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Re: 2019 Polls

Post by Darth Yoda » Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:41 pm

iaafan wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:16 pm
The coach poll doesn’t make sense. Assuming 13 points for a first place vote and 1 point for last, then how does EWU only have 140? Ten firsts is 130. That means they only got 10 points on the other three votes, which means none of the other voters picked them above sixth. No way. You have to give them third at least.

Also, if whoever voted UM first had put them fifth, which is where they belong, then MSU would be fourth. But who cares.
Only 12 votes per team. Although 10 points split between two votes doesn't make sense, so your point is good.



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Re: 2019 Polls

Post by thefrank1 » Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:44 pm

Ten firsts total 120 and the other two total 20.


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Re: 2019 Polls

Post by iaafan » Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:51 pm

Okay. That makes more sense.



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Re: 2019 Polls

Post by codecat » Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:24 pm

For what its worth, I will be posting in a separate thread again this year, the College Sports Madness Top 44 count-down. I know these are a little light, however they do have somewhat factual information on each team with regards to returning starters and key losses.


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Re: 2019 Polls

Post by Cataholic » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:05 pm

iaafan wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:33 am
CelticCat wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:22 am
Which coach voted the Griz #1? :lol:
I don’t think you can vote for your own team, so probably not Hauck. Probably Choate or Petrino.

The Griz media #1 vote is probably from Bill Speltz of the Missoulian.
How in the world could anybody give the Griz a number 1 vote? Half their own fan base is concerned they won’t make the playoffs this year. Coupled with their schedule this year and strength of other Big Sky favorites, winning the conference is highly unlikely.



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Re: 2019 Polls

Post by Colter_Nuanez » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:14 pm

Cataholic wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:05 pm
iaafan wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:33 am
CelticCat wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:22 am
Which coach voted the Griz #1? :lol:
I don’t think you can vote for your own team, so probably not Hauck. Probably Choate or Petrino.

The Griz media #1 vote is probably from Bill Speltz of the Missoulian.
How in the world could anybody give the Griz a number 1 vote? Half their own fan base is concerned they won’t make the playoffs this year. Coupled with their schedule this year and strength of other Big Sky favorites, winning the conference is highly unlikely.
Both of Montana's first-place votes came from Montana State.



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Re: 2019 Polls

Post by Cataholic » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:41 pm

Colter_Nuanez wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:14 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:05 pm
iaafan wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:33 am
CelticCat wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:22 am
Which coach voted the Griz #1? :lol:
I don’t think you can vote for your own team, so probably not Hauck. Probably Choate or Petrino.

The Griz media #1 vote is probably from Bill Speltz of the Missoulian.
How in the world could anybody give the Griz a number 1 vote? Half their own fan base is concerned they won’t make the playoffs this year. Coupled with their schedule this year and strength of other Big Sky favorites, winning the conference is highly unlikely.
Both of Montana's first-place votes came from Montana State.
Wow. Why would they do that? Motivational?



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Re: 2019 Polls

Post by RickRund » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:51 pm

Colter_Nuanez wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:14 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:05 pm
iaafan wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:33 am
CelticCat wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:22 am
Which coach voted the Griz #1? :lol:
I don’t think you can vote for your own team, so probably not Hauck. Probably Choate or Petrino.

The Griz media #1 vote is probably from Bill Speltz of the Missoulian.
How in the world could anybody give the Griz a number 1 vote? Half their own fan base is concerned they won’t make the playoffs this year. Coupled with their schedule this year and strength of other Big Sky favorites, winning the conference is highly unlikely.
Both of Montana's first-place votes came from Montana State.
Well it wasn't me..... Which two of you guys crossed the line :lol:


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Re: 2019 Polls

Post by thefrank1 » Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:11 pm

Colter, who at Montana State is in the Media pool?


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Re: 2019 Polls

Post by mslacatfan » Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:29 pm

Cataholic wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:41 pm
Colter_Nuanez wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:14 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:05 pm
iaafan wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:33 am
CelticCat wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:22 am
Which coach voted the Griz #1? :lol:
I don’t think you can vote for your own team, so probably not Hauck. Probably Choate or Petrino.

