The Bobcat Nation

WTF!

Doesn't sound great in that locker room. Too bad too with so much talent. But I think we're only just beginning to hear stuff in regards to our womens team.

ilovethecats wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 05, 2023 2:45 pm

Doesn't sound great in that locker room. Too bad too with so much talent. But I think we're only just beginning to hear stuff in regards to our womens team.

From the far outside looking, by two long term fans including a wife with spidey-sense, we have wondered about Grace, Coach Sunny, and possibly Coach Katie as being catalysts of unrest. I’ve never seen the team less able tho gel, play with more frowns than smiles, and just simply not play as a team. The guard corps is getting hit hard, with Darien, Leia, and Grace (all three possible point guards) taking the big exit door in the web application. I’ve also wondered with so much talent and still only 200 minutes in a game if something was going to give. But with Darien, Kola, and Madison graduating 120 minutes opened up. If we have any remnants it’s going to be a very young team.

Dang this one stings. Leia Buckets was a favorite of mine. Hope she doesn't go over the hill to that other school.

coachouert wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 05, 2023 2:10 pm

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Crap!!

Only three upperclassmen (Deden, Limardo, Janssen) left on the roster at this point. Will any of them follow?

Unless Coach Bin can hit paydirt in the portal, next year is looking really grim. Better call Kim Mulkey and ask her for the secret sauce. NINE new players this year at LSU.

aucat wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 05, 2023 5:38 pm

Unless Coach Bin can hit paydirt in the portal, next year is looking really grim. Better call Kim Mulkey and ask her for the secret sauce. NINE new players this year at LSU.

This comment isn't surprising; you're the same person who at the end of preseason in 2021 wanted trade their womens's tickets for a credit against the men's tickets; you didn't think the team was any good. And, they went on to win the conference and the tournament. Bin doesn't need to call Mulkey, her team played Mulkey's and gave them a good enough game.
Sit back and trust in the process. Tricia is at the helm of her ship and navigating the waters.

MSU01 wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 05, 2023 5:23 pm

Only three upperclassmen (Deden, Limardo, Janssen) left on the roster at this point. Will any of them follow?

I'm betting not. They are all mature and committed members of this team. Have zero reason for why Beattie is leaving but betting it might have something to do with NIL money, and therefore a value of worth. I don't see Deden, Limardo or Janssen will be hunting NIL money, they are secure in their worth.
And let's not forget our freshman class that came in; Olson didn't get much time due to injury but Phillip and Dykstra both got good minutes considering and showed great promise. Turnover is a constant in the coaching world and trying to be prepared for change is a constant battle. Plus we have Brooke Berry who has been with the team now for a semester.
Hard to lose players, but that's the process, and that's why the coaches are always searching for the best new recruits.

BelgradeBobcat wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 05, 2023 4:50 pm

Dang this one stings. Leia Buckets was a favorite of mine. Hope she doesn't go over the hill to that other school.

Ditto x3. Loved watching her hustle.

Good gravy.

How many guards does the team have left?

CatRowdy wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:06 pm

MSU01 wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 05, 2023 5:23 pm

Only three upperclassmen (Deden, Limardo, Janssen) left on the roster at this point. Will any of them follow?

I'm betting not. They are all mature and committed members of this team. Have zero reason for why Beattie is leaving but betting it might have something to do with NIL money, and therefore a value of worth. I don't see Deden, Limardo or Janssen will be hunting NIL money, they are secure in their worth.
And let's not forget our freshman class that came in; Olson didn't get much time due to injury but Phillip and Dykstra both got good minutes considering and showed great promise. Turnover is a constant in the coaching world and trying to be prepared for change is a constant battle. Plus we have Brooke Berry who has been with the team now for a semester.
Hard to lose players, but that's the process, and that's why the coaches are always searching for the best new recruits.

I think it has nothing to do with NIL! It has to do with being benched due to not performing as expected. Binford makes the tough decisions…….. she benched her and leaving is how some players respond. I think her performance was up and down all season. I trust Binford, but there’s only so much playing time available. Coaches have to make tough decisions and so do Coaches. Beattie made the decision to leave! Sometimes winning isn’t enough!

Catlady wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 06, 2023 10:05 am

CatRowdy wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:06 pm

MSU01 wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 05, 2023 5:23 pm

Only three upperclassmen (Deden, Limardo, Janssen) left on the roster at this point. Will any of them follow?

