Very frustrated by coaches Leaving because of pay!

[Cat Grad]

Of course, that wouldn't guarantee that we could then become the next Gonzaga, it may, however, help us keep our coaches longer.

Fun fact; I looked up Mark Few's pay and he makes a cool 1.8 million per year.

Mark Few was the 12th highest paid coach in this years Sweet 16. He doesn't even come close to cracking the top 25 in annual coaches salary (Brian Dutcher, San Diego State's coach is 13th just as an aside). What Few has done at Gonzaga has taken 20 years. Danny was here for 1/5th of that time. Could he have built something special? Heck yeah he could have.
I think the thing we're not realizing that as fans is, with as much money that is thrown around mid and high major schools, the likelihood of getting a guy like Few, Dutcher, Jim Boeheim, or even someone like Travis DeCuire is extremely rare. I'd be willing to bet that one of the main reasons Few didn't leave Gonzaga early on for a better opportunity was that the steelhead fishing in Spokane is much better than in a place like Lawrence, Kansas.

Like I said somewhere on this page; if Montana State wants to stay competitive and not play the coaching carousel game every 2-4 years, a move to a bigger conference is mandatory.

https://frontofficesports.com/highest-p ... l-coaches/

There are those who a geographically myopic. Right now, Ohio has the largest steelhead runs year in and year out. The Columbia Basin sea run salmonoid fishing is in peril. Think Few hasn't been here?

https://mdc.mo.gov/your-property/waters ... hite-river

Some might argue that Great Lake "steelhead" are just glorified rainbows because they aren't anadromous (living in salt water and returning to spawn in fresh water). Knowing Few is a PNW guy I have an idea he and I might agree on this topic

He's been all over. Iceland, Tierra del Fuego, Norway, the Great Lakes stream(s) and he's on several anadromous boards and understands that pacific fishery is a lot like the pac. About dead.

His decision to remain at Gonzaga all these years was a brilliant decision on his part. In 21 years, what is his record?

[Colter_Nuanez]

Wrote about this on the R&R site, but in short - don't get mad, because there's nothing we can really do about it. Just enjoy it while it lasts and hope that another coach keeps the momentum going.

This is uncharted territory for us - having a coach hired away for a bigger job. For decades it was either retirements, resignings, or firings. If we have a coach come in and move up to a P10 school after 4 years then it means MSU was good for that whole time. It's frustrating but the other alternative is we keep a guy for 7 years and then fire him.

But this one is particularly frustrating though because if there was ever going to be a chance at having a coach who sticks around and really builds it up, it was Sprinkle. A local Montanan, a MSU player alum. Those are the only chances schools like ours ever have and he didn't even stick around to see freshman he recruited graduate from MSU.

Danny Sprinkle is in fact the first Montana State head men's basketball coach to "move up" to a different, more "elevated" job since Ott Romney went from MSU to BYU in 1928.

During the Big Sky Conference era (starting in 1963), head basketball coaches at MSU were either dismissed (Gary Hulst, Rich Juarez, Bruce Haroldson, Brad Huse, Brian Fish), resigned to pursue other opportunities (Roger Craft went into private business, Hank Anderson became the athletic director at Northern Arizona and Mick Durham resigned only to resurface as an assistant at New Mexico State). Stu Starner, the first head coach to lead the Bobcats to the NCAA Tournament in 1986, was placed on leave in 1990 before taking the Texas-San Antonio head job the following season.

[Bobcat4Ever]

Just think, in only 95 years we’ll have another coach good enough to move up. Great, great, great grandson of a famous Bobcat coach?

[Helcat72]

If we had the population base of USU then we could probably compete with the bigger schools, but if we did there may be other schools in the state to share the wealth with. We can either live in the"Last Best Place" or have big time college sports. The way it is we just can't afford coaches like Danny. Lucky to have him for 4 years!

[John K]

Wrote about this on the R&R site, but in short - don't get mad, because there's nothing we can really do about it. Just enjoy it while it lasts and hope that another coach keeps the momentum going.

This is uncharted territory for us - having a coach hired away for a bigger job. For decades it was either retirements, resignings, or firings. If we have a coach come in and move up to a P10 school after 4 years then it means MSU was good for that whole time. It's frustrating but the other alternative is we keep a guy for 7 years and then fire him.

But this one is particularly frustrating though because if there was ever going to be a chance at having a coach who sticks around and really builds it up, it was Sprinkle. A local Montanan, a MSU player alum. Those are the only chances schools like ours ever have and he didn't even stick around to see freshman he recruited graduate from MSU.

Danny Sprinkle is in fact the first Montana State head men's basketball coach to "move up" to a different, more "elevated" job since Ott Romney went from MSU to BYU in 1928.

During the Big Sky Conference era (starting in 1963), head basketball coaches at MSU were either dismissed (Gary Hulst, Rich Juarez, Bruce Haroldson, Brad Huse, Brian Fish), resigned to pursue other opportunities (Roger Craft went into private business, Hank Anderson became the athletic director at Northern Arizona and Mick Durham resigned only to resurface as an assistant at New Mexico State). Stu Starner, the first head coach to lead the Bobcats to the NCAA Tournament in 1986, was placed on leave in 1990 before taking the Texas-San Antonio head job the following season.