The Griz media #1 vote is probably from Bill Speltz of the Missoulian.
How in the world could anybody give the Griz a number 1 vote? Half their own fan base is concerned they won’t make the playoffs this year. Coupled with their schedule this year and strength of other Big Sky favorites, winning the conference is highly unlikely.
Both of Montana's first-place votes came from Montana State.
Wow. Why would they do that? Motivational?

Maybe choate honestly thinks that?... I dunno, I mean they should be pretty solid... or maybe it’s a mind game he is playing with hauck, just trying to mess with him..... :-k


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Re: 2019 Polls

Post by wapiti » Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:55 am

Has there ever been a player's poll?

Each team in the Big Sky sends a couple of players to the preseason event. Could there be a poll done with these players and have a preseason players poll? I think it would be interesting to see who the players pick as the favorite to win the conference. (And of course they would not be allowed to pick their own team.)

Any thoughts on this idea?



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Re: 2019 Polls

Post by Long Time Cat » Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:45 am

Hawks86 wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:03 am
2019 Big Sky Football Preseason Polls

Coaches Poll
1. Eastern Washington (10) – 140
2. UC Davis (2) - 127
3. Weber State - 124
4. Montana (1) - 104
5. Montana State - 100
6. Northern Arizona - 88
7. Idaho State - 72
8. Idaho - 65
9. Cal Poly - 56
10. Portland State - 42
11. Sacramento State - 40
12. Southern Utah - 38
13. Northern Colorado - 19

() Denotes First-Place Votes

Media Poll
1. Eastern Washington – 536 (25)
2. UC Davis – 510 (13)
3. Weber State – 472 (4)
4. Montana State - 417
5. Montana – 396 (1)
6. Northern Arizona - 302
7. Idaho State - 285
8. Idaho - 248
9. Cal Poly - 196
10. Portland State - 178
11. Southern Utah - 160
12. Sacramento State - 125
13. Northern Colorado - 90
There always seems to be a surprise team in the Big Sky. One much better than picked and one much worse than picked. Who do you think those teams will be this year? I think a good definition of a surprise would be to finish 4 or more spots above or below preseason predictions.

First for the surprise underperform: UC Davis, why? Eastern is too consistent to fall very far, Weber is getting to that same spot, would love to pick the Griz but I just can't see them finishing ninth or worse and there is no way I pick the Cats, so that leaves UC Davis. No one will overlook them this year and they are perhaps just a key injury away from dropping off. Not an easy decision but there it is.

The surprise outperform: Cal Poly, why? Again by elimination NAU, ISU, and UI not good enough to get out of the middle of the pack. Either SUU or PSU could surprise again like a couple years ago but I think that was just a fluke, not likely to be repeated. I think that Poly with there unique offense and strong tradition has the best shot of jumping into the top half of the league.

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Re: 2019 Polls

Post by Air Force Cat » Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:50 am

This seems good a place as any to put this. 2019 simulation from Versus Sports. I couldn't figure out how to share the pics so just used Twitter



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Re: 2019 Polls

Post by Cat Grad » Tue Jul 16, 2019 10:19 am

Long Time Cat wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:45 am
Hawks86 wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:03 am
2019 Big Sky Football Preseason Polls

Coaches Poll
1. Eastern Washington (10) – 140
2. UC Davis (2) - 127
3. Weber State - 124
4. Montana (1) - 104
5. Montana State - 100
6. Northern Arizona - 88
7. Idaho State - 72
8. Idaho - 65
9. Cal Poly - 56
10. Portland State - 42
11. Sacramento State - 40
12. Southern Utah - 38
13. Northern Colorado - 19

() Denotes First-Place Votes

Media Poll
1. Eastern Washington – 536 (25)
2. UC Davis – 510 (13)
3. Weber State – 472 (4)
4. Montana State - 417
5. Montana – 396 (1)
6. Northern Arizona - 302
7. Idaho State - 285
8. Idaho - 248
9. Cal Poly - 196
10. Portland State - 178
11. Southern Utah - 160
12. Sacramento State - 125
13. Northern Colorado - 90
There always seems to be a surprise team in the Big Sky. One much better than picked and one much worse than picked. Who do you think those teams will be this year? I think a good definition of a surprise would be to finish 4 or more spots above or below preseason predictions.

