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Post by CelticCat » Tue Oct 11, 2005 10:11 am

Yet again I was off by one game last week. The Griz had a statement game last week at ISU, completely dominating both sides of the ball. My other predictions were pretty much on though.

My percentage so far is 81.25%, 13 for 16. I need to step it up a bit! Unfortunately this week of games is insanely hard to predict.

This week only features 3 matchups, all BSC games. NAU and ISU both have a much needed bye.

Sacramento State @ Weber State
- The Hornets got a much needed tune-up game last week by soundly beating NAIA Azusa Pacific, 41-19. The game was closer than I expected for just over a quarter, with AZU actually leading at the end of the first. Sac blew up for 27 in the second though, lead behind Sophmore standout Ryan Mole, who rushed for 202 yards on 24 carries and 2 TDs, becoming just the third player in Hornet history to have multiple 200 yard games (Charles Roberts had an astounding 13 multiple 200 yard games). While Sac was taking care of AZU, Weber was losing it's second consecutive heartbreaking loss to a Montana school. They lost by 5 at UM, then by a last second FG to MSU at home. They actually put up more yards and points than any team in IAA has done on the Griz, and they did it in WAGriz, no small task. They face a Sac team that is winless on the road (although so is Weber), and who gives up 144 yards per game on the ground and over 2 TDs a game on the ground. Weber may be without their starting RB, but they have more than capable backups and can go 4 deep and have no real dip in talent. They average 175 per game on the ground. But they can beat you through the air as well, averaging 228 YPG. I think the three headed monster of Pizzaro(QB)/Hall(RB)/Jackson(WR) will be too much for the suspect Hornet defense to contain. The Hornets have a lot of talent but can never seem to pull it together, and Weber is making great progress under first year head coach Ron McBride. Neither team is a contender yet, but Weber is a lot closer than CSUS. Sac has a two game winning streaking coming into Ogden, and Weber is riding a two game losing streak. I see both of those streaks coming to an end Saturday.
What to watch : Brady Fosmark will give anyone in the country fits, and will apply pressure all day on an immobile Chris Hurd.
- 17-27

#8 Montana State @ Portland State
- Face it Bobcat fans - MSU has played horrid on the road this season against their IAA competition. They were hammered by Cal Poly and needed a miraculous comeback to beat a middle-of-the-pack Weber team. The Cats have been shooting themselves in the feet all season, even in their victories (with the exception of NDSU). While it speaks volumes about this team that they can win even when playing poorly, it is going to come back and nip you in the butt sometime. Unfortunately, I believe that will happen this week. MSU's run defense is 92nd in the nation giving up 191 per game. And while PSU's run offense is only 36th, they do have the #2 rusher in all of Division I football (including IA) in Joe Rubin. PSU rides or dies with Rubin. Rubin rushed for 151 yards and a TD vs IA Boise State and kept his team ahead for over a half. PSU's front five get a good push and open plenty of holes for Rubin, and he is dangerous when he bounces outside. While PSU had a solid showing at BSU, the Cats were winning about as ugly as you can in Ogden. 3 turnovers, 2 dropped TD passes (one for a endzone INT), 120 yards in penalties, and down by 14 with 12 minutes to go in the game. You simply cannot play that way week in and week out and excpect to keep winning. The problems are the worst on the road, and back-to-back road games are always hard. During their only IAA loss to EWU, the Viks simply could not stop Meyer and Cole (who rushed for 5 TDs). The Cats have found no answer at RB, and are starting to become one-dimensional once again. Lulay can still beat you any Saturday, but asking him to do that twice in a row on the road with no run defense is too tall of an order for this week. I think the Cats won't play as sloppy as they did at PSU, but will have to play even better than that to win.
What to watch : If MSU can somehow contain Rubin and minimize the sloppy play (turnovers and penalties), the Cats have all the talent to win this game.
- 24-28

