Once again the Griz are making plays

[CPACAT]

I hear that the refs had a good game for the griz.

Not sure what you mean about the refs. What happened?

Same method, different year. UM scores every way imaginable.

Apparently there were holds and take downs all game that weren't called. And at the end of the game there was a UC Davis pass in which there was a pass interference right in front of the ref that he didn't call. A lot of people were complaining about it on AGS.

Even the griz radio announcers, Gurnsey and Holein, said it was an obvious pass interference and could not believe the griz got away with it. I could not believe that was coming out of their mouths yestereday. They had a copule of calls where they counded impartial. Kind of freaked me out.

[GrizinWashington]

Gawd it sure is a good thing that evry referee in the world is a Griz fan so that they get ALL the calls to go their way.

(sh_t. If anything, there's an anti-Griz bias in the league)

[AlphaGriz1]

I agree with Alpha. That's called PI about 25% of the time at best. And no way should the official call it there. It was a good defensive play. Just as I say about the very-easily-could-have-been-called-PI on UCD in the end zone earlier in the quarter. That shouldn't have been called either, although it CERTAINLY could have been.

And is the Griz offense and defense really just average? I have a tough time buying that given the results after 3 games.

Remember that assessment is coming from a completely objective cat fan.

There are no bigger Griz fans than I. I only root for the cats in the playoffs.


Your just a kool-aid drinker that can't stand objectivity when it comes to looking at our Griz football team.

[griz5700]

Get off Quinn. It's football. A physical, intenes game, Im glad we have him. He defends our players, if other teams have an issue with him they can take care of it. that's the beauty of football. the guy is intense, and that style of play will make him some money on Sundays. Just the way it is.

[AlphaGriz1]

Get off Quinn. It's football. A physical, intenes game, Im glad we have him. He defends our players, if other teams have an issue with him they can take care of it. that's the beauty of football. the guy is intense, and that style of play will make him some money on Sundays. Just the way it is.

Your wrong, Quinn may get a shot at the NFL but if he continues to make stupid mistakes and personal fouls he will last as long as Balogh did. they don't put up with that sh*t to long.

[Shakermaker]

I hear that the refs had a good game for the griz.

Not sure what you mean about the refs. What happened?

Same method, different year. UM scores every way imaginable.

Apparently there were holds and take downs all game that weren't called. And at the end of the game there was a UC Davis pass in which there was a pass interference right in front of the ref that he didn't call. A lot of people were complaining about it on AGS.

Even the griz radio announcers, Gurnsey and Holein, said it was an obvious pass interference and could not believe the griz got away with it. I could not believe that was coming out of their mouths yestereday. They had a copule of calls where they counded impartial. Kind of freaked me out.

And your point is? Did you watch the game? Could have gone either way. If the game was at UC Davis, yeah, yeah, it may have been called. Maybe. It was a damned if you do damned if you don't call. It's the past now. Look to your next game and don't dwell on another team's fortune. Their fortune I might add was built over the years and not given.

[Billings Cat]

I'm not saying that the griz own the refs but they were the benifit of some no calls today,

A big time hold on the edge for the first TD
A hold of a player from recovering a blocked punt.
2 PI calls not made in the final minute.
JD quinn is a dirty late hitting player.

BSC officals suck

Pretty much what I saw as well. Some pretty bad officiating at best. Nice no call on the mugging on the last play.

I watched the game at the stadium and then on TV (DVR) so I could see replays, the last call you guys are talking about was not pass interference. Fisher timed it very well and he may have got there a pico second early but it was a good no call. Have I ever seen something like that called? Hell yes but it was very insignificant and Fisher did bat the ball while making the play.

Could it have been called? Yes, refs have called way less.

Should it have been called? IMO no, and I am not saying that because I am a Griz fan, I can be unbiased about things like that.

