:22 pmSo listening to Nuanez Now and their breakdown of Logie (great listen if you haven't partaken https://share.transistor.fm/s/e68ac378 ) and they talk about Logie bringing Whitworth to Missoula for a handful of years to play an exhibition game. Colter mentioned he watched a few of those games with Logie at the helm and said they were always competitive, his team shot a lot of 3's and were well-coached. So I looked back at all those exhibition games of Logie-coached teams vs teams playing up a level or two.
2012-2013: Whitworth (DIII) 65 Idaho State (DI) 68 (35-40 at half)
2014-2015: Whitworth (DIII) 79 Montana 94 (DI) (31-47 at half)
2015-2016: Whitworth (DIII) 64 vs Montana (DI) 83 (couldn't find half score but Whitworth was up 44-43 with 17:22 left)
2016-2017: Whitworth (DIII) 80 vs Montana (DI) 90 (38-38 at half)
2017-2018: Whitworth (DIII) 60 vs Montana (DI) 72 (29-32 at half)
2018-2019: Whitworth (DIII) 58 vs Montana (DI) 90 (30-41 at half) ***Ouch, but this was the gris team that won the BSC and went 26-9 (16-4)
2021-2022: Point Loma (DII) 77 vs Pepperdine (DI) 50
So only one DI win, but he almost always competed with his DIII roster. All these exhibition games were played on the road as well. Might not mean a thing, but the guy obviously knows how to coach the game and he wins EVERYWHERE he goes.

I'm just joking. I'm actually less worried about this hire than the previous one. Maybe they guessed right, maybe they guessed wrong, but last time there was also a possibility that they hired the wrong guy because of a nostalgia factor. (Obviously that didn't happen.) This time that certainly won't be the case.
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Why I’m I so worried? Lol not worried but isn’t this a fan message board to create conversation? Again building a staff and hiring people who don’t or “shouldn’t” come here is a form of recruitment. That what I was getting atCataholic wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 5:15 pmGeez man.. Andy Hill was an assistant at Utah for his buddy, Larry Kristowiak. Kristowiak was fired and Hill lost his job. He ended up at New Mexico for one season before ending at MSU . I think Hill is a decent coach, but hard to say his career was on an upward trajectory.Willneal wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 1:38 pmNo different than recruiting against teams that offer more NIL money, sell, Bozeman, sell MSU.VimSince03 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 8:38 amDo you have $250,000 for an assistant coach?Willneal wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 7:53 amPulling for our new coach and will give him a fair change butLong Time Cat wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 7:46 amAbout the only reason we had to be excited about Sprinkle was that he was a former Cat, and a good one. If Logie had been a stud player for the Cats most would all be stoked right now. Instead he was a stud player for Lehigh. I encourage everyone to back away from the ledge and see what he can do.
Go Cats!
Would like to see a wow/surprise hire on his staff. A “wow…how did he hire that guy?” Moment
Example… Us hiring Andy Hill was a bit of a surprise hire, Considering what he was making at New Mex and Utah. I just don’t want to see him bring his D2 staff and his buddy who still coaches at Whitworth. That that would be underwhelming…ensembling a staff is a form recruiting.
And assistants at the Big Sky level can barely afford rent in Bozeman. Expecting D1 assistants at P5 or G5 schools to come to Bozeman for an assistants position is not realistic. I would be surprised if our assistants are making $60,000 per year.
Why are you so worried about his assistants? Do you know them or have any other reason to think they are incompetent?
Trajectory of his career is speculation, some wound say his experience of 10 years in the Pac 12 was a good thing. I’m simply saying with Matt’s limited D1 experience it would be good to see someone to counter balance that with “high level experience”.
Top asst at MSU makes 70+ Plus incentives. I believe all the assistants this season got a 5-10k+ bonus. That doesn’t include possible camp money.
I do appreciate the dialogue, truly
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There may be a difference between “creating conversation” and stating that you hope he doesn’t bring his former assistants. Sound like you may be speculating as well on his past assistants abilities.Willneal wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 7:09 amWhy I’m I so worried? Lol not worried but isn’t this a fan message board to create conversation? Again building a staff and hiring people who don’t or “shouldn’t” come here is a form of recruitment. That what I was getting atCataholic wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 5:15 pmGeez man.. Andy Hill was an assistant at Utah for his buddy, Larry Kristowiak. Kristowiak was fired and Hill lost his job. He ended up at New Mexico for one season before ending at MSU . I think Hill is a decent coach, but hard to say his career was on an upward trajectory.Willneal wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 1:38 pmNo different than recruiting against teams that offer more NIL money, sell, Bozeman, sell MSU.VimSince03 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 8:38 amDo you have $250,000 for an assistant coach?Willneal wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 7:53 amPulling for our new coach and will give him a fair change butLong Time Cat wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 7:46 amAbout the only reason we had to be excited about Sprinkle was that he was a former Cat, and a good one. If Logie had been a stud player for the Cats most would all be stoked right now. Instead he was a stud player for Lehigh. I encourage everyone to back away from the ledge and see what he can do.
Go Cats!
Would like to see a wow/surprise hire on his staff. A “wow…how did he hire that guy?” Moment
Example… Us hiring Andy Hill was a bit of a surprise hire, Considering what he was making at New Mex and Utah. I just don’t want to see him bring his D2 staff and his buddy who still coaches at Whitworth. That that would be underwhelming…ensembling a staff is a form recruiting.
And assistants at the Big Sky level can barely afford rent in Bozeman. Expecting D1 assistants at P5 or G5 schools to come to Bozeman for an assistants position is not realistic. I would be surprised if our assistants are making $60,000 per year.
Why are you so worried about his assistants? Do you know them or have any other reason to think they are incompetent?
Trajectory of his career is speculation, some wound say his experience of 10 years in the Pac 12 was a good thing. I’m simply saying with Matt’s limited D1 experience it would be good to see someone to counter balance that with “high level experience”.
Top asst at MSU makes 70+ Plus incentives. I believe all the assistants this season got a 5-10k+ bonus. That doesn’t include possible camp money.
I do appreciate the dialogue, truly
Didn’t realize that MSU basketball assistants are around $70,000 now. Much better than the past, but still probably not going to lure a D1 assistant from an upper tier program.
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Overstating the obvious here. This guy is a definite winner and will take our team to the next level.
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Basketball is basketball, whether it’s D1 or D3. Obviously you have differences in talent, and what schemes you’re able to effectively play, but the idea a successful lower level coach can’t succeed because he’s been at a lower level is so naive. You’re telling me Bob Hurley (the old one) wouldn’t have been a good college coach? Cmon. That’s just a lazy, garbage, narrative.
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From the email I got it sounds like no live stream but video will be posted later.superbobcat wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:39 amDoes anyone know if they will stream the press conference today?
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