I'm betting not. They are all mature and committed members of this team. Have zero reason for why Beattie is leaving but betting it might have something to do with NIL money, and therefore a value of worth. I don't see Deden, Limardo or Janssen will be hunting NIL money, they are secure in their worth.
And let's not forget our freshman class that came in; Olson didn't get much time due to injury but Phillip and Dykstra both got good minutes considering and showed great promise. Turnover is a constant in the coaching world and trying to be prepared for change is a constant battle. Plus we have Brooke Berry who has been with the team now for a semester.
Hard to lose players, but that's the process, and that's why the coaches are always searching for the best new recruits.

I think it has nothing to do with NIL! It has to do with being benched due to not performing as expected. Binford makes the tough decisions…….. she benched her and leaving is how some players respond. I think her performance was up and down all season. I trust Binford, but there’s only so much playing time available. Coaches have to make tough decisions and so do Coaches. Beattie made the decision to leave! Sometimes winning isn’t enough!

Partially agreeing with you Catlady. She probably didn’t like losing her starting position to Jackson which occurred around the time after Eastern Washington road game which coincided with Dykstra also losing her slot to Deden. I don’t think her performance was why she was “unstarted” as much as Binford changing things up with Bad Bear & Deden on the floor together & Jackson’s skill set maybe being more compatible with that two-post player lineup.

MSU01 wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 05, 2023 5:23 pm

Only three upperclassmen (Deden, Limardo, Janssen) left on the roster at this point. Will any of them follow?

On another thread I had “worried a bit” about losing some of junior class. I sure hope this group stays to provide the leadership as the team “turns over” to some new youth entering the program. My worry is that this an ideal time to be marketable because they each have two years to play. So my “worrisome” thoughts are 1) Lexi stays “if” she is still in engineering and hasn’t graduated yet. Hard to change right in middle of an engineering degree and solid engineering program at MSU. She and Mara obviously will be the inside game for ladies next year. 2) Taylor has been providing fairly solid backup minutes for the last couple years. I don’t see her rising to be the key starter but continuing in a key backup role. And can really help out in case of injury and as our new recruits get up to speed. If Taylor wants to get to a starting role someplace she may move on. 3) KJ worries me a bit. She is Leia’s roommate and has that Texas and New Mexico southern connection. Probably a lot of talking with those two over last few weeks but then KJ certainly was recognized with more playing time than Leia. KJ was originally a PAC-12 commit to Arizona so she is known at next level up. She shot 39% from the arc this year and plays good disruptive defense so her skills will get a look from a lot of schools.

Just some quick thoughts…..hope they stay! . And I mentioned elsewhere, if Lindsay foot isn’t feeling better by next year I wonder if she goes???

arvcat2 wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 06, 2023 10:35 am

Catlady wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 06, 2023 10:05 am

CatRowdy wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:06 pm

MSU01 wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 05, 2023 5:23 pm

Only three upperclassmen (Deden, Limardo, Janssen) left on the roster at this point. Will any of them follow?

I'm betting not. They are all mature and committed members of this team. Have zero reason for why Beattie is leaving but betting it might have something to do with NIL money, and therefore a value of worth. I don't see Deden, Limardo or Janssen will be hunting NIL money, they are secure in their worth.
And let's not forget our freshman class that came in; Olson didn't get much time due to injury but Phillip and Dykstra both got good minutes considering and showed great promise. Turnover is a constant in the coaching world and trying to be prepared for change is a constant battle. Plus we have Brooke Berry who has been with the team now for a semester.
Hard to lose players, but that's the process, and that's why the coaches are always searching for the best new recruits.

I think it has nothing to do with NIL! It has to do with being benched due to not performing as expected. Binford makes the tough decisions…….. she benched her and leaving is how some players respond. I think her performance was up and down all season. I trust Binford, but there’s only so much playing time available. Coaches have to make tough decisions and so do Coaches. Beattie made the decision to leave! Sometimes winning isn’t enough!

Partially agreeing with you Catlady. She probably didn’t like losing her starting position to Jackson which occurred around the time after Eastern Washington road game which coincided with Dykstra also losing her slot to Deden. I don’t think her performance was why she was “unstarted” as much as Binford changing things up with Bad Bear & Deden on the floor together & Jackson’s skill set maybe being more compatible with that two-post player lineup.

Partially partially agreeing with both of you. Agree it wasn’t NIL. And Jackson taking over starting role was a key change and Leia just didn’t seem to ever be able to work her way back in to get more minutes. As you said CatLady some of that is likely her inconsistency. But one of the things I remember Coach saying early in the year when she made the swap related to our poor starts at the time….it just seemed like we were lethargic on both offensive and defensive end of the court for much of Q1. And there is one thing that Maddie Jackson brings was “instantaneous energy”….there is no middle ground with that lady…full on is only mode when on the court. Just an observation from what I heard.