I have followed MSU athletics very closely for many years, but I've always been a bit fuzzy on the circumstances surrounding Starner's departure. Why was he placed on leave? Was in voluntary on his part, or did MSU place him on leave as a disciplinary action for some reasons?

[BelgradeBobcat]

Wrote about this on the R&R site, but in short - don't get mad, because there's nothing we can really do about it. Just enjoy it while it lasts and hope that another coach keeps the momentum going.

This is uncharted territory for us - having a coach hired away for a bigger job. For decades it was either retirements, resignings, or firings. If we have a coach come in and move up to a P10 school after 4 years then it means MSU was good for that whole time. It's frustrating but the other alternative is we keep a guy for 7 years and then fire him.

But this one is particularly frustrating though because if there was ever going to be a chance at having a coach who sticks around and really builds it up, it was Sprinkle. A local Montanan, a MSU player alum. Those are the only chances schools like ours ever have and he didn't even stick around to see freshman he recruited graduate from MSU.

Danny Sprinkle is in fact the first Montana State head men's basketball coach to "move up" to a different, more "elevated" job since Ott Romney went from MSU to BYU in 1928.

During the Big Sky Conference era (starting in 1963), head basketball coaches at MSU were either dismissed (Gary Hulst, Rich Juarez, Bruce Haroldson, Brad Huse, Brian Fish), resigned to pursue other opportunities (Roger Craft went into private business, Hank Anderson became the athletic director at Northern Arizona and Mick Durham resigned only to resurface as an assistant at New Mexico State). Stu Starner, the first head coach to lead the Bobcats to the NCAA Tournament in 1986, was placed on leave in 1990 before taking the Texas-San Antonio head job the following season.

I have followed MSU athletics very closely for many years, but I've always been a bit fuzzy on the circumstances surrounding Starner's departure. Why was he placed on leave? Was in voluntary on his part, or did MSU place him on leave as a disciplinary action for some reasons?

The way I remember it, Starner was going to take a one-year sabbatical and then come back, with Mick Durham being the interim coach for a season, but it quickly changed when Starner went to UT-Arlington. I don't think he was forced out, but I could be wrong on that.

Sprinkle broke a couple long trends. Big Sky Conference tournament futility and the perception that MSU men's basketball is a coaching grave yard. This doesn't have to be a bad thing. Look at the grizzlies-going back to Jud Heathcote, then Brandenburger, Montgomery, Morrill, Taylor, Krystkowiak, Tinkle...they were just fine. Decuire may have gotten himself stuck though-not striking when the iron was hot.

[Cat Grad]

Wrote about this on the R&R site, but in short - don't get mad, because there's nothing we can really do about it. Just enjoy it while it lasts and hope that another coach keeps the momentum going.

This is uncharted territory for us - having a coach hired away for a bigger job. For decades it was either retirements, resignings, or firings. If we have a coach come in and move up to a P10 school after 4 years then it means MSU was good for that whole time. It's frustrating but the other alternative is we keep a guy for 7 years and then fire him.

But this one is particularly frustrating though because if there was ever going to be a chance at having a coach who sticks around and really builds it up, it was Sprinkle. A local Montanan, a MSU player alum. Those are the only chances schools like ours ever have and he didn't even stick around to see freshman he recruited graduate from MSU.

Danny Sprinkle is in fact the first Montana State head men's basketball coach to "move up" to a different, more "elevated" job since Ott Romney went from MSU to BYU in 1928.

During the Big Sky Conference era (starting in 1963), head basketball coaches at MSU were either dismissed (Gary Hulst, Rich Juarez, Bruce Haroldson, Brad Huse, Brian Fish), resigned to pursue other opportunities (Roger Craft went into private business, Hank Anderson became the athletic director at Northern Arizona and Mick Durham resigned only to resurface as an assistant at New Mexico State). Stu Starner, the first head coach to lead the Bobcats to the NCAA Tournament in 1986, was placed on leave in 1990 before taking the Texas-San Antonio head job the following season.

I have followed MSU athletics very closely for many years, but I've always been a bit fuzzy on the circumstances surrounding Starner's departure. Why was he placed on leave? Was in voluntary on his part, or did MSU place him on leave as a disciplinary action for some reasons?

The way I remember it, Starner was going to take a one-year sabbatical and then come back, with Mick Durham being the interim coach for a season, but it quickly changed when Starner went to UT-Arlington. I don't think he was forced out, but I could be wrong on that.

Sprinkle broke a couple long trends. Big Sky Conference tournament futility and the perception that MSU men's basketball is a coaching grave yard. This doesn't have to be a bad thing. Look at the grizzlies-going back to Jud Heathcote, then Brandenburger, Montgomery, Morrill, Taylor, Krystkowiak, Tinkle...they were just fine. Decuire may have gotten himself stuck though-not striking when the iron was hot.

Robin Selvig. Mark Few? Hauck turning down San Diego State.