#9 Eastern Washington @ #3 Montana
- If this isn't the biggest game in IAA, then I'm the Queen of England. Defense vs Offense. The classic showdown. The unstoppable machine vs the immovable wall. EWU quite humbly beat a undererforming NAU squad into the ground. The country was focused on bigger games (such as UM @ ISU), but this game was as solid of a performance as you can get. EWU passed for 322 yards, ran for 261 more and didn't turn the ball over. Oh yea, they played solid defense, giving up just 185 total yards, holding Murietta 4/12 for 33 yards before he came out. The glaring stat though - 41:58 TOP for the Eags. Meanwhile the Griz were taken off of offensive life support with the first start of RSFreshman QB Cole Berquist, who was 16/26 for 178 yard and 2 TDs (for the Griz QBs this year, this isn't too shabby). Unfortunately there is a lot of question to whether or not Jason Washington will be healthy enough to play, and if so, will he get the start? Berquist may have been the talk of the town, but the day belonged to Hilliard and the Griz defense. They completely shut down the ISU run game, while having a dominating performance from their own. Enough recapping. EWU has only scored under 30 once this year (a 35-24 loss to IA SJSU), and they will get their points. With the emergance of Ryan Cole, EWU can now beat you any way they want on offense. They average a mere 505 yards of offense a game, no big deal. Montana is giving up less than 300 YPG on defense, however, and are +1.4 in the turnover ratio. The Griz are going to come back to WAGriz with tons of confidence after their blowout of a good ISU team, and the crowd will only help to inflate that confidence. EWU on the other hand is playing with quiet precision and soundly beating solid teams. EWU has the best chance of anyone in the Sky to upend UM at home, and I think normally they would be too much firepower for anyone to handle, let alone UM, but the Griz are too tough at home and no one seems to play to their potential at WAGriz.
What to watch : The 12th man will make or break this game. If EWU stays calm and plays their game, victory will befall the Eags.
- 27-31

Possible upset of the week: Most of the games this week are evenly matched, and I had an extremely hard time picking the MSU/PSU and UM/EWU games. So I guess the upset possibility would be Sac over Weber, if that could be called an upset.
Best matchup: EWU @ UM
Worst matchup: None

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Post by WYCAT » Tue Oct 11, 2005 10:39 am

Can't argue with much there Celtic. It doesn't take Lee Corso and Kirk Herbstreit to analyze this matchup. Our inability to stop anyone's running game vs. Joe Rubin - the leading rusher in IAA. We have made everyone look good running against us this year and this guy obviously doesn't need any help. Our only chance, IMHO, is to play a nearly perfect game - score every trip to the redzone, win the TO battle, and don't give up any easy yards or scores with penalties, missed tackles, etc. If we can make Rubin and Co. earn every yard and take care of business on offense we can win this one. I don't know why we struggle so much on the road because at OSU in game one I never once saw us affected by the crowd and their is no comparison to that stadium and it's overall hostile environment to either WSU or PSU. With a bye week coming up this is a huge opportunity for us. Find a way to win and we are sitting at 5-2 & 3-0 in the BSC with 3 of the last 4 at home. I would probably tap PSU as a slight favorite as well but my only solice is that Travis really hasn't had a game up to his full potential yet this season. If he can do that and we don't fall behind early (very important I think - see Poly) I think we pull out another nailbiter.



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Post by Platinumcat » Tue Oct 11, 2005 11:24 am

Fellas,
I know what you're saying makes sense. But, I just can't do it. I think that Lulay is playing at a very high level. The problem I see is that the rest of the team needs to elevate themselves to that status.

I predict that the Bobcats bring their big dog mentality to the game and win.



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Post by MSU01 » Tue Oct 11, 2005 11:55 am

Well done again, Celtic. I tend to agree with your picks...both games will be close, but I'd say that PSU and UM are slight favorites as the home teams. All I know is that I'll be glued to the TV all day on Saturday. EWU/UM in the afternoon and MSU/PSU in the evening!