First for the surprise underperform: UC Davis, why? Eastern is too consistent to fall very far, Weber is getting to that same spot, would love to pick the Griz but I just can't see them finishing ninth or worse and there is no way I pick the Cats, so that leaves UC Davis. No one will overlook them this year and they are perhaps just a key injury away from dropping off. Not an easy decision but there it is.

The surprise outperform: Cal Poly, why? Again by elimination NAU, ISU, and UI not good enough to get out of the middle of the pack. Either SUU or PSU could surprise again like a couple years ago but I think that was just a fluke, not likely to be repeated. I think that Poly with there unique offense and strong tradition has the best shot of jumping into the top half of the league.

I love summer but I'm really starting to be ready for fall and football!
I'll play because this time of year is always filled with great anticipation for me. I'm going to agree with you to a certain extent, except I think it'll be EWU who falls significantly rather than Davis.

I think SAC, Idaho and PSU are all going to fare much better than the prognosticators have them placed. Much better in fact and I think the Griz win all those close games they lost last year. I really like the Griz kicker to win at least two games for them this year...I think they are the most improved team based upon...weight room rumors...



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Re: 2019 Polls

Post by Grizaddict » Tue Jul 16, 2019 10:25 am

Colter_Nuanez wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:14 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:05 pm
iaafan wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:33 am
CelticCat wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:22 am
Which coach voted the Griz #1? :lol:
I don’t think you can vote for your own team, so probably not Hauck. Probably Choate or Petrino.

The Griz media #1 vote is probably from Bill Speltz of the Missoulian.
How in the world could anybody give the Griz a number 1 vote? Half their own fan base is concerned they won’t make the playoffs this year. Coupled with their schedule this year and strength of other Big Sky favorites, winning the conference is highly unlikely.
Both of Montana's first-place votes came from Montana State.
:lol: :lol: isn’t it ironic, don’t ya think



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Re: 2019 Polls

Post by kennethnoisewater » Tue Jul 16, 2019 10:43 am

thefrank1 wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:11 pm
Colter, who at Montana State is in the Media pool?
I remember seeing Bill Lamberty as the voter on the national poll, I'd guess he's the guy on the BSC poll.


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Re: 2019 Polls

Post by kennethnoisewater » Tue Jul 16, 2019 10:46 am

Cataholic wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:41 pm
Colter_Nuanez wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:14 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:05 pm
iaafan wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:33 am
CelticCat wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:22 am
Which coach voted the Griz #1? :lol:
I don’t think you can vote for your own team, so probably not Hauck. Probably Choate or Petrino.

The Griz media #1 vote is probably from Bill Speltz of the Missoulian.
How in the world could anybody give the Griz a number 1 vote? Half their own fan base is concerned they won’t make the playoffs this year. Coupled with their schedule this year and strength of other Big Sky favorites, winning the conference is highly unlikely.
Both of Montana's first-place votes came from Montana State.
Wow. Why would they do that? Motivational?
I think MSU's coaches love playing the underdog/disrespect card so much that they're willing to vote that way. Just so they can say "hey, we've beaten those guys three years in a row but they're still getting the recognition".


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Re: 2019 Polls

Post by DriscollCat » Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:04 pm

Air Force Cat wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:50 am
This seems good a place as any to put this. 2019 simulation from Versus Sports. I couldn't figure out how to share the pics so just used Twitter

Wow 😲



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Re: 2019 Polls

Post by DriscollCat » Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:05 pm

DriscollCat wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:04 pm
Air Force Cat wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:50 am
This seems good a place as any to put this. 2019 simulation from Versus Sports. I couldn't figure out how to share the pics so just used Twitter

Wow 😲

Obviously this is premature, but if our season did play out that way, wow.



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Re: 2019 Polls

Post by Norsky19 » Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:36 pm

I wonder what Petrino is thinking right now....you know, with all that "FBS" talent? :D



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