GOKATS is a....

Post by **SonomaCat** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 1:41 pm

bearBAC wrote:I have to admitt, I'm having fun watching you guys in your attempts to defend DISHONOR!

It must be almost as much fun as seeing two Griz fans vigorously defending the virtues of being incapable of writing a logically sound sentence. Why do you hate intelligence? Why are you fighting for the forces of stupid?

As for Cat fans, I think we're universal in our feeling that this is a really stupid discussion in the first place.

catamaran · Post by **catamaran** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 1:54 pm

It's being perpetuated by the dregs of Mizzou...were you hoping for Peabody awards for them

El_Gato · Post by **El_Gato** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 6:12 pm

I have to admit that I am continually entertained by Scats.

He is just what we want in a griz fan: too stupid to make a proper wager, and then continues to perpetuate the stereotype that we have of a dUMb education (with all of the requisite pot-smoking) by continuing to demand that the WINNER of the bet actually owes him/her/it something...

Keep it up Scats! You're doing griz fans everywhere proud!

GOKATS · Post by **GOKATS** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 6:22 pm

go_catz! wrote:I think this whole thing is hilarious. To the casual reader, it must appear as if Scats actually thinks he needs to prove to everyone how ignorant he is. Actually, he may have a point. Come to think of it, I'm pretty sure I won the powerball last week, I just accidentally marked all the wrong numbers down on my ticket. Those weasels owe me money.

I don't know how gokats has been getting any sleep at night. I can think of nothing worse than being called a weasel on an internet message board. Hang in there bud.

It's

a real

bitc.................

BR GRIZ · Post by **BR GRIZ** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 6:36 pm

go_catz! wrote:I think this whole thing is hilarious. To the casual reader, it must appear as if Scats actually thinks he needs to prove to everyone how ignorant he is. Actually, he may have a point. Come to think of it, I'm pretty sure I won the powerball last week, I just accidentally marked all the wrong numbers down on my ticket. Those weasels owe me money.

I don't know how gokats has been getting any sleep at night. I can think of nothing worse than being called a weasel on an internet message board. Hang in there bud.

I don't think buying a powerball ticket is a good analogy. To me a better one is contract law. If the terms of the contract are clear, the parol evidence rule prevents you from looking beyond the terms to determine the parties' intent. If there is ambiguity, the ambiguity is interpreted against the party who drafted the contract. Clearly, GoKats would not legally be required to comply because the terms of the post "loser picks the winners sig" are clear, with any ambiguity interpreted against Scats.

Scat's frustration is the same as many people have with contract law, and boils down to a wish that the parties will comply with the mutual intent of their agreement, even if they are not legally required to do so. If the parties did mutually agree that the "winner" would pick, I believe it would show a lot of integrity and be extremely classy for GoKats to comply. If GoKats does not, however, I can't fault him because that's our system of jurisprudence.

Post by **SonomaCat** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 6:52 pm

If we stick with the strict contract analogy, we might also run afoul the concept that illegal acts included within the contract nullify the contract. I'm not sure if gambling using one's signature as the consideration is technically illegal or not, but in some state, I'm sure it probably is (and since this is the internet, defining the situs of the contract is probably subject to any number of interpretations).

I only post this bit, BR, because I was going through the exact same thought process you were, and the stuff above was part of the little theoretical stuff I had going on in my head.

I also believe one person claimed to be drunk, but I remember a case from my business law class from back in the day where it was ruled that being drunk doesn't invalidate a contract, even if it is a really bad contract. I don't know what impact that would have on things.

In the end, though, there's a lesson to be learned. If you want people to honor the intent of your written agreements, make sure your written agreements don't say the exact opposite of what you intended them to say.

Go Scats Go · Post by **Go Scats Go** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:26 pm

Whatever

I would not have WEASELED OUT!!!

go_catz! · Post by **go_catz!** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:59 pm

Bay Area Cat wrote:
I also believe one person claimed to be drunk

I'm the one who said I must have been drinking too much. I only said that because I read the wager, you know the one that says "loser picks the others sig..." and thought that Scats had actually tricked gokats into agreeing to a wager that Scats counted on losing and therefore would be the one picking gokats' signature.

I don't know what the hell I was thinking giving Scats that much credit though. He's clearly incapable of pulling something like that. I oughta be tarred and feathered...

