Refs revisited

BozoneCat · Post by **BozoneCat** » Sat Nov 13, 2004 7:50 pm

Didn't want these jackasses starting to feel lonely. Let Fullerton the Idiot hear the wrath of Bobcat Nation this week!!!

C'mon, Cat fans, let's give the Big Sky some feedback (yet AGAIN) and let them know that we will not continue to accept this poor refereeing!!!

http://bigskyconf.com/feedback.asp

And, to Doug Toole, director of Big Sky football officials: http://www.bigskyconf.com/article.asp?articleid=2393

Eagle_Power04 · Post by **Eagle_Power04** » Sat Nov 13, 2004 7:52 pm

Oh come on. Please don't tell me you're blaiming this loss on the refs.

BozoneCat · Post by **BozoneCat** » Sat Nov 13, 2004 8:06 pm

Did you actually watch or listen to the game? Case example #1: our defensive end being tackled and held to the ground while Meyer threw the winning TD pass. I can get you a tape of the game if you like.

I hate blaming a loss on the refs, and I truly hear what you are saying, but in a game that was this close, they made the ultimate difference. I know our guys didn't make the plays when they needed to, but I think had this game been competently reffed, it never would have come down to an OT. They were absolutely horrible, even by Big Sky standards. I saw our defensive players' jerseys two feet away from their bodies ALL DAY, and it was never called once. This was a joke, and I am disgusted.

CelticCat · Post by **CelticCat** » Sat Nov 13, 2004 9:01 pm

BozoneCat wrote:Did you actually watch or listen to the game? Case example #1: our defensive end being tackled and held to the ground while Meyer threw the winning TD pass. I can get you a tape of the game if you like.

I hate blaming a loss on the refs, and I truly hear what you are saying, but in a game that was this close, they made the ultimate difference. I know our guys didn't make the plays when they needed to, but I think had this game been competently reffed, it never would have come down to an OT. They were absolutely horrible, even by Big Sky standards. I saw our defensive players' jerseys two feet away from their bodies ALL DAY, and it was never called once. This was a joke, and I am disgusted.

I couldn't agree more. I haven't posted till now because I was beyond pissed off at the refs. They handed the game to EWU, plain and simple. I can count numerous times they refused to throw the flag at anything the Eagles did. I too don't blame losses on refs usually, but they totally bent us over and gave Eastern the game, plain and simple. Hell I'm still not calm over that attempt at refereeing, so I'm done posting for a few days.

I am sending Fullerton as many emails as I possibly can. I'm sick of this horrible excuse for an officiating crew, any of the crews for the BSC.

94VegasCat · Post by **94VegasCat** » Sat Nov 13, 2004 10:09 pm

I only listened to the internet feed, and could here the crowd moaning and groaning. One certain announcer was groaning all day as well. My brother was at the game and called me several times to say that the CATS were getting hosed with all of the no calls. RAW DEAL. We had the BSC Title stolen from us, at home, by the zebras. Yeah, we missed a lot of our own oppurtunities, but how many drives by them were continued by PI's or stopped by no PI on them. Late hits out of bounds! Holding?!?

Great job zebes.

spider · Post by **spider** » Sat Nov 13, 2004 10:33 pm

The refs were pathetic. The pass interference call on Austin that turned into EWU's first touchdown was horrible. Then in the second half one of their DB's did the same thing to Eddie Sullivan when he was trying to make a catch and nothing was called. Our D-Line was being held, our kickoff team was being held, Chad Gluhm was tackled in OT when EWU scored, the refs didn't call any of it. On one kickoff Cooper blew past his guy and the dude just grabbed his jersey and Cooper towed him all the way down the field.

I don't think we should have even let the game come down to the refs though.

Buttealum · Post by **Buttealum** » Sat Nov 13, 2004 10:41 pm

"Oh come on. Please don't tell me you're blaiming this loss on the refs."
You mustn't have been at the same game that I was at. Those refs should be fired.

MSU01 · Post by **MSU01** » Sat Nov 13, 2004 11:07 pm

The first PI on Austin was (IMO) the correct call. He definitely made contact before the ball got there. The refs didn't lose this game, the Bobcats had every opportunity to win this one but didn't get it done.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » Sun Nov 14, 2004 12:51 am

The best thing that could happen in next week's game (besides a UM win) would be if we flew in refs from a conference OTHER than the Big Sky......Are the Frontier Conference refs busy next week?

