Weber St. Postgame Analysis

[catatac]

I'll add a few of my thoughts...

No more punting. Seriously - with our track record over the past 3 games we'd be much beter off just going for it on 4th every time.

Kramer said Bobby Daly is the best defensive player in the Big Sky... he may be right.

Our O obviously didn't click very well against man-to-man coverage... we match up much better with NCU and the Griz!!!

Great Crowd - thanks for the T-Sticks Barechest!

I can't believe where we're at right now, given our early-season implosion... stay focused and take care of NCU on Saturday and Cat\Griz is what we all hoped it would be - for all the marbles!!! I absolutely cannot wait - we will take them down in WA\GRIZ this year, mark my works!

[GrizinWashington]

I absolutely cannot wait - we will take them down in WA\GRIZ this year, mark my works!

Duly noted.

[The Butcher]

I thought Kramers comment was interesting regarding Rolo. He said in his radio interview that Rolo would be kicking himself when he sees the number of receivers that he had open. Kramer also said the Rolo had never played against a man to man defense. I found that hard to believe.

What about the fake punt. Gazarro(sp.) did a hell of a job top pick up the first down.

The game was definitly a strange tempo one.

I am sure we will make adjustments and be ready for UNC.

Kramer's excuse really got under my skin. How can a D-I QB not know how to handle a man-to-man defense? The O-coordinator should have had him more than ready for this game. I hate lame excuses, it would have been better if Kramer wouldn't have said anything at all in my opinion.

[Bleedinbluengold]

I'll add a few of my thoughts...

No more punting. Seriously - with our track record over the past 3 games we'd be much beter off just going for it on 4th every time.

Kramer said Bobby Daly is the best defensive player in the Big Sky... he may be right.

Our O obviously didn't click very well against man-to-man coverage... we match up much better with NCU and the Griz!!!

Great Crowd - thanks for the T-Sticks Barechest!

I can't believe where we're at right now, given our early-season implosion... stay focused and take care of NCU on Saturday and Cat\Griz is what we all hoped it would be - for all the marbles!!! I absolutely cannot wait - we will take them down in WA\GRIZ this year, mark my works!

I had to listen to the game on the radio, so I couldn't tell how we were running our offense. Thus, forgive me if this was already stated or if it somehow sounds idiotic.

That said, the griz offense rolled in Weber because they were passing on first and second downs and in those pass plays, they took full advantage of the height of their wideouts, like Chambers and Bagley to make positive plays. The griz ran on third downs, in general, and other obvious passing downs. My question is, "did we try to ram the ball down 8 men fronts against Weber? It seemed like it on the radio - a lot of running plays called on first down especially. I wonder if Bailey's ego got in the way of designing a game plan. Without first down success, we were relegated to trying to make big yards on 2nd and 3rd downs, which became obvious passing downs. The few times that we ran on obvious passing downs, it seemed like we just did not execute, either the snap count, or the blocks.

In the end, Weber's defense is just, "OK" in my opinion. They run a scheme that basically says, "you can't run on first down." Well, then, why not run some timing routes on first down, get some positive yards, which then puts the pressure on the defense.

Anyway - that's old news - time to fire up for UNC.

[Bleedinbluengold]

I agree Helcat. I also saw Groves come out of the backfield wide open numerous times and Rolo did not see him. I also felt like he was looking way downfield too much/too long. I did not feel like our O-line was doing that great a job in pass protection either and the very long routes did not help much here either.

Well, given the NAU, CSUS and ISU games, if you are any team in the future, you are going to make Rolo check down, or get sacked, or throw interceptions. Even if that means dropping your LBs 15 yards.

Thus, Rolo should remember he has other shorter options and remember to just make positive plays...be patient.

[CARDIAC_CATS]

I thought Kramers comment was interesting regarding Rolo. He said in his radio interview that Rolo would be kicking himself when he sees the number of receivers that he had open. Kramer also said the Rolo had never played against a man to man defense. I found that hard to believe.

What about the fake punt. Gazarro(sp.) did a hell of a job top pick up the first down.

