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Re: MSU Women's Basketball Banquet

Post by Hawks86 » Fri May 09, 2025 9:24 pm

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Re: MSU Women's Basketball Banquet

Post by lutecat » Fri May 09, 2025 9:27 pm

GrizgradCatFan wrote:
Fri May 09, 2025 9:09 pm
lutecat wrote:
Fri May 09, 2025 7:13 pm
GrizgradCatFan wrote:
Fri May 09, 2025 3:16 pm
I heard that they didn't allow the girls who were transferring to attend and that kinda bugs me a little as they were part of this team. We should be proud that we can get girls to bigger programs. I even think Picton should have been invited with open arms. If she wasn't there who knows she was a vital part of this team. They should have atleast had the opportunity to go if they wanted, but not allowing them doesn't sit well with me. Anyway just my two cents.
The girls that transfered are gone. School is over. They're with their new team now.
Not correct
School is too over.



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Re: MSU Women's Basketball Banquet

Post by MSU01 » Fri May 09, 2025 9:38 pm

lutecat wrote:
Fri May 09, 2025 7:13 pm
GrizgradCatFan wrote:
Fri May 09, 2025 3:16 pm
I heard that they didn't allow the girls who were transferring to attend and that kinda bugs me a little as they were part of this team. We should be proud that we can get girls to bigger programs. I even think Picton should have been invited with open arms. If she wasn't there who knows she was a vital part of this team. They should have atleast had the opportunity to go if they wanted, but not allowing them doesn't sit well with me. Anyway just my two cents.
The girls that transfered are gone. School is over. They're with their new team now.
Maybe so, but then how do you explain their removal from the online roster for last year's team that they were a part of. When MSU hasn't done the same thing for other sports.



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Re: MSU Women's Basketball Banquet

Post by tetoncat » Fri May 09, 2025 10:54 pm

MSU01 wrote:
Fri May 09, 2025 9:38 pm
lutecat wrote:
Fri May 09, 2025 7:13 pm
GrizgradCatFan wrote:
Fri May 09, 2025 3:16 pm
I heard that they didn't allow the girls who were transferring to attend and that kinda bugs me a little as they were part of this team. We should be proud that we can get girls to bigger programs. I even think Picton should have been invited with open arms. If she wasn't there who knows she was a vital part of this team. They should have atleast had the opportunity to go if they wanted, but not allowing them doesn't sit well with me. Anyway just my two cents.
The girls that transfered are gone. School is over. They're with their new team now.
Maybe so, but then how do you explain their removal from the online roster for last year's team that they were a part of. When MSU hasn't done the same thing for other sports.
Each coach/sport should be able to handle in their own way. My question would be is that what Binford has done in prior years. If so she is consistent. School just got done today so if you are celebrating this year you could include them, but is that comfortable for other players, is it comfortable for a player you asked to leave?


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Re: MSU Women's Basketball Banquet

Post by MSU01 » Fri May 09, 2025 10:59 pm

tetoncat wrote:
Fri May 09, 2025 10:54 pm
MSU01 wrote:
Fri May 09, 2025 9:38 pm
lutecat wrote:
Fri May 09, 2025 7:13 pm
GrizgradCatFan wrote:
Fri May 09, 2025 3:16 pm
I heard that they didn't allow the girls who were transferring to attend and that kinda bugs me a little as they were part of this team. We should be proud that we can get girls to bigger programs. I even think Picton should have been invited with open arms. If she wasn't there who knows she was a vital part of this team. They should have atleast had the opportunity to go if they wanted, but not allowing them doesn't sit well with me. Anyway just my two cents.
The girls that transfered are gone. School is over. They're with their new team now.
Maybe so, but then how do you explain their removal from the online roster for last year's team that they were a part of. When MSU hasn't done the same thing for other sports.
Each coach/sport should be able to handle in their own way. My question would be is that what Binford has done in prior years. If so she is consistent. School just got done today so if you are celebrating this year you could include them, but is that comfortable for other players, is it comfortable for a player you asked to leave?
Past players who have transferred out are still on the online rosters for their last seasons. Malea Egan and Lea Boulanger in '23-'24. Darian, Kola, and Leia Beattie in '22-'23. This year was handled differently and only for women's basketball. It makes sense why those players may not have been at the banquet but the roster deletions seem really weird to me. Probably reading way too much into it.