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Post by Down With the Foe! » Tue Oct 11, 2005 12:13 pm

ROAD GAME to the Redheaded stepchild's home state. (how did they ever let him get away???)


PSU takes this one....too much run.


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Post by grizsuck24 » Tue Oct 11, 2005 12:21 pm

I'm with you guys, If the cats don't make some serious adjustments in all aspects, they might be in for a shock against portland state. I am still optimistic about the game, but I also know if we play like we did last week, we could get beat by 30.



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Post by CatFamily » Tue Oct 11, 2005 12:40 pm

The Bobcats are due to start their turn around and make some noise. I hope it is in Portland. I still believe defensively we will give up some points but not give up the big plays and be okay. Offensively, there needs to be some other people involved in the offensive production, and we get it this weekend... the receivers will be play big after an off day at Weber. Scores and stats etc. give the edge to PSU... but I still believe in this team and that it has a special mission that it will accomplish... Babcats 35-28.

Rooting for the Griz... but gut feeling says EWU shows why they are still the team to beat in the conference... EWU wins 28-20... go get em though Griz.


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Post by CelticCat » Tue Oct 11, 2005 12:56 pm

I spent at least a day thinking about those two predictions, they were awfully hard to call.

They both could EASILY go the other way. They could also both be blowouts by either team. With the way IAA has shook down this year, any given Saturday is more true than ever.


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Post by El_Gato » Tue Oct 11, 2005 3:44 pm

I'm going to hopefully calm the nerves of those predicting a narrow Cat loss this week.

Yes, Rubin has racked up the most yards of any back we've faced to date; BUT he IS PSU's running game and he IS pretty much their entire offense.

Looking at the rushing stats of the "rushing teams" we've played thus far, PSU's ground game is no more potent than any of the others we've already BEATEN.

Team_________________Total Rushing Yards

Weber St.__________________1052
North Dakota St.____________1013
Idaho St.__________________1019
Portland St.________________1065

Yes, we've given up a lot of yards on the ground BUT we've beaten each of the first 3 running teams we've faced. And I think we all agree that the narrow wins vs ISU and WSU SHOULD HAVE been easier wins for the Cats. The news gets even better when you realize that PSU's passing offense is WORSE than any of the 3 teams we've already played.

Team___________________Total Passing Yards

Weber St._______________1368
North Dakota St.__________909
Idaho St.________________1254
Portland St.______________813


So the PSU offense, overall, appears to be LESS potent than the 3 teams we've just beaten.

I'm not saying that PSU isn't good and I'm not about to predict a blowout by the Cats; I'm simply pointing out that the "Rubin" factor has perhaps been a bit over-hyped.

I expect our D will give up 150-175 rushing yards to Rubin/PSU, but if we hold them to around their average through the air (135.5 yards/game), then I think our D will once again give us a decent chance to win the game. Heck, even if we give up 200 running and 140 passing, 340 total yards is only 25 more than Eastern gave them. The key, as always, will be preventing/limiting the BIG gains for scores...


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Post by CatFamily » Tue Oct 11, 2005 3:53 pm

El Gato.... thanks for putting things into perspective! As I stated earlier too I think our defense is a bend not break D and if they can maintain that and not give up the big one... we will WIN! PSU's defense has given up some point and yards this year and I still believe the O is about to break loose. Thanks again for the comparative analysis!


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Post by iaafan » Tue Oct 11, 2005 4:30 pm

Rubin was 40-182 vs. EW. Kennett is a good blocker at fullback and I'm pretty sure that's the set they run out of. Against EW they had a punt return for TD or they would've likely been blown out. It was 14-3 when that happened, then PSU rode the mo to a 24-21 lead before Cole took over for EW.
The PSU qb was 10-28 114 yds. So PSU needs to run well and get an early lead. Like any running team falling behind is curtains. Had that punt return not happened PSU probably would've been forced to pass.
Their defense looks pretty good. Other than Cole exploding in the fourth quarter, they've been solid.