The game was definitly a strange tempo one.

I am sure we will make adjustments and be ready for UNC.

Kramer's excuse really got under my skin. How can a D-I QB not know how to handle a man-to-man defense? The O-coordinator should have had him more than ready for this game. I hate lame excuses, it would have been better if Kramer wouldn't have said anything at all in my opinion.

They better practice up on it in practice then as I bet we get both zone and man to man thrown on us against the Griz. They will watch tape of this game I'm sure and see that it slowed us down some. Rolo needs to really look at the film this week and learn in the next 2 weeks where his dump off guys are (especially RB's) as we had a lot of times where RB's flared out to the flat and he could have hit them. I'm sure he is learning and will get better but hopefully he looks at the film on that and see he can get some good yards on those type dump offs (especially on blitzes).

[BobcatLionFan]

I agree Helcat. I also saw Groves come out of the backfield wide open numerous times and Rolo did not see him. I also felt like he was looking way downfield too much/too long. I did not feel like our O-line was doing that great a job in pass protection either and the very long routes did not help much here either.

Interesting how people see different things. What I saw was Rolo looked at the primary receiver, then starting moving out of the pocket before he was pressed. He didn't just step up and look at the 2nd and 3rd. Jefferson was wide open on two or three plays (regardless of what WSU coach thrashed Jefferson in the paper on). Then Rolo looked at the TEs almost all the time as he moved away from the pocket. He was only sacked once in the pocket and wasn't pressured there otherwise, it was all on the outside. Being in the pocket with people all around and not being touched is not being pressured. The OL can't do much if he moves out of the pocket. Watch the game again if you have it on tape.

The D played a great game. The 5 or 6 sacks is a really high number. Actually the QB scrambled several times because of presure and got back to the Line of Scrimage (thus no sack) on those couple, but it was as good as a sack..

On Beach's interception, someone has said it was a mistake by their QB. However, you need to realize that was a pass they had been making all first half and 3rd Quarter. They lived on the out passes. So it wasn't a poor pass, the reciever was there. They were just making the pass to often. The D just played tighter in the 2nd half and moved in on that play. So does WSU not throw that pass all game, or just have one picked (which happens on outs if you never go down field, which WSU didn't).

The Cats were taking away the run and anything deep or across the middle. Thus the out was open and they got a large number of yards going there. However, it does get burned when that is the only play being made over and over.

The one they did go down field on in the 4th Q, that was pure wind. I was watching from behind the play and it was on-line, then once the ball passed the end of the Grandstands (where the wind then affected the ball) it moved 5 yards to the right towards the sideline. Was a great pass until the wind took it. Then there was no way for the receiver to get to it.

I was really disappointed with The WSU coach in the paper. Very few coaches cross the line and dish on the other team's players. They typically just buildup their own. When he said his Kentucky transfer played well, that was fine, but then going on and saying Jefferson was average or below average, that was NO Class. His team has all the best players, yet they are 2 and 6. Seems if they have the best players, something else must be holding them back (maybe their coaches?)
Just really disappointed by the lack of class on that statement.

[Robcat]

I agree Helcat. I also saw Groves come out of the backfield wide open numerous times and Rolo did not see him. I also felt like he was looking way downfield too much/too long. I did not feel like our O-line was doing that great a job in pass protection either and the very long routes did not help much here either.

Interesting how people see different things. What I saw was Rolo looked at the primary receiver, then starting moving out of the pocket before he was pressed. He didn't just step up and look at the 2nd and 3rd. Jefferson was wide open on two or three plays (regardless of what WSU coach thrashed Jefferson in the paper on). Then Rolo looked at the TEs almost all the time as he moved away from the pocket. He was only sacked once in the pocket and wasn't pressured there otherwise, it was all on the outside. Being in the pocket with people all around and not being touched is not being pressured. The OL can't do much if he moves out of the pocket. Watch the game again if you have it on tape.

The D played a great game. The 5 or 6 sacks is a really high number. Actually the QB scrambled several times because of presure and got back to the Line of Scrimage (thus no sack) on those couple, but it was as good as a sack..