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Re: MSU Women's Basketball Banquet

Post by HelenaCat » Sat May 10, 2025 9:07 am

Playing devil's advocate, it would very likely to have been very uncomfortable for the girls leaving MSU to be at this banquet...answering numerous questions as to why they were leaving, maybe sensing some people upset they were leaving, etc. I think it was better not to have them there just because it likely would have been uncomfortable for them.



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Re: MSU Women's Basketball Banquet

Post by BobcatDel » Sat May 10, 2025 12:09 pm

MSU01 wrote:
Fri May 09, 2025 10:59 pm
tetoncat wrote:
Fri May 09, 2025 10:54 pm
MSU01 wrote:
Fri May 09, 2025 9:38 pm
lutecat wrote:
Fri May 09, 2025 7:13 pm
GrizgradCatFan wrote:
Fri May 09, 2025 3:16 pm
I heard that they didn't allow the girls who were transferring to attend and that kinda bugs me a little as they were part of this team. We should be proud that we can get girls to bigger programs. I even think Picton should have been invited with open arms. If she wasn't there who knows she was a vital part of this team. They should have atleast had the opportunity to go if they wanted, but not allowing them doesn't sit well with me. Anyway just my two cents.
The girls that transfered are gone. School is over. They're with their new team now.
Maybe so, but then how do you explain their removal from the online roster for last year's team that they were a part of. When MSU hasn't done the same thing for other sports.
Each coach/sport should be able to handle in their own way. My question would be is that what Binford has done in prior years. If so she is consistent. School just got done today so if you are celebrating this year you could include them, but is that comfortable for other players, is it comfortable for a player you asked to leave?
Past players who have transferred out are still on the online rosters for their last seasons. Malea Egan and Lea Boulanger in '23-'24. Darian, Kola, and Leia Beattie in '22-'23. This year was handled differently and only for women's basketball. It makes sense why those players may not have been at the banquet but the roster deletions seem really weird to me. Probably reading way too much into it.
It’ll be more fun this way. No names on the jerseys….old timers 10 or 15 years down the road looking at pictures trying to guess who that was…..scrambling to find an old incomplete roster…..arguing about who was on that team……or a BN recognition contest naming the top players or top plays of all time but dementia has caused us to forget the names and their historic stats are no longer to be found because seasons are missing…. so can’t argue from factual data basis….…I like it. Sarcasm intended…….

At least gets them out of the running for Hall of Fame nominations…….



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Re: MSU Women's Basketball Banquet

Post by BobcatDel » Sat May 10, 2025 12:23 pm

Some great photos of the ladies. But one award is not posted. Coach gave out Bobcat Legacy awards to KJ and Taylor.

I appreciated her doing that. I wished I had captured the exact statistics but both Taylor and KJ played in over 140 games making them 1 and 2 all time for games played. I know Taylor missed a few at the start of this season due to her knee surgery and KJ missed a couple after her neck injury last year but overall these were a couple of tough performers throughout a 5 year career. Again I wished I had the final numbers but both had over 100 victories in a Bobcat uniform. They were part of 2 regular season conference championships (2022-23 and 2024-25) and 2 tournament championships (2021-22 and 2024-25)…..so in essence they took home a championship trophy in 3 out of 5 years they were here. Well done and “THANK YOU” to KJ and Taylor!