Go Scats Go · Post by **Go Scats Go** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 10:03 pm

go_catz! wrote:
Bay Area Cat wrote:
I also believe one person claimed to be drunk
I'm the one who said I must have been drinking too much. I only said that because I read the wager, you know the one that says "loser picks the others sig..." and thought that Scats had actually tricked gokats into agreeing to a wager that Scats counted on losing and therefore would be the one picking gokats' signature.

I don't know what the hell I was thinking giving Scats that much credit though. He's clearly incapable of pulling something like that. I oughta be tarred and feathered...

GOKATS at home

BR GRIZ · Post by **BR GRIZ** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 2:53 pm

Go Scats Go wrote:Whatever

I would not have WEASELED OUT!!!

Scats, I would have done it as well. I like to believe that when I give somebody my word it means something. We UM alum were taught to take responsibility for our actions and to to to do what is right, even if we are not required to do so. As El Gato notes, however, we often take this too far and expect it from others who were not so fortunate as to graduate from UM. Society no longer requires people to be responsible for their actions, so we should not criticise GoKats or the other Cat grads who support his decision. We can only continually strive to do what is honorable ourselves, and hope that the less fortunate such as MSU grads will learn from and emulate it.

catamaran · Post by **catamaran** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 3:06 pm

Hell's Bells · Post by **Hell's Bells** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 3:06 pm

BR GRIZ wrote:
Go Scats Go wrote:Whatever

I would not have WEASELED OUT!!!
Scats, I would have done it as well. I like to believe that when I give somebody my word it means something. We UM alum were taught to take responsibility for our actions and to to to do what is right, even if we are not required to do so. As El Gato notes, however, we often take this too far and expect it from others who were not so fortunate as to graduate from UM. Society no longer requires people to be responsible for their actions, so we should not criticise GoKats or the other Cat grads who support his decision. We can only continually strive to do what is honorable ourselves, and hope that the less fortunate such as MSU grads will learn from and emulate it.

did you even read the bet? seems like the one being dishonest is go scats...
besides seems like everybody involved with the bet was the slightest bit drunk

Post by **SonomaCat** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 3:08 pm

BR GRIZ wrote:
Go Scats Go wrote:Whatever

I would not have WEASELED OUT!!!
Scats, I would have done it as well. I like to believe that when I give somebody my word it means something. We UM alum were taught to take responsibility for our actions and to to to do what is right, even if we are not required to do so. As El Gato notes, however, we often take this too far and expect it from others who were not so fortunate as to graduate from UM. Society no longer requires people to be responsible for their actions, so we should not criticise GoKats or the other Cat grads who support his decision. We can only continually strive to do what is honorable ourselves, and hope that the less fortunate such as MSU grads will learn from and emulate it.

I admire anyone who can say that with a straight face when speaking to a guy who calls himself "Go Scats."

Remind me never to play poker with you, sir, as you would surely kick my arse!

Post by **rtb** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 3:11 pm

WOW! I can't believe this discussion is still taking place. I can see both sides of the argument. I have a great idea why don't we let this garbage die, learn a lesson from it and move on. The lesson is very clear, when making a bet via the internet be sure to type your intent correctly so as to not let someone out through a loophole!

Now, lets all take the smack talk back up to an adult level and have fun with it! I am so tired of the childish crap that is spewed here.

Now everyone get back to work! bearBAC for you that means try to find a job!

BR GRIZ · Post by **BR GRIZ** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 3:50 pm

rtb wrote:WOW! I can't believe this discussion is still taking place. I can see both sides of the argument. I have a great idea why don't we let this garbage die, learn a lesson from it and move on. The lesson is very clear, when making a bet via the internet be sure to type your intent correctly so as to not let someone out through a loophole!

Now, lets all take the smack talk back up to an adult level and have fun with it! I am so tired of the childish crap that is spewed here.

Now everyone get back to work! bearBAC for you that means try to find a job!

Sorry rtb.

I haven't reviewed your board for a few weeks, and when I did this post seemed the most fun to join because I too can see both sides. In any event, I'm done with it.

Post by **rtb** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 4:16 pm

BR GRIZ wrote:Sorry rtb. I haven't reviewed your board for a few weeks, and when I did this post seemed the most fun to join because I too can see both sides. In any event, I'm done with it.

No worries, I just get tired of the childish smack that gets posted. My post wasn't directed at you, more just a plea for this to die.

Go Scats Go · Post by **Go Scats Go** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 9:37 pm

Go Scats Go · Post by **Go Scats Go** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 5:04 pm