I think I said it on the other board but I agree that the no call PI on 4th down was questionable, but the no PI call on 3 down when the reciever caught the ball dragging a griz db with his shirt streched out a foot was a bad no call, you can still call PI when the reciever catches the ball and if that blatent no call had been the other way then UCD would have had a 1st down and the game may very well have ended differently.



Note the ref in the forground watching the reciever drag the DB

Get a life. What is this supposed to be, the Zapruder film! Next are you going to show the 2nd hold on the grassy knoll? The game is over and no amount of whining is going to change anything. The Bobcats only have one team to worry about and that's the Bobcats...

[Old Skool Cat]

I was also at the game in Missoula Saturday. Here are my observations:

1. The griz find ways to win. While other teams shoot themselves in the foot late in games, UM has an uncanny ability to not hit the panic button, and rally for the W. I attribute this to very good coaching.
2. The griz take care of the ball. We all know that turnovers kill, and that was the big difference in the game Saturday, with UC Davis' turnover leading to an easy griz TD. I also attribute this to very good coaching.
3. Is this the best UM team in a while? Maybe not, but it appears that they play better as a team than past griz teams. So any holes they may have will be filled by others stepping up.
4. Berquist better hope that Mariani doesn't go down. The former Havre Blue Pony is a stud! He is always open and catches everything you throw to him. In fact, the entire griz receiving core is pretty talented.
5. You can throw against the griz secondary. Granted, Davis has a real talented QB (who is only a sophomore) and real good set of tall receivers. But the griz are playing a true freshman at one corner and a JC transfer at the other corner. Colt is a hitter, quick, and covers some of the mistakes from the corners, but until they mature a little, the pass is open.
6. If Schmidt does not heal up soon, the griz will struggle a little with their run game. TBF is okay, but I wouldn't want to rest my laurels on him.
7. It is strange, if not bizarre, to watch the griz struggle with the kick game. After so many years with their kickers being damn-near automatic, this is one area that they really have some troubles with.
8. Last, but not least, JD Quinn is an a$$-wipe. He got called for one late hit, but I also saw him get away with a chop block and another late hit. He is really not that talented and gets beat quite often, and then retaliates with something dirty. It is amazing that Hauck wants this on his team, and Quinn's play may wind up hurting the team later on in a real close ballgame.

[CPACAT]

I hear that the refs had a good game for the griz.

Not sure what you mean about the refs. What happened?

Same method, different year. UM scores every way imaginable.

Apparently there were holds and take downs all game that weren't called. And at the end of the game there was a UC Davis pass in which there was a pass interference right in front of the ref that he didn't call. A lot of people were complaining about it on AGS.

Even the griz radio announcers, Gurnsey and Holein, said it was an obvious pass interference and could not believe the griz got away with it. I could not believe that was coming out of their mouths yestereday. They had a copule of calls where they counded impartial. Kind of freaked me out.

And your point is? Did you watch the game? Could have gone either way. If the game was at UC Davis, yeah, yeah, it may have been called. Maybe. It was a damned if you do damned if you don't call. It's the past now. Look to your next game and don't dwell on another team's fortune. Their fortune I might add was built over the years and not given.

No, I did not watch the game. I listened to it on the radio. I guess my point wasn't so much that the refs did or did not blow a call but that for the first time I can recall, Gurnsey and Holein admitted that the griz may have committed a penalty. One call does not a game make. It may or may not have been a penalty. I don't give sh!t. It was however interesting listening to the game call on the radio. It sounded to me as if they were told to tone down the homer calls.

[cats2506]

Just to clear somthing up here.

I got started on the ref thing after watching the game begause several griz fans (not necessarly on this board) were pushing the thought that UCD was dirty and that UCD benifited from the bad refs, I saw the oposite in the game that I watched.

I do not beilieve that the um had an in with the refs, I know that Big Sky refs suck.

[Common Cat]

[quote="GrizinWashington"]Gawd it sure is a good thing that evry referee in the world is a Griz fan so that they get ALL the calls to go their way.

(sh_t. If anything, there's an anti-Griz bias in the league)[/quote]


You've got to be kidding right? I mean you're dumb but not that dumb.