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Re: MSU Women's Basketball Banquet

Post by tetoncat » Sat May 10, 2025 2:13 pm

MSU01 wrote:
Fri May 09, 2025 10:59 pm
tetoncat wrote:
Fri May 09, 2025 10:54 pm
MSU01 wrote:
Fri May 09, 2025 9:38 pm
lutecat wrote:
Fri May 09, 2025 7:13 pm
GrizgradCatFan wrote:
Fri May 09, 2025 3:16 pm
I heard that they didn't allow the girls who were transferring to attend and that kinda bugs me a little as they were part of this team. We should be proud that we can get girls to bigger programs. I even think Picton should have been invited with open arms. If she wasn't there who knows she was a vital part of this team. They should have atleast had the opportunity to go if they wanted, but not allowing them doesn't sit well with me. Anyway just my two cents.
The girls that transfered are gone. School is over. They're with their new team now.
Maybe so, but then how do you explain their removal from the online roster for last year's team that they were a part of. When MSU hasn't done the same thing for other sports.
Each coach/sport should be able to handle in their own way. My question would be is that what Binford has done in prior years. If so she is consistent. School just got done today so if you are celebrating this year you could include them, but is that comfortable for other players, is it comfortable for a player you asked to leave?
Past players who have transferred out are still on the online rosters for their last seasons. Malea Egan and Lea Boulanger in '23-'24. Darian, Kola, and Leia Beattie in '22-'23. This year was handled differently and only for women's basketball. It makes sense why those players may not have been at the banquet but the roster deletions seem really weird to me. Probably reading way too much into it.
I was more referencing the banquet. Roster I agree doesn't make sense.good question for those in clubs to ask coach. I also think Darian and Kola are different situations. Played here 4 years,graduated and due to Covid had a fifth year. I think Coach knew way ahead they were leaving and recruited accordingly


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Re: MSU Women's Basketball Banquet

Post by lutecat » Sat May 10, 2025 4:25 pm

tetoncat wrote:
Sat May 10, 2025 2:13 pm
MSU01 wrote:
Fri May 09, 2025 10:59 pm
tetoncat wrote:
Fri May 09, 2025 10:54 pm
MSU01 wrote:
Fri May 09, 2025 9:38 pm
lutecat wrote:
Fri May 09, 2025 7:13 pm
GrizgradCatFan wrote:
Fri May 09, 2025 3:16 pm
I heard that they didn't allow the girls who were transferring to attend and that kinda bugs me a little as they were part of this team. We should be proud that we can get girls to bigger programs. I even think Picton should have been invited with open arms. If she wasn't there who knows she was a vital part of this team. They should have atleast had the opportunity to go if they wanted, but not allowing them doesn't sit well with me. Anyway just my two cents.
The girls that transfered are gone. School is over. They're with their new team now.
Maybe so, but then how do you explain their removal from the online roster for last year's team that they were a part of. When MSU hasn't done the same thing for other sports.
Each coach/sport should be able to handle in their own way. My question would be is that what Binford has done in prior years. If so she is consistent. School just got done today so if you are celebrating this year you could include them, but is that comfortable for other players, is it comfortable for a player you asked to leave?
Past players who have transferred out are still on the online rosters for their last seasons. Malea Egan and Lea Boulanger in '23-'24. Darian, Kola, and Leia Beattie in '22-'23. This year was handled differently and only for women's basketball. It makes sense why those players may not have been at the banquet but the roster deletions seem really weird to me. Probably reading way too much into it.
I was more referencing the banquet. Roster I agree doesn't make sense.good question for those in clubs to ask coach. I also think Darian and Kola are different situations. Played here 4 years,graduated and due to Covid had a fifth year. I think Coach knew way ahead they were leaving and recruited accordingly
This is the right take.

If this event was open to the public you know that Natalie and Marah especially would've been put on the spot and asked.



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Re: MSU Women's Basketball Banquet

Post by CatRowdy » Mon May 12, 2025 12:06 am

I agree I wish they would leave the season roster alone. Removing players messes with the history of the program. Seems to me when the portal closes they should start the new 2025-2026 roster.
I do find it funny they currently have two 2023-2024 rosters. On one only LIndsey Hein is in the program although she's listed twice. The other has the actual team. Who actually administers the website; you'd think they would have spotted the repeat by now.



