Griz vs NDSU

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Honest question. Do we huddle?

We're considered a no-huddle offense. Have been since 2012 at least from what I'm seeing on Google.

[Hawks86]

Honest question. Do we huddle?

We're considered a no-huddle offense. Have been since 2012 at least from what I'm seeing on Google.

I guess I knew that. I was just thinking of the ISU and SDSU games and wondering if we ever huddled during those games.

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Honest question. Do we huddle?

We're considered a no-huddle offense. Have been since 2012 at least from what I'm seeing on Google.

I guess I knew that. I was just thinking of the ISU and SDSU games and wondering if we ever huddled during those games.

I hear ya. I guess until this morning I never thought about counting how many times a team huddles. That's a griznationalist innovation.

[91catAlum]

Honest question. Do we huddle?

No we don't, but according to griznational, unless you go the entire game without one single huddle, you're not a no huddle offense.

[Griznationalist]

I never said no-huddle is innovation. But if you think your defensive coordinator(s) don't care whether the opponent huddles, I hope you are right! I said the combination of no huddle, fly sweep motion, and six 4th down attempts is unusual if not innovative. And, most importantly, I said it in response to someone who said they saw nothing new or innovative on Saturday. When was the last time you saw fly sweep motion, six 4th down attempts, or no huddle all game?

[Hawks86]

I never said no-huddle is innovation. But if you think your defensive coordinator(s) don't care whether the opponent huddles, I hope you are right! I said the combination of no huddle, fly sweep motion, and six 4th down attempts is unusual if not innovative. And, most importantly, I said it in response to someone who said they saw nothing new or innovative on Saturday. When was the last time you saw fly sweep motion, six 4th down attempts, or no huddle all game?

11/29/14

[bigkid]

The bottom line is Montana made a good hire when they brought in Coach Stitt. He not only understands X's and O's but makes a decision and doesn't question it. Good or bad. He understands defenses and knows how to attack them in a very aggressive manner. But the one thing that's being missed is the players. They have bought into it and played like it. When they came out of the tunnel they were confident they could win and did. No let up! From what I understand the playbook is barely opened and we should see a lot more to it. We will get key players (Weyer, Todd, and Logwood) back. I have to admit he coaches in a very unconventional manner and has verbalized that fans better get used to it. Its what he does.
I don't think the no huddle is new but I have to admit his going on 4th down was a bit un nerving.

Personally I was surprised NDSU had a difficult time finishing the game. We're 1-0 and have 10 more to play. A lot can happen in that time.....

Go Griz!!

[RationalGriz]

Pretty normal for a coach to go for it on 4th down 6 times in a game.

[BR GRIZ]

I never said no-huddle is innovation. But if you think your defensive coordinator(s) don't care whether the opponent huddles, I hope you are right! I said the combination of no huddle, fly sweep motion, and six 4th down attempts is unusual if not innovative. And, most importantly, I said it in response to someone who said they saw nothing new or innovative on Saturday. When was the last time you saw fly sweep motion, six 4th down attempts, or no huddle all game?

Stitt's innovative but I don't think it's for the reasons you're claiming. In the past Stitt has been very open with sharing his innovative plays with others. Most people have now heard about West Virginia using his fly sweep against Clemson, but the offensive coordinators from Alabama, Texas A&M, the Minnesota Vikings, and others have sought his advice and have used his plays at the next level. He's considered an offensive guru because a lot of the offensive plays now used in college football, perhaps even some used by the Cats, can trace their roots back to him.

I think the only plays Stitt ran against NDSU that the Bison hadn’t seen and prepared for were the heavy backfield on short yardage, but Stitt's still installing his offense at UM. I’m sure we will see more of his innovation in the future. Some of those plays will probably be bad, but if history is any indication some of them will be very good and will end up being copied by other teams.

What I’m most excited about is the speed at which Stitt wants to play. I think I read that in 2014 Oregon had the fastest offense in Division 1, and Stitt at the Colorando School of Mines averaged something like a couple of seconds per play faster. Prior to the game I attended a GSA function where Stitt stated that if the Griz were able to run 90 plays against NDSU at his speed he would make NDSU's "excellent" defense look "average" by the 4th quarter. Against NDSU Stitt thought Gustafson was taking way too long getting the plays off in the second and the first part of the third quarter, and he felt he finally got NDSU on their heels a little bit once the Griz sped up getting the plays off in the latter part of the third quarter. I'm anxious to see whether the Bison actually do have an average defense this year, or whether Stitt did exactly what he wanted to do.

In order to be as fast as Stitt wants to go, however, the Griz are usually only going to operate out of a couple of formations, most of the plays will have been run before and will come off those formations, and that’s what opposing defenses will prepare for. According to the post game interview NDSU did not see any plays out of those formations that Stitt didn’t run at Mines. The only thing NDSU hadn’t prepared for was the short yardage formations with the defensive tackles and the linebacker, resulting in the NDSU timeouts to insure alignment and ultimately the winning touchdown.

[lutecat]

Pretty normal for a coach to go for it on 4th down 6 times in a game.