[CARDIAC_CATS]

I'm not saying that the griz own the refs but they were the benifit of some no calls today,

A big time hold on the edge for the first TD
A hold of a player from recovering a blocked punt.
2 PI calls not made in the final minute.
JD quinn is a dirty late hitting player.

BSC officals suck

Pretty much what I saw as well. Some pretty bad officiating at best. Nice no call on the mugging on the last play.

I watched the game at the stadium and then on TV (DVR) so I could see replays, the last call you guys are talking about was not pass interference. Fisher timed it very well and he may have got there a pico second early but it was a good no call. Have I ever seen something like that called? Hell yes but it was very insignificant and Fisher did bat the ball while making the play.

Could it have been called? Yes, refs have called way less.

Should it have been called? IMO no, and I am not saying that because I am a Griz fan, I can be unbiased about things like that.

I think I said it on the other board but I agree that the no call PI on 4th down was questionable, but the no PI call on 3 down when the reciever caught the ball dragging a griz db with his shirt streched out a foot was a bad no call, you can still call PI when the reciever catches the ball and if that blatent no call had been the other way then UCD would have had a 1st down and the game may very well have ended differently.



Note the ref in the forground watching the reciever drag the DB

That is an optical illusion. The WR just had sprayed starch on their jersey to make it stick out and look like the Griz DB was grabbing it There we so many NON CALL penalties on the Griz in that game I stopped keeping track. No wonder they love to play all their games at home. I seem to remember 2 face masks on our TE in the 2006 Cat/Griz game as well that weren't call either. (PLAIN AS DAY IN TRIBUNE THE NEXT DAY - BLATANTLY OBVIOUS)

Whatever it takes I guess.

[GrizinWashington]

Gawd it sure is a good thing that evry referee in the world is a Griz fan so that they get ALL the calls to go their way.

(sh_t. If anything, there's an anti-Griz bias in the league)[/quote]


You've got to be kidding right? I mean you're dumb but not that dumb.

I could not be any more fuc7ing serious than a heart attack.

There's an anti-Griz bias in this league, and everyone knows it. And the officials certainly call it. (if you have any questions about the validity of my statement, please carefully watch the last 4 minutes of the UM/EWU game from last year. Replay the infamous "punt penalty", that has NEVER been called in the history of the game, and certainly had NO business being called there).

[grizzh8r]

Gawd it sure is a good thing that evry referee in the world is a Griz fan so that they get ALL the calls to go their way.

(sh_t. If anything, there's an anti-Griz bias in the league)[/quote]


You've got to be kidding right? I mean you're dumb but not that dumb.

I could not be any more fuc7ing serious than a heart attack.

There's an anti-Griz bias in this league, and everyone knows it. And the officials certainly call it. (if you have any questions about the validity of my statement, please carefully watch the last 4 minutes of the UM/EWU game from last year. Replay the infamous "punt penalty", that has NEVER been called in the history of the game, and certainly had NO business being called there).

So, one call in one game makes the refs anti-Griz?

BWAHAAHHAHAH!

Good one!

You know damn well the Griz get the benefit of the doubt on calls (or no-calls) in WGS. It has been proven over and over and over again. Last weekend was a prime example. Cat/Griz 2006 was another one, and I seem to recall no-calls in both the 2005 and 2007 games vs Weber @ WGS.

[GrizinWashington]

Yep. About as much as one call "for" the Griz makes the officials "WIN" the game for the Griz.

Look. Calls go both ways. For and against the Griz. Rational posters on this board understand that, and they understand that the Gris overcome calls that go against them, and take advantage of calls that go for them. That's what winners do.

However, if you believe the Griz get ANY benefit from officiating in this league, I have to laugh.

[Billings_Griz]

Nice words OSC.

