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UMclassof2002 · Post by **UMclassof2002** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 2:06 pm

In all seriousness, that was a sweet win for the hoops squad. They were lights out at the free throw line. It will be really interesting to see how Chavez does this year - he was perfect from the floor last night and was playing hard at both ends.

Question for those with extensive Montana HS basketball knowledge:

Someone on eGriz at one point made the claim that Chavez is arguably the best Montana HS player of all time. Any credibility to that?

WalkOn79 · Post by **WalkOn79** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 2:13 pm

Three state titles at two schools if I remember right. Heart Butte and Browning. He was a man-child in highschool. Hope he keeps his personal sh!t together for your sake.

Ponycat · Post by **Ponycat** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 3:11 pm

I thought it was 4 state titles. 3 with Heart Butte and 1 with Browning. I'd say he was probably the best Class C player but I'd have a hard time agreeing with the best ever in any class.

Elvis Old Bull was better in my opinion.

I'd have been much more impressed with this win 15 years ago. LMU hasn't been anything great in a long time. Although this win is much better that a loss to a Div. II team.

UMclassof2002 · Post by **UMclassof2002** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 3:16 pm

Ponycat wrote:I thought it was 4 state titles. 3 with Heart Butte and 1 with Browning. I'd say he was probably the best Class C player but I'd have a hard time agreeing with the best ever in any class.

Elvis Old Bull was better in my opinion.

I'd have been much more impressed with this win 15 years ago. LMU hasn't been anything great in a long time. Although this win is much better that a loss to a Div. II team.

True. However, after our second half meltdown against BSU I feared for the remainder of the road trip. I'll take 1-1 on the road to start the season.

whitetrashgriz · Post by **whitetrashgriz** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 3:28 pm

UMclassof2002 wrote:In all seriousness, that was a sweet win for the hoops squad. They were lights out at the free throw line. It will be really interesting to see how Chavez does this year - he was perfect from the floor last night and was playing hard at both ends.

Question for those with extensive Montana HS basketball knowledge:

Someone on eGriz at one point made the claim that Chavez is arguably the best Montana HS player of all time. Any credibility to that?

no

lifeloyalsigmsu · Post by **lifeloyalsigmsu** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 3:51 pm

Ponycat wrote:I thought it was 4 state titles. 3 with Heart Butte and 1 with Browning. I'd say he was probably the best Class C player but I'd have a hard time agreeing with the best ever in any class.

Elvis Old Bull was better in my opinion.

I'd have been much more impressed with this win 15 years ago. LMU hasn't been anything great in a long time. Although this win is much better that a loss to a Div. II team.

What about that kid who went to high school in Highwood during the mid 90's then played for Rocky. His first name might have been Reece or something like that.

Post by **SonomaCat** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 4:00 pm

lifeloyalsigmsu wrote:
Ponycat wrote:I thought it was 4 state titles. 3 with Heart Butte and 1 with Browning. I'd say he was probably the best Class C player but I'd have a hard time agreeing with the best ever in any class.

Elvis Old Bull was better in my opinion.

I'd have been much more impressed with this win 15 years ago. LMU hasn't been anything great in a long time. Although this win is much better that a loss to a Div. II team.
What about that kid who went to high school in Highwood during the mid 90's then played for Rocky. His first name might have been Reece or something like that.

Highwood, then Belt, then Eastern, then Rocky (I think?).

Reece Gliko. Great shooter and scorer, but I don't think he was in the running for best of all time. Nobody that I ever effectively guarded (even if he was a Frosh when I was a Senior) should be in the running for best of all time.

He honestly wasn't a great athlete by any stretch, but he was/is a great shooter and ball handler.

If we want to go with a Class C guard to throw in the best of all time club, my vote would go to Jeremy Lake (who I also guarded, and looked very foolish as I did so). He was much more of a complete player than Gliko.

If you want another pure shooter to add to the list, Scott Henderson from Box Elder was as good as I've ever seen.

WalkOn79 · Post by **WalkOn79** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 4:00 pm

lifeloyalsigmsu wrote:
Ponycat wrote:I thought it was 4 state titles. 3 with Heart Butte and 1 with Browning. I'd say he was probably the best Class C player but I'd have a hard time agreeing with the best ever in any class.

Elvis Old Bull was better in my opinion.

I'd have been much more impressed with this win 15 years ago. LMU hasn't been anything great in a long time. Although this win is much better that a loss to a Div. II team.
What about that kid who went to high school in Highwood during the mid 90's then played for Rocky. His first name might have been Reece or something like that.