The sad thing on this for both Gracie and Leia, I know they were stuck behind “all-world” and “instant energy” but with Darian and Maddie both moving on, with some strong work ethics and “want to” those two were sitting in prime position to take over key roles for the next one to two years and could have been leaders to take the team back to a championship. And they could have had tremendous influence on the new kids coming in. Oh well.

Catlady wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 06, 2023 10:05 am

CatRowdy wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:06 pm

MSU01 wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 05, 2023 5:23 pm

Only three upperclassmen (Deden, Limardo, Janssen) left on the roster at this point. Will any of them follow?

I'm betting not. They are all mature and committed members of this team. Have zero reason for why Beattie is leaving but betting it might have something to do with NIL money, and therefore a value of worth. I don't see Deden, Limardo or Janssen will be hunting NIL money, they are secure in their worth.
And let's not forget our freshman class that came in; Olson didn't get much time due to injury but Phillip and Dykstra both got good minutes considering and showed great promise. Turnover is a constant in the coaching world and trying to be prepared for change is a constant battle. Plus we have Brooke Berry who has been with the team now for a semester.
Hard to lose players, but that's the process, and that's why the coaches are always searching for the best new recruits.

I think it has nothing to do with NIL! It has to do with being benched due to not performing as expected. Binford makes the tough decisions…….. she benched her and leaving is how some players respond. I think her performance was up and down all season. I trust Binford, but there’s only so much playing time available. Coaches have to make tough decisions and so do Coaches. Beattie made the decision to leave! Sometimes winning isn’t enough!

Beattie won one of the Big Sky’s top awards, Reserve of the Year. If she started all year she might have been Honorable Mention.

Catlady wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 06, 2023 10:05 am

CatRowdy wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:06 pm

MSU01 wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 05, 2023 5:23 pm

Only three upperclassmen (Deden, Limardo, Janssen) left on the roster at this point. Will any of them follow?

I'm betting not. They are all mature and committed members of this team. Have zero reason for why Beattie is leaving but betting it might have something to do with NIL money, and therefore a value of worth. I don't see Deden, Limardo or Janssen will be hunting NIL money, they are secure in their worth.
And let's not forget our freshman class that came in; Olson didn't get much time due to injury but Phillip and Dykstra both got good minutes considering and showed great promise. Turnover is a constant in the coaching world and trying to be prepared for change is a constant battle. Plus we have Brooke Berry who has been with the team now for a semester.
Hard to lose players, but that's the process, and that's why the coaches are always searching for the best new recruits.

I think it has nothing to do with NIL! It has to do with being benched due to not performing as expected. Binford makes the tough decisions…….. she benched her and leaving is how some players respond. I think her performance was up and down all season. I trust Binford, but there’s only so much playing time available. Coaches have to make tough decisions and so do Coaches. Beattie made the decision to leave! Sometimes winning isn’t enough!

Quote of the month
"Coaches have to make tough decisions and so do Coaches"

Given the crazy world of the transfer portal, why even bother to have "preseason polls" anymore? Fans have no idea what the teams will be like from year to year with the revolving doors of players entering and exiting.

wapiti wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 06, 2023 3:41 pm

Catlady wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 06, 2023 10:05 am

CatRowdy wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:06 pm

MSU01 wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 05, 2023 5:23 pm

Only three upperclassmen (Deden, Limardo, Janssen) left on the roster at this point. Will any of them follow?

I'm betting not. They are all mature and committed members of this team. Have zero reason for why Beattie is leaving but betting it might have something to do with NIL money, and therefore a value of worth. I don't see Deden, Limardo or Janssen will be hunting NIL money, they are secure in their worth.
And let's not forget our freshman class that came in; Olson didn't get much time due to injury but Phillip and Dykstra both got good minutes considering and showed great promise. Turnover is a constant in the coaching world and trying to be prepared for change is a constant battle. Plus we have Brooke Berry who has been with the team now for a semester.
Hard to lose players, but that's the process, and that's why the coaches are always searching for the best new recruits.

I think it has nothing to do with NIL! It has to do with being benched due to not performing as expected. Binford makes the tough decisions…….. she benched her and leaving is how some players respond. I think her performance was up and down all season. I trust Binford, but there’s only so much playing time available. Coaches have to make tough decisions and so do Coaches. Beattie made the decision to leave! Sometimes winning isn’t enough!

Quote of the month
"Coaches have to make tough decisions and so do Coaches"

You got that too..