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Post by Kadeezy » Tue Oct 11, 2005 5:08 pm

What makes you say that Chris Hurd is immobile?



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Post by CelticCat » Tue Oct 11, 2005 6:23 pm

Hurd has 70 yards in 6 games on 32 carries, one those on a 39 yard scamper.

He might get a few yards here and there, but you aren't going to assign someone to spy on the QB with Hurd under center. Immobile might have been too harsh.


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Post by BobCatFan » Tue Oct 11, 2005 8:51 pm

CatFamily wrote: I still believe defensively we will give up some points but not give up the big plays and be okay.
How can you think. We have been giving up big plays on 3rd down all season. If we can stop the d%* penalties on 3rd down, then we might get the ball back.

Also, we have been getting burned with the long pass at least 2 times per game. Granted, the coverage has been near prefect on some of these, but the pattern is there for others to follow.



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Post by BelgradeBobcat » Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:20 pm

The games are tough this week-each one could go either way.

Bobcats vs Vikings: My heart says MSU 27-PSU 14. My head says MSU 21-PSU 24. I don't have much comfort level with this game. I think it may hearken back to the Hysell days when we got blown out at Civic Stadium 44-0 with what we thought was a pretty decent Bobcat team.

Eagles vs griz: A hot EWU team went into Washington-griz stadium 2 years ago and laid an egg. I think the same happens this week. Montana defense rises to the occaision 24-10.

Hornets vs Wildcats: I could really go either way on this one. Weber could be down after 2 heartbreakers. Fosmark looked a little banged up at the end of the MSU game. But the Wildcats aren't bad, and they're at home so I'll pick them 32-30. By the way I'm a Brady Fosmark fan-what a great player and competitor.



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Post by grizzh8r » Wed Oct 12, 2005 12:52 am

WYCAT wrote:Can't argue with much there Celtic. It doesn't take Lee Corso and Kirk Herbstreit to analyze this matchup. Our inability to stop anyone's running game vs. Joe Rubin - the leading rusher in IAA. We have made everyone look good running against us this year and this guy obviously doesn't need any help. Our only chance, IMHO, is to play a nearly perfect game - score every trip to the redzone, win the TO battle, and don't give up any easy yards or scores with penalties, missed tackles, etc. If we can make Rubin and Co. earn every yard and take care of business on offense we can win this one. I don't know why we struggle so much on the road because at OSU in game one I never once saw us affected by the crowd and their is no comparison to that stadium and it's overall hostile environment to either WSU or PSU. With a bye week coming up this is a huge opportunity for us. Find a way to win and we are sitting at 5-2 & 3-0 in the BSC with 3 of the last 4 at home. I would probably tap PSU as a slight favorite as well but my only solice is that Travis really hasn't had a game up to his full potential yet this season. If he can do that and we don't fall behind early (very important I think - see Poly) I think we pull out another nailbiter.
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1) We went into the OSU game with absolutely noting to lose.

2) Conference road games are a much bigger mental burden than non-conf. games

3) See #2


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Post by CARDIAC_CATS » Wed Oct 12, 2005 8:08 am

El_Gato wrote:I'm going to hopefully calm the nerves of those predicting a narrow Cat loss this week.

Yes, Rubin has racked up the most yards of any back we've faced to date; BUT he IS PSU's running game and he IS pretty much their entire offense.

Looking at the rushing stats of the "rushing teams" we've played thus far, PSU's ground game is no more potent than any of the others we've already BEATEN.

Team_________________Total Rushing Yards

Weber St.__________________1052
North Dakota St.____________1013
Idaho St.__________________1019
Portland St.________________1065

Yes, we've given up a lot of yards on the ground BUT we've beaten each of the first 3 running teams we've faced. And I think we all agree that the narrow wins vs ISU and WSU SHOULD HAVE been easier wins for the Cats. The news gets even better when you realize that PSU's passing offense is WORSE than any of the 3 teams we've already played.