CelticCat · Post by **CelticCat** » Sun Nov 14, 2004 1:38 am

Nick wrote:The best thing that could happen in next week's game (besides a UM win) would be if we flew in refs from a conference OTHER than the Big Sky......Are the Frontier Conference refs busy next week?

How bout some high school refs?

BozoneCat · Post by **BozoneCat** » Sun Nov 14, 2004 3:46 am

We could fly in a group of retarded monkeys and they would do much better than these jackasses.

WYCAT · Post by **WYCAT** » Sun Nov 14, 2004 7:44 am

There are always going to be "judgement calls" that fans on either side are going to questions that really are just that - the judgement of the officials. The Austin PI call was made but the one later on Sullivan was not made. Not much you can do about those. In listening yesterday, I will say that most of those went against us though.

The calls that I can't accept are the obvious ones such as on Eastern's second drive on 3rd and medium they broke the huddle with 12 men and nothing was called. There is no judgement factor for this type of play. How different is 3rd and 13 vs. 3rd and 8? Or how about the face mask on the kickoff return in the 3rd quarter they chose not to call. If 13,000 fans can see it from their seats then one or two of the refs should be able to see it from the field. Or the late hit out of bounds on Travis they chose not to call. This is more of a judgement call but if Travis is a good 5 yards out of bounds as Kris said he was, I don't think judgement should be much of a factor here either. Nope, the extent to how much the refs cost us yesterday is a mute argument but no observer can say we got our fare share of call and then some. We had two huge runs by Justin called back on holding and Eastern was flagged for holding once all day with the pressure we were putting on them?

I think the league really has to start implementing some kind of penalty for the outrageous calls - play clock hitting :00, 12 men leaving the huddle, etc. type calls. The judgement ones we will never win that argument.

Eagle_Power04 · Post by **Eagle_Power04** » Sun Nov 14, 2004 9:46 am

I watched the game. There were some questionable calls or no calls on both sides. The officiating was bad. But you know what, all I have to say is what goes around comes around. I was at Joe Albi last year and there were some absolutely ATROCIOUS calls that went against EWU in that game. Despite this, we still managed to pull the game out. I agree that the officiating was poor, but I would not say that this was the difference in the game.

We played the worst first half of football I have seen all year long. Yet, we managed to somehow pull it out in the end. That's what championship teams do. This is our year.

That being said, good luck next weekend. GO BOBCATS beat the Grizz!

HelenaCat · Post by **HelenaCat** » Sun Nov 14, 2004 11:05 am

I REALLY hate blaming anything on the refs. EWU has a great team-at least offensively with Meyers and Kimble and I really hope they do well in the playoffs. But I was at the game and am still outraged with the refs. I can handle bad calls and no calls, as long as they even out for both teams. That was definitely not the case yesterday-just look at the stats. The PI call against Austin was bogus because the pass was uncatchable, but I think the other calls against the Cats were probably legitimate penalties for the most part. But how do you call everything against the Cats closely and nothing against EWU? Four penalties all day in a game like that?? It was just totally one sided and WYCAT does a good job summarizing the most blatant no calls. The officiating in the BSC is just getting worse, but again, I can handle that if it is bad both ways. Yesterday, it was not even.

Cats15 · Post by **Cats15** » Sun Nov 14, 2004 4:19 pm

thats pretty weak if we are going to blame the refs. we had this game in the bag. the refs had nothing to do with it.

Buttealum · Post by **Buttealum** » Sun Nov 14, 2004 8:17 pm

Maybe the best thing to come out of this game is the fact that EVERY EWU fan is now a BOBCAT fan.....

BobCatFan · Post by **BobCatFan** » Sun Nov 14, 2004 8:55 pm

Bozone Cat

I must have been watching the other def end. He was being held too. The EWU player nearly took his hamlet off because the only way he as able to stop the cat player was to grab his facemask.

CelticCat · Post by **CelticCat** » Mon Nov 15, 2004 3:15 am

I'll agree with an earlier post... Meyer scrambled quite a bit, and I saw holding almost every time he did. How many holding calls were called? One?

I will admit though this was the best college FB game I have ever been to, great talent on both sides. True champions fighting to continue their respective seasons.

jagur1 · Post by **jagur1** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 1:14 pm

I agree something has to be done about this.

Post by **kmax** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 1:16 pm

jagur1 wrote:I agree something has to be done about this.

Jag, why are you dragging up a year old post on this when there is already a current one discussing it?