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Cocaine Bust in Billings...Former Players for both teams
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 7:32 pm
by BDizzle
Looks like these players finally got over the whole Montana/Montana State Rivalry.
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A conspiracy that brought nearly 20 pounds of cocaine to Billings and other Montana communities has ensnared at least eight people, including four former and current players and coaches with the Billings Outlaws football organiza-tion.
Former Outlaws defensive back Shon Flores, 32, of Billings, pleaded guilty Wednesday in U.S. District Court to a conspiracy count. He admitted trafficking at least 9 kilos, or almost 20 pounds, of cocaine that came from a source in Salt Lake City.
Some of Flores' customers included business owners, professionals and salesmen in the Billings community, said Assistant U.S. Attorney Jim Seykora. The conspiracy ran from about late summer last year until July.
Flores, Seykora said, was distributing cocaine in Billings, Missoula and elsewhere in the state through co-conspirators that included "a loosely knit group of former and current football players and coaches for the Billings Outlaws.''
Three others associated with the Outlaws pleaded not guilty to cocaine charges during arraignments Wednesday afternoon.
Chase Allyn Raynock, 32, of Billings, the Outlaws' public relations representative and an assistant coach, turned himself in Wednesday. He is charged with conspiracy and with possession with intent to distribute cocaine. He played football at Skyview High School and the University of Montana.
Robert Earl Reed, 34, of Billings, formerly the Outlaws' offensive coordinator and former San Diego Charger, was arrested. Reed said he resigned from his job two weeks ago. He was indicted on conspiracy and distribution charges.
Former Outlaws player and University of Montana Grizzly All-American Andrew James Petek, 31, of Livingston, also appeared after being arrested. He was indicted on conspiracy and possession charges.
Also pleading not guilty to conspiracy charges were Terra Chesarek, 37, of Billings, who turned herself in, and Edward Alvin White II, 29, of Billings, who was arrested. Both were indicted on conspiracy and possession counts.
U.S. Magistrate Judge Carolyn Ostby released all five without bond until trial. They face a possible five years to 40 years in prison and a $2 million fine if convicted. Their cases will be heard by the District Judges Richard Cebull and Jack Shanstrom.
In addition to Flores, two women charged in the case pleaded guilty Wednesday.
Athena Candace Beaumont, 28, of Pryor, and Tara Rauschendorfer, 24, of Billings, who lives with Flores, each admitted conspiracy charges Wednesday for their roles in the trafficking activity.
Flores, Beaumont and Rauschendorfer all reached plea agreements with the government. The prosecutor agreed not to bring other charges in return for their guilty pleas.
Flores, a defensive back, played for the team for six years before leaving in 2006, said his attorney, Vern Woodward. A Hawaii native, Flores played two seasons at West Hills College in California, then was a two-year starter for Mon-tana State University in Bozeman. He was a second-team All-American selection in 1999.
Flores traveled to Salt Lake City on numerous occasions or had others drive there to pick up cocaine for redistribution, Seykora said. Flores got about 20 pounds of cocaine from his supplier, he said. The cocaine was distributed to individuals and groups, including business owners, professionals and salesmen, in Billings, he said. Court records did not identify those persons.
Undercover agents with the FBI and Drug Enforcement Administration made numerous purchases of cocaine from Flores and others.
Flores faces a minimum mandatory sentence of 10 years to life in prison and a maximum $4 million fine. Beaumont and Rauschendorfer face a minimum mandatory five years to 40 years in prison and a maximum $2 million fine.
Chief U. S. District Judge Richard Cebull set Flores' sentencing for Feb. 10 and continued his release without bond. The judge set sentencing for Beaumont and Rauschendorfer for Feb. 4 and also released them without bond.
Re: Cocaine Bust in Billings...Former Players for both teams
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 7:46 pm
by whitetrashgriz
Re: Cocaine Bust in Billings...Former Players for both teams
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 8:01 pm
by wbtfg
It was only a matter of time for both...
Re: Cocaine Bust in Billings...Former Players for both teams
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:48 pm
by TomCat88
Flores, who is from Hawaii, was one of the best safeties in school history. First team all-Big Sky as a junior and senior in 98 and 99. Second Team All-America and played in the Hula Bowl as a senior.
Re: Cocaine Bust in Billings...Former Players for both teams
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:19 pm
by A-Frame
20 pounds? I'd imagine thats gotta be a couple hundred grand worth? Thats quite a bit of cocaine.
Re: Cocaine Bust in Billings...Former Players for both teams
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:08 am
by AlphaGriz1
Its more than a couple hundred grand........try somewhere around $2 mil
Right now in most places in the US it sells for around $80 to $100 a gram.