But is it inovative for a coach to go for it 6 times, not go for it on 4th for a TD at the end of the game when NDSU should've run the ball 2 more times to run down the clock, run fly sweeps, go no huddle, and play Elis Henderson opposite Jamal Jones, while wearing a green hat on the sidelines. You guys are foolish if you think that's not innovative.

[91catAlum]

Pretty normal for a coach to go for it on 4th down 6 times in a game.

Sheesh man. Nobody here said it was "normal."

The question was asked, what was so innovative about the griz offense, and a griz poster said it was the no huddle and going for fourth down 6 times.
Then a discussion ensued about whether that was really innovative, or just aggressive.

[WeedKillinCat]

Congrats to the griz for a great win. It was a well played game. However I look at this game in being like an FCS team knocking off an FBS team on the first game of the year. NDSU has been pretty dominant the last 4-5 years and have knocked of big time FBS teams on their own.

I hope most griz fans can see that although it is a great win not the national championship, there is still the rest of the season to go and a lot can happen. MSU beat Colorado in Boulder but didn't we lose to a D2 school that same season?

[Rich K]

Innovative is the high school coach in Florida whose teams never punt and always attempt an onside kick on kickoffs.

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I never said no-huddle is innovation. But if you think your defensive coordinator(s) don't care whether the opponent huddles, I hope you are right! I said the combination of no huddle, fly sweep motion, and six 4th down attempts is unusual if not innovative. And, most importantly, I said it in response to someone who said they saw nothing new or innovative on Saturday. When was the last time you saw fly sweep motion, six 4th down attempts, or no huddle all game?

Stitt's innovative but I don't think it's for the reasons you're claiming. In the past Stitt has been very open with sharing his innovative plays with others. Most people have now heard about West Virginia using his fly sweep against Clemson, but the offensive coordinators from Alabama, Texas A&M, the Minnesota Vikings, and others have sought his advice and have used his plays at the next level. He's considered an offensive guru because a lot of the offensive plays now used in college football, perhaps even some used by the Cats, can trace their roots back to him.

I think the only plays Stitt ran against NDSU that the Bison hadn’t seen and prepared for were the heavy backfield on short yardage, but Stitt's still installing his offense at UM. I’m sure we will see more of his innovation in the future. Some of those plays will probably be bad, but if history is any indication some of them will be very good and will end up being copied by other teams.

What I’m most excited about is the speed at which Stitt wants to play. I think I read that in 2014 Oregon had the fastest offense in Division 1, and Stitt at the Colorando School of Mines averaged something like a couple of seconds per play faster. Prior to the game I attended a GSA function where Stitt stated that if the Griz were able to run 90 plays against NDSU at his speed he would make NDSU's "excellent" defense look "average" by the 4th quarter. Against NDSU Stitt thought Gustafson was taking way too long getting the plays off in the second and the first part of the third quarter, and he felt he finally got NDSU on their heels a little bit once the Griz sped up getting the plays off in the latter part of the third quarter. I'm anxious to see whether the Bison actually do have an average defense this year, or whether Stitt did exactly what he wanted to do.

In order to be as fast as Stitt wants to go, however, the Griz are usually only going to operate out of a couple of formations, most of the plays will have been run before and will come off those formations, and that’s what opposing defenses will prepare for. According to the post game interview NDSU did not see any plays out of those formations that Stitt didn’t run at Mines. The only thing NDSU hadn’t prepared for was the short yardage formations with the defensive tackles and the linebacker, resulting in the NDSU timeouts to insure alignment and ultimately the winning touchdown.

Your first paragraph describe an ambitious person who's trying to get his name out there in order to advance his career.

[ImagineSanta]

In Canadian football, they are so innovative they punt on 3rd down.

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You mainly won because NDSU just isn't that good defensively right now. You had more points and more yards on them than you did on our sorry defense last year. I wouldn't be giving all the credit to Stitt so fast.

[Htowngriz]

You mainly won because NDSU just isn't that good defensively right now. You had more points and more yards on them than you did on our sorry defense last year. I wouldn't be giving all the credit to Stitt so fast.

Yeah, I'm sure the new offense had nothing to do with us scoring more points and gaining more yards than we did against you.

Are you just trying to look stupid at this point?

[Griznationalist]

This is beautiful. So NDSU has a lame, sorry-ass defense. I wish the fools who ranked NDSU #1 in the nation had thought to call these geniuses first. Now we've circled back to the reasoning that Montana owes its win to NDSU's mediocrity. If only the national writers would tap into the Einsteins of Bobcatnation forum chat.

[LIBBYCAT]

Despite Stitts innovation, he is going to have a hard time covering the thin spots as the injury bug takes hold. Attrition is the the real bugaboo of this game. His defense is thin in some spots and one or two injuries will put them in a bind. It takes planning, luck and quality depth to stay at the top. Just saying, one good win at home, does not a season make.

[91catAlum]

This is beautiful. So NDSU has a lame, sorry-ass defense. I wish the fools who ranked NDSU #1 in the nation had thought to call these geniuses first. Now we've circled back to the reasoning that Montana owes its win to NDSU's mediocrity. If only the national writers would tap into the Einsteins of Bobcatnation forum chat.

Who are "these geniuses" exactly?