I was also at the game in Missoula Saturday. Here are my observations:


4. Berquist better hope that Mariani doesn't go down. The former Havre Blue Pony is a stud! He is always open and catches everything you throw to him. In fact, the entire griz receiving core is pretty talented. Crazy good. And a MT kid to boot.

5. You can throw against the griz secondary. Granted, Davis has a real talented QB (who is only a sophomore) and real good set of tall receivers. But the griz are playing a true freshman at one corner and a JC transfer at the other corner. Colt is a hitter, quick, and covers some of the mistakes from the corners, but until they mature a little, the pass is open. 31 Completions for 250-260, not like he killed us long, however, he killed us. Just like EWU last year, they killed us w/ the short passes. Even thou it's a pass, its like someone running it down our throat. Either screen passes or curl routes...all damn day long.

6. If Schmidt does not heal up soon, the griz will struggle a little with their run game. TBF is okay, but I wouldn't want to rest my laurels on him. Chase Reynolds. His feet NEVER stop moving. Schmidt or Reynolds, IMO.

7. It is strange, if not bizarre, to watch the griz struggle with the kick game. After so many years with their kickers being damn-near automatic, this is one area that they really have some troubles with. We will lose a game or two if this doesn't get figured out.


8. Last, but not least, JD Quinn is an a$$-wipe. He got called for one late hit, but I also saw him get away with a chop block and another late hit. He is really not that talented and gets beat quite often, and then retaliates with something dirty. It is amazing that Hauck wants this on his team, and Quinn's play may wind up hurting the team later on in a real close ballgame.

A$$-wipe? Why you being so nice? He's a ticking time-bomb...With that said, I'm glad he's on our team.

[Common Cat]

Yep. About as much as one call "for" the Griz makes the officials "WIN" the game for the Griz.

Look. Calls go both ways. For and against the Griz. Rational posters on this board understand that, and they understand that the Gris overcome calls that go against them, and take advantage of calls that go for them. That's what winners do.

However, if you believe the Griz get ANY benefit from officiating in this league, I have to laugh.

I would agree with you that rational posters on this board understand how the griz are oportunistic. But you my friend are one of the least rational griz posters on this board. I've been and watched plenty of games in WaGriz and there are too many calls that go the griz way, that it is just uncanny.

[cats2506]

Gawd it sure is a good thing that evry referee in the world is a Griz fan so that they get ALL the calls to go their way.

(sh_t. If anything, there's an anti-Griz bias in the league)[/quote]


You've got to be kidding right? I mean you're dumb but not that dumb.

I could not be any more fuc7ing serious than a heart attack.

There's an anti-Griz bias in this league, and everyone knows it. And the officials certainly call it. (if you have any questions about the validity of my statement, please carefully watch the last 4 minutes of the UM/EWU game from last year. Replay the infamous "punt penalty", that has NEVER been called in the history of the game, and certainly had NO business being called there).

Whoa there D!cKheadinWashington, that call has been made in other games, it is illegel to line up directly over the longsnapper, is it anti-griz bias that you and apparently the special teams coach dont know that it is illegal.

[Shakermaker]

gotta hand it to the griz - they find a way to win. also, they don't make many mistakes.

UC Davis is either a very good unranked team or the griz are a little overrated with their rank.

(griz announcers say UC Davis is one of the best FCS team around . . . )

We all know that's not true. It's MSU

man, you griz fans are sensitive. can't take a compliment or a very rational comment without being upset OR obsessed with the CATS. wow.

I'm looking at your last comment in (). I just turned it around on you and you got all sensitive. You can say what you want about the game or the Griz. Nothing we haven't heard before over the last umpteen years.

[BigBruceBaker]

Im a little late the the discussion but.

I have ALWAYS felt, and especially felt, under Kramer and other years that calls have consistently gone against the cats. I am not a typical student fan that boos on the obvious ones, but it seems to me the calls are consistently bad and they target us.

Also i have noticed that the Griz to seem to get more of the good calls...and calls that favor them.



HOWEVER i am not GIW so obviously most of my views are ignorant and just all around stupid.