Should Lulay's number be retired?

bozbobcat · Post by **bozbobcat** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 10:23 pm

I saw this on msubobcats.com and I thought I'd ask it here. I believe that it should be retired.

Post by **rtb** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 10:43 pm

No question about it. He did so much for MSU Football. I think he deserves to have the number retired.

MSU01 · Post by **MSU01** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 10:47 pm

Absolutely. In fact, I was surprised that it didn't happen on Saturday given the sudden appearance of the other retired jersey numbers up on the press box.

longhorn_22 · Post by **longhorn_22** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 11:57 pm

What is the differnce between retiring the number and the jersey?

MSU01 · Post by **MSU01** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 12:15 am

If the jersey is retired, people can still wear the number in the future. If the number is retired, nobody would ever wear #14 for the football team again.

longhorn_22 · Post by **longhorn_22** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 12:18 am

MSU01 wrote:If the jersey is retired, people can still wear the number in the future. If the number is retired, nobody would ever wear #14 for the football team again.

Whats the point of retiring the jersey then? Just retire the number.

MSU01 · Post by **MSU01** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 12:19 am

longhorn_22 wrote:
Whats the point of retiring the jersey then? Just retire the number.

Agreed....retiring the jersey only seems pretty pointless, which is why I voted for Option #1.

PapaG · Post by **PapaG** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 12:20 am

Travis did as much for this program as anyone I can remember, but I had to vote for retiring his 'name' and not his number.

I'm just not a big fan of retiring numbers at the collegiate level. Had the 'Cats won a national championship you might sway me.

The facts are that Lulay, through no fault of his own, never even won a playoff game. And in this state I feel like retiring the number is settling to some degree.

tampa_griz · Post by **tampa_griz** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 1:14 am

PapaG wrote:Travis did as much for this program as anyone I can remember, but I had to vote for retiring his 'name' and not his number.

I'm just not a big fan of retiring numbers at the collegiate level. Had the 'Cats won a national championship you might sway me.

The facts are that Lulay, through no fault of his own, never even won a playoff game. And in this state I feel like retiring the number is settling to some degree.

Damn I hate to admit it....but Lulay snapped a 16-year Griz domination........three times.........one helleva an athlete......retire it MSU.....he made you guys compete.......

BozeMan · Post by **BozeMan** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 1:30 am

Retiring Lulay's number should not be an issue. It should be a given. And that is just based on his performance on the field. He has been an exemplary student athlete for four years and has given so much to Montana State University, not to mention what he has given to the community of Bozeman. Reading some of the stories about #14 on this very message board has only reinforced that which I had already known: Travis Lulay represents everything that MSU fans and students stand for and should be proud of. Players this special are few and far between, and we were beyond lucky to have had Travis Lulay wearing #14 in blue and gold for four years.

Thanks Travis!

profisme · Post by **profisme** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 1:42 am

I think the same could be said for Ryan Johnson. He did a lot for the Cats, just like Lulay. It was on and off the field. Johnson was a finalist for the Payton award, plus he was a 4.0 student throughout his college career. I feel very lucky to have been here at school and to have known each of these two excellent gentlemen. Whether or not their numbers get retired ever, they are in my Montana State University Hall of Fame.

MSUCATS · Post by **MSUCATS** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 7:34 am

Retire #14 forever!!

catsrback76 · Post by **catsrback76** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 8:43 am

The masses have spoken. It's a no brainer-- retire it now!

catsrback76 · Post by **catsrback76** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 8:44 am

catsrback76 wrote:The masses have spoken. It's a no brainer-- retire it now!

Number 14-- That is!

WalkOn79 · Post by **WalkOn79** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 9:38 am

Absolutely, Positively, No-Brainer. 14 should be hanging from the stadium in September.

AZCAT21 · Post by **AZCAT21** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 11:00 am

Don't think that post season will have anything to do with retiring the number, i.e. Jason Erickson had his number retired and didn't even make the conference tourney his last 2 years.....

bozbobcat · Post by **bozbobcat** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 11:04 am

I still think that we missed the boat in not retiring Kane Ioane's number/jersey back in 2003.

raincat · Post by **raincat** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 11:20 am

Hold the wagon. You people sure you want to retire the number of a player who on the one hand put up huge numbers individually, but on the other never quarterbacked his team to more than 7 wins in a season, never won a outright conference championship, never won a post season play-off game after four years as a starter, and finsihed his senior year as the second team all-conference quarterback? And if you want to put the victories over the griz in his hands, I choose to attribute two of the three to the defense.
I am a huge Travis Lulay fan! He exemplifies everything we look for in Bobcat athletes. But so do/did a whole bunch who came before him, like multi-year All-American Mark Fellows and Ryan Johnson whose numbers still show up at Bobcat Stadium every Saturday. Every time I see # 34 I can't help but think of RJ. In over 100 years of Bobcat football only four numbers have been retired. Let's let the emotion of the moment die down and reevaluate at a later date.

Post by **rtb** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 11:37 am

Are you kidding me? Did you witness any of the many comebacks? Travis grabbed the team, put them on his back and carried us to many of our wins on his own. The number of wins, playoffs, etc. aren't all his fault. It would help if he had a better supporting team around him. We aren't saying his numbers are enough to stand on. It is what he accomplished on and off the field, his heart, and his drive to win and never quit that make Travis one very special player who deserves to have #14 retired.

WeedKillinCat · Post by **WeedKillinCat** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 11:41 am

I'll never forget NAU 2 years ago, down by 10, 2 minutes to go. With TL's arm and legs, he and others pulled out a miraculous victory. By far one of the best games I've seen. I felt his never die attitude helped other players play better...

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