On Beach's interception, someone has said it was a mistake by their QB. However, you need to realize that was a pass they had been making all first half and 3rd Quarter. They lived on the out passes. So it wasn't a poor pass, the reciever was there. They were just making the pass to often. The D just played tighter in the 2nd half and moved in on that play. So does WSU not throw that pass all game, or just have one picked (which happens on outs if you never go down field, which WSU didn't).

The Cats were taking away the run and anything deep or across the middle. Thus the out was open and they got a large number of yards going there. However, it does get burned when that is the only play being made over and over.

The one they did go down field on in the 4th Q, that was pure wind. I was watching from behind the play and it was on-line, then once the ball passed the end of the Grandstands (where the wind then affected the ball) it moved 5 yards to the right towards the sideline. Was a great pass until the wind took it. Then there was no way for the receiver to get to it.

I was really disappointed with The WSU coach in the paper. Very few coaches cross the line and dish on the other team's players. They typically just buildup their own. When he said his Kentucky transfer played well, that was fine, but then going on and saying Jefferson was average or below average, that was NO Class. His team has all the best players, yet they are 2 and 6. Seems if they have the best players, something else must be holding them back (maybe their coaches?)
Just really disappointed by the lack of class on that statement.

Bobcatlion, we watched the same game. Jefferson was open on MOST plays and for whatever reason Rolo would not go to him. Jefferson can make the big plays and if Rollo would have passed to him I am sure the WSU Coach would have been singing a differant tune. WSU did not shut Jefferson down, Rollo shut Jefferson down.

[Platinumcat]

I agree Helcat. I also saw Groves come out of the backfield wide open numerous times and Rolo did not see him. I also felt like he was looking way downfield too much/too long. I did not feel like our O-line was doing that great a job in pass protection either and the very long routes did not help much here either.

Interesting how people see different things. What I saw was Rolo looked at the primary receiver, then starting moving out of the pocket before he was pressed. He didn't just step up and look at the 2nd and 3rd. Jefferson was wide open on two or three plays (regardless of what WSU coach thrashed Jefferson in the paper on). Then Rolo looked at the TEs almost all the time as he moved away from the pocket. He was only sacked once in the pocket and wasn't pressured there otherwise, it was all on the outside. Being in the pocket with people all around and not being touched is not being pressured. The OL can't do much if he moves out of the pocket. Watch the game again if you have it on tape.

The D played a great game. The 5 or 6 sacks is a really high number. Actually the QB scrambled several times because of presure and got back to the Line of Scrimage (thus no sack) on those couple, but it was as good as a sack..

On Beach's interception, someone has said it was a mistake by their QB. However, you need to realize that was a pass they had been making all first half and 3rd Quarter. They lived on the out passes. So it wasn't a poor pass, the reciever was there. They were just making the pass to often. The D just played tighter in the 2nd half and moved in on that play. So does WSU not throw that pass all game, or just have one picked (which happens on outs if you never go down field, which WSU didn't).

The Cats were taking away the run and anything deep or across the middle. Thus the out was open and they got a large number of yards going there. However, it does get burned when that is the only play being made over and over.

The one they did go down field on in the 4th Q, that was pure wind. I was watching from behind the play and it was on-line, then once the ball passed the end of the Grandstands (where the wind then affected the ball) it moved 5 yards to the right towards the sideline. Was a great pass until the wind took it. Then there was no way for the receiver to get to it.

I was really disappointed with The WSU coach in the paper. Very few coaches cross the line and dish on the other team's players. They typically just buildup their own. When he said his Kentucky transfer played well, that was fine, but then going on and saying Jefferson was average or below average, that was NO Class. His team has all the best players, yet they are 2 and 6. Seems if they have the best players, something else must be holding them back (maybe their coaches?)
Just really disappointed by the lack of class on that statement.

Which is why, IMO, Kramer sometimes says the things he says. To me, it's mostly being humble, or pointed comments that seem to have meaning other then their face value.