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Re: MSU Women's Basketball Banquet

Post by Bobcat4Ever » Mon May 12, 2025 12:34 am

CatRowdy wrote:
Mon May 12, 2025 12:06 am
I agree I wish they would leave the season roster alone. Removing players messes with the history of the program. Seems to me when the portal closes they should start the new 2025-2026 roster.
I do find it funny they currently have two 2023-2024 rosters. On one only LIndsey Hein is in the program although she's listed twice. The other has the actual team. Who actually administers the website; you'd think they would have spotted the repeat by now.
Having worked with athletics in the past on the underlying admin code that took care of site updates, it’s possible they had a new student employee doing these updates. The first thing I thought when I saw the dual 2023-2024 rosters was operator error!

Typically last year’s roster would be copied to 2025-2026, old players deleted, and new players added. I suspect the current roster is being updated instead of the new one, which may well be the redundant 2023-2024 one.

I wouldn’t read anything at all into this until the 2025-2026 roster appears and is populated, which hopefully is before the first game in the fall.



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Re: MSU Women's Basketball Banquet

Post by MSU01 » Mon May 12, 2025 7:43 am

Bobcat4Ever wrote:
Mon May 12, 2025 12:34 am
CatRowdy wrote:
Mon May 12, 2025 12:06 am
I agree I wish they would leave the season roster alone. Removing players messes with the history of the program. Seems to me when the portal closes they should start the new 2025-2026 roster.
I do find it funny they currently have two 2023-2024 rosters. On one only LIndsey Hein is in the program although she's listed twice. The other has the actual team. Who actually administers the website; you'd think they would have spotted the repeat by now.
Having worked with athletics in the past on the underlying admin code that took care of site updates, it’s possible they had a new student employee doing these updates. The first thing I thought when I saw the dual 2023-2024 rosters was operator error!

Typically last year’s roster would be copied to 2025-2026, old players deleted, and new players added. I suspect the current roster is being updated instead of the new one, which may well be the redundant 2023-2024 one.

I wouldn’t read anything at all into this until the 2025-2026 roster appears and is populated, which hopefully is before the first game in the fall.
Agreed, hopefully this gets changed once the 2025-26 roster is posted over the summer. Not including players in team activities after they transfer is fine, but removing them from the roster of the team they played for and helped win a championship with seems to be overly harsh if it was done intentionally.



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Re: MSU Women's Basketball Banquet

Post by CatRowdy » Mon May 12, 2025 9:35 am

MSU01 wrote:
Mon May 12, 2025 7:43 am
Bobcat4Ever wrote:
Mon May 12, 2025 12:34 am
CatRowdy wrote:
Mon May 12, 2025 12:06 am
I agree I wish they would leave the season roster alone. Removing players messes with the history of the program. Seems to me when the portal closes they should start the new 2025-2026 roster.
I do find it funny they currently have two 2023-2024 rosters. On one only LIndsey Hein is in the program although she's listed twice. The other has the actual team. Who actually administers the website; you'd think they would have spotted the repeat by now.
Having worked with athletics in the past on the underlying admin code that took care of site updates, it’s possible they had a new student employee doing these updates. The first thing I thought when I saw the dual 2023-2024 rosters was operator error!

Typically last year’s roster would be copied to 2025-2026, old players deleted, and new players added. I suspect the current roster is being updated instead of the new one, which may well be the redundant 2023-2024 one.

I wouldn’t read anything at all into this until the 2025-2026 roster appears and is populated, which hopefully is before the first game in the fall.
Agreed, hopefully this gets changed once the 2025-26 roster is posted over the summer. Not including players in team activities after they transfer is fine, but removing them from the roster of the team they played for and helped win a championship with seems to be overly harsh if it was done intentionally.
I can't prove it but I recall Leia and Grace being removed from the roster when they jumped to NAU; and now they are restored to the rosters for the years they played here. So it makes sense when new additions start when the freshmen get here that a new roster will be done and the old corrected back.



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