Glicko. Great shooter, didn't play defense, dumb as a stick. Couldn't decide if he wanted to be from Highwood or Belt, so transferred to Belt and Highwood won a State title.

WalkOn79 · Post by **WalkOn79** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 4:05 pm

Others for consideration?

1) Krysko (Best big man)
2) Kral Ferch (Most Athletic)
3) Willy Weeks (Best all-around)

WalkOn79 · Post by **WalkOn79** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 4:07 pm

The kid from Anaconda that died in the car crash in the 50's? I remember, Wayne Estes

MSU Toddler · Post by **MSU Toddler** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 4:14 pm

thanks for the trip down memory lane - saw Glicko play at the fieldhouse in college - his only miss was a half courter that was off the rim (at least that's how i'd like to remember it).

this is somewhat related (but not really):

http://bozemandailychronicle.com/articl ... 3top10.txt

Ponycat · Post by **Ponycat** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 4:17 pm

WalkOn79 wrote:Others for consideration?

1) Krysko (Best big man)
2) Kral Ferch (Most Athletic)
3) Willy Weeks (Best all-around)

I always heard that Krysko was Ok in high school but nothing great, but then grew a little bit and worked his ass off and became great in college. This is what my cousin said who played against him in high school then went to UofM to play with him. He said he couldn't believe the improvement and size difference from his senior year in high school to freshman in college.

Ponycat · Post by **Ponycat** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 4:21 pm

My top five Class C players would be

1.) Hereford - Gardiner
2.) Chavez
3.) Henderson
4.) The kid from Absorkee (87?) that played for Rocky. Walker, I think
5.) Lake

6.) Scott Razor from Noxon

Granted these are just ones I've seen. I couldn't say any further back than 86-87

WalkOn79 · Post by **WalkOn79** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 4:24 pm

Ponycat wrote:
WalkOn79 wrote:Others for consideration?

1) Krysko (Best big man)
2) Kral Ferch (Most Athletic)
3) Willy Weeks (Best all-around)
I always heard that Krysko was Ok in high school but nothing great, but then grew a little bit and worked his ass off and became great in college. This is what my cousin said who played against him in high school then went to UofM to play with him. He said he couldn't believe the improvement and size difference from his senior year in high school to freshman in college.

Probably right about Krysko. What about the big guy from Bozeman who played at Kansas. Can't for the life of me think of a name. Any help out there?

WalkOn79 · Post by **WalkOn79** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 4:31 pm

WalkOn79 wrote:
Ponycat wrote:
WalkOn79 wrote:Others for consideration?

1) Krysko (Best big man)
2) Kral Ferch (Most Athletic)
3) Willy Weeks (Best all-around)
I always heard that Krysko was Ok in high school but nothing great, but then grew a little bit and worked his ass off and became great in college. This is what my cousin said who played against him in high school then went to UofM to play with him. He said he couldn't believe the improvement and size difference from his senior year in high school to freshman in college.
Probably right about Krysko. What about the big guy from Bozeman who played at Kansas. Can't for the life of me think of a name. Any help out there?

Sorry Ponycat, need to be older than 35 to help us out with the last one.

Cat-theotherwhitemeat · Post by **Cat-theotherwhitemeat** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 4:34 pm

Estes
Krysco
Selvig - pick one
JR Camel (high school anyway)
Ferch

anacondagriz · Post by **anacondagriz** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 4:59 pm

Ponycat wrote:My top five Class C players would be

1.) Hereford - Gardiner
2.) Chavez
3.) Henderson
4.) The kid from Absorkee (87?) that played for Rocky. Walker, I think
5.) Lake

6.) Scott Razor from Noxon

Granted these are just ones I've seen. I couldn't say any further back than 86-87

Leave it to a Bobcat fan to count six players in his top 5. He he

BR GRIZ · Post by **BR GRIZ** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 5:00 pm

Ponycat wrote:
I always heard that Krysko was Ok in high school but nothing great, but then grew a little bit and worked his ass off and became great in college. This is what my cousin said who played against him in high school then went to UofM to play with him. He said he couldn't believe the improvement and size difference from his senior year in high school to freshman in college.

I heard that Krysko was a very good high school player. My roommate in college played center for the Griz. I remember him coming home from some sort of practice/pickup game in the off season, where he played against Krysko when Krysko was a senior, talking about how good this high school kid was and how difficult he was to defend.

catatac · Post by **catatac** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 5:23 pm

I'm surprised you Griz fans have been leaving out Darren Engellant

from Geraldine. Gotta be top 3 class C of all time...