Re: Cocaine Bust in Billings...Former Players for both teams
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 7:43 am
by tampa_griz
AlphaGriz1 wrote:Its more than a couple hundred grand........try somewhere around $2 mil
Right now in most places in the US it sells for around $80 to $100 a gram.
Not Florida.
Re: Cocaine Bust in Billings...Former Players for both teams
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 11:15 am
by Old Skool Cat
Wonder what this will do the Outlaws organization. Didn't they win some kind of indoor football championship this year? These types of venues really struggle in smaller towns like Billings, and it takes doing everything right for them to exist, so this may be a death knell to the organization. I went to a game last season; pretty cheesy football if you ask me. I wouldn't bother ever going to another game. It's maybe one step up from WWE wrestling; all show. Guess these guys were just living up to the team name.

Re: Cocaine Bust in Billings...Former Players for both teams
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 11:37 am
by LTown Cat
Retarded that the article even mentions that some of these guys are former UM and MSU players. They have been gone for 10 years or nearly 10 years. They just coudn't help themselves from throwing that jab in there.
Re: Cocaine Bust in Billings...Former Players for both teams
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:16 pm
by GrizinWashington
LTown Cat wrote:Retarded that the article even mentions that some of these guys are former UM and MSU players. They have been gone for 10 years or nearly 10 years. They just coudn't help themselves from throwing that jab in there.
I disagree. It's newsworthy and it also helps with partial name recognition. If you're not a huge fan of either team, you may be thinking to yourself as you read the article, "Why is the name Chase Raynock familiar to me?"
Re: Cocaine Bust in Billings...Former Players for both teams
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:24 pm
by LTown Cat
GrizinWashington wrote:LTown Cat wrote:Retarded that the article even mentions that some of these guys are former UM and MSU players. They have been gone for 10 years or nearly 10 years. They just coudn't help themselves from throwing that jab in there.
I disagree. It's newsworthy and it also helps with partial name recognition. If you're not a huge fan of either team, you may be thinking to yourself as you read the article, "Why is the name Chase Raynock familiar to me?"
I guess, but I highly doubt that was the reasoning for throwing MSU and UM into the article.....
Re: Cocaine Bust in Billings...Former Players for both teams
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 1:12 pm
by BelgradeBobcat
I just can't help but wonder if this is somehow Mike Kramer's fault.

Re: Cocaine Bust in Billings...Former Players for both teams
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 3:10 pm
by Cat-theotherwhitemeat
Old Skool Cat wrote:Wonder what this will do the Outlaws organization. Didn't they win some kind of indoor football championship this year? These types of venues really struggle in smaller towns like Billings, and it takes doing everything right for them to exist, so this may be a death knell to the organization. I went to a game last season; pretty cheesy football if you ask me. I wouldn't bother ever going to another game. It's maybe one step up from WWE wrestling; all show. Guess these guys were just living up to the team name.

Actually, this organization is doing very well and should be around for many years. They have very deep pockets. They've bought and remodeled a hotel and built a very nice practice facility. Not to mention they've partnered with Billings Clinic in the same facility. They also had one of the best average attendances in indoor football. They'll be here for quite some time as they are doing it right.
Re: Cocaine Bust in Billings...Former Players for both teams
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 3:21 pm
by SonomaCat
I guess this just proves (for the ten trillionth time) that a lot of people engage in recreational drug use, but are still very functional and productive people in society ... just like people who drink socially.
But because it's illegal, we don't get to tax their revenues, and now we have to pay to lock them up. We all lose.
Re: Cocaine Bust in Billings...Former Players for both teams
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 3:28 pm
by whitetrashgriz
GrizinWashington wrote:LTown Cat wrote:Retarded that the article even mentions that some of these guys are former UM and MSU players. They have been gone for 10 years or nearly 10 years. They just coudn't help themselves from throwing that jab in there.
I disagree. It's newsworthy and it also helps with partial name recognition. If you're not a huge fan of either team, you may be thinking to yourself as you read the article, "Why is the name Chase Raynock familiar to me?"
i agree. it's important because in montana sports, all we have are montana and montana state. we cheer these guys on, and they are idols and role models to our kids. so when something eventful happens...good or bad...they relate it to the universities of which the guys played. lulay hasn't been here for years, yet whenever he makes the paper it's "former bobcat". same with hilliard, bierman, and carpenter for the griz. hell, corey widmer hasn't played here for nearly 2 decades, yet when he got in that tragic accident a couple years ago he was mentioned as a former all-american bobcat. in a sense these guys are celebrities in our state, and like any celebrity, you need to be prepared to take the good with the bad. over on egriz some poster got all butt hurt right away and said that this story had no business on the griz athletics board. and while that may be true, that is precisely where all of the topics go regarding good stories about former griz, and no one has a problem. it's hypocracy at it's finest. fact is, in our communities these guys will always be "former cats" or "former griz", so all we can do is hope they make the best of their lives. but to only mention where they came from when they are going something great, and eliminate that fact when they are screwing up would seem to me to be horrible journalism.