Team___________________Total Passing Yards

Weber St._______________1368
North Dakota St.__________909
Idaho St.________________1254
Portland St.______________813


So the PSU offense, overall, appears to be LESS potent than the 3 teams we've just beaten.

I'm not saying that PSU isn't good and I'm not about to predict a blowout by the Cats; I'm simply pointing out that the "Rubin" factor has perhaps been a bit over-hyped.

I expect our D will give up 150-175 rushing yards to Rubin/PSU, but if we hold them to around their average through the air (135.5 yards/game), then I think our D will once again give us a decent chance to win the game. Heck, even if we give up 200 running and 140 passing, 340 total yards is only 25 more than Eastern gave them. The key, as always, will be preventing/limiting the BIG gains for scores...
Totally agree! PSU has a very good running game but so have a lot of other teams we have faced this year. If we give up 150-175 on the ground that is fine as long as we can get PSU off the field on some 3rd downs. 1st down is very important and we need to stuff the run on 1st down AS MUCH as we can so we can get them into 2nd and 3rd and long. Get them off the field and let our offense go to work. Our offense cannot have another first half like in the weber game or it will be tough to come back. We need to make some stops early and put some points up on the board and get PSU into one dimensional passing mode which they do not like to do.



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Post by catsrback76 » Wed Oct 12, 2005 9:09 am

This is the weekend to seperate the men from the boys! The PSU game is obviously going to be won or lost in the trenches. It is going to be our O Line having a better day at creating seams for Groves/Dom to get 75-100yards (somehow : ) )-- Hurry back M Bass.

This contest will be won as we all know by the D. I like our D when they "feel the pressure". They ain't felt the pressure until the 2nd half of every game they play. Why? Who knows. But from the opening kick off I want to see the D "fly around and hit someone" ( Jack Johnsonism) They did that in the 2nd half last week and we won. BUT... If they play at all tentatively we lose.
The offense will do what it does- score.............eventually...... and we will score 35 this week. Mark it!

The men will step up and play with intensity while the boys will simply play a game of football.

I have a thought that EWU will stack the box and stop Hilliard before he squares his shoulders. That will make the QB have to beat the Eagles and Washington or BQuist are not going to be able to do that. Hilliard held to 75 yards and the Eagles will beat the Griz in Msla. By 14.

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Post by jagur1 » Wed Oct 12, 2005 9:14 am

catsrback76 have the Griz ever lost at Wash-Griz by even 10 points? Hell in the 16 home loses the total might not be 14. I'm not saying the Griz will win but I'm saying they won't lose by 14.

Let me think back 3 to NDSU, 1 to Youngstown, 3 to Western Ill, 1 to Delaware, 3 to Hofstra....This may take awhile. Maybe you're just trying to be funny.


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Post by Platinumcat » Wed Oct 12, 2005 9:20 am

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CatFamily wrote: I still believe defensively we will give up some points but not give up the big plays and be okay.
How can you think. We have been giving up big plays on 3rd down all season. If we can stop the d%* penalties on 3rd down, then we might get the ball back.

Also, we have been getting burned with the long pass at least 2 times per game. Granted, the coverage has been near prefect on some of these, but the pattern is there for others to follow.
My take on a big play is +25 from the line of scrimmage. To my knowledge the run D has only allowed 2-3 plays that went for that or more this season. So, if we can limit this (particularly for touchdowns) I do see us holding them to under 200 yards. Weber got over 200 yards last weekend because they had a pass offense to go with their run. If Portland's passing is as poor as scouted, I see us stacking the box like we did against NDSU. If successfull, we win.

catsrback76 said it right! Use any phrase you want: bring the big dog mentality, play like men, elevate to Lulay's play, etc. Bring the nasty fellas!



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