Re: Cocaine Bust in Billings...Former Players for both teams
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:57 pm
by BDizzle
I also agree that saying they went to UM or MSU is fine. A few months ago there was a big article in the paper about Raynock doing good for the community and such. It was mentioned that he went to UM. Now he is in the paper for the wrong reasons. Should still be mentioned that he went to UM.
And I don't believe this will affect the Outlaws too much. Like it was previously stated, the Outlaws have done a lot for the community. The new practice facility is very nice. Their star QB has started a very good foundation that helps kids. Just like any team, college or pro, there can be bad apples. And I thoroughly enjoy going to the games. Very face paced and action packed.
Re: Cocaine Bust in Billings...Former Players for both teams
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:26 pm
by whitetrashgriz
Old Skool Cat wrote:Wonder what this will do the Outlaws organization. Didn't they win some kind of indoor football championship this year? These types of venues really struggle in smaller towns like Billings, and it takes doing everything right for them to exist, so this may be a death knell to the organization. I went to a game last season; pretty cheesy football if you ask me. I wouldn't bother ever going to another game. It's maybe one step up from WWE wrestling; all show. Guess these guys were just living up to the team name.

i'm curious if others share these thoughts. i have heard nothing but good things about the outlaw games and have been wanting to get to one in the future. i did attend the awful league that was held in the icedogs stadium before it was a beer cooler and THAT was cheesey. it seriously felt like wcw! bt i haven't heard that about the outlaws. who can set me straight?
Re: Cocaine Bust in Billings...Former Players for both teams
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:40 pm
by Cledus
I love the Outlaws games - it's great entertainment and the games are fun. Before I went to a game, I thought it would be cheesy but that hasn't been my experience at all. I don't see this having a negative impact at all - at least in the short term. If next year we see the same problem then, yeah, I'd say there's a problem.
If there are indoor teams struggling, it ain't in Billings. The crowds have been getting bigger every year and there's been no noticeable decrease in interest, like we're seeing in hockey. The Billings Bulls started out strong but interest waned as the league weakened.
The same cannot be said for indoor football - at the moment. Metra built indoor sky suites that are continually filled. If anything, the AFL and AFL2 folding boosted the league Billings is in because now we're getting guys from those leagues who came from big time college programs and need a place to play. Some even have NFL time under their belts and others (granted, a small few) still have a legitimate shot at the NFL.
I don't know what any of the answers are, but I can tell you as a local this does not have anywhere near the same feelings as the Rick Gatewood incident and the Jimmy Wilso incident. Travis Henry was busted for coke in Billings and he didn't have any ties to MSU, UM, or the Outlaws.
Re: Cocaine Bust in Billings...Former Players for both teams
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:35 am
by Cat-theotherwhitemeat
I love going to the games and find the talent level to be very impressive. The championship game was one of the loudest and most fun I have ever been to. If you've never been to a game, I highly recommend it. It's a damn good time for as little as $10 (now $11).
Re: Cocaine Bust in Billings...Former Players for both teams
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:30 am
by LTown Cat
whitetrashgriz wrote:GrizinWashington wrote:LTown Cat wrote:Retarded that the article even mentions that some of these guys are former UM and MSU players. They have been gone for 10 years or nearly 10 years. They just coudn't help themselves from throwing that jab in there.
I disagree. It's newsworthy and it also helps with partial name recognition. If you're not a huge fan of either team, you may be thinking to yourself as you read the article, "Why is the name Chase Raynock familiar to me?"
i agree. it's important because in montana sports, all we have are montana and montana state. we cheer these guys on, and they are idols and role models to our kids. so when something eventful happens...good or bad...they relate it to the universities of which the guys played. lulay hasn't been here for years, yet whenever he makes the paper it's "former bobcat". same with hilliard, bierman, and carpenter for the griz. hell, corey widmer hasn't played here for nearly 2 decades, yet when he got in that tragic accident a couple years ago he was mentioned as a former all-american bobcat. in a sense these guys are celebrities in our state, and like any celebrity, you need to be prepared to take the good with the bad. over on egriz some poster got all butt hurt right away and said that this story had no business on the griz athletics board. and while that may be true, that is precisely where all of the topics go regarding good stories about former griz, and no one has a problem. it's hypocracy at it's finest. fact is, in our communities these guys will always be "former cats" or "former griz", so all we can do is hope they make the best of their lives. but to only mention where they came from when they are going something great, and eliminate that fact when they are screwing up would seem to me to be horrible journalism.
Good points. You sold me!