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Post Game Analysis

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 4:40 pm
by BigSkyCat
Penalties, missed opportunities, and a wasted performance by the defense.

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 4:44 pm
by longhorn_22
I'd vote for Retoriano.

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 4:45 pm
by Catdad39
This was a huge waste of a great performance by the defense. We had two weeks to prepare and that was the best we could do on offense. We were one "wrinkle" or special play away from pulling out a victory. After Fuller's interception, if there is anything in your "bag of tricks", it is the perfect time to pull it out. Obviously, we had no bag of tricks or adjustments to a defense that has been above average at best. You will never convince me they have 1/2 the athletes that we do....they do not. They run a great system and play hard. Did anybody else in the Big Sky get held to 7 points? Did anyone else hold them to 13 points despite giving them 4 turnovers? Christoff gets the game ball...the rest should be obvious to anyone who understands football.

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 4:46 pm
by longhorn_22
I still hate Don Bailey's play calls. He doesn't utilize out skill players when we need to.

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 4:48 pm
by tdub
I'll take responsibility for the loss. The ONLY play I didn't see was the Griz TD. I for some reason really needed a beer right before that play happened, and guess what...

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 5:10 pm
by bcats
I thought our offensive play calling was s**t. The first half we were stuffing it down their throats running the ball. Then all of a sudden we decide to start throwing on first and second down. Rolo was off all day and I thought we could have ran the ball consistently throughout the day. 3rd and 1 interception when we finally get something going was a terrible call and poor execution. We played hard and could have won this game. Pray for a playoff berth.

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 7:31 pm
by bobcatmaniac
I just cannot believe how friz raped and killed daly, and were never called.

nithdurr

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 7:40 pm
by nithdurr
the Griz D

Got us the W!

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 7:44 pm
by Cat Grad
Simply can't vote here--our defense was what we are; five third and short and instead of picking up the first down we go ti not just Bailey's dipsy doodle BS, but down the field? Hell, even Hauck's assistants knew where Baily was going to have Jack throw the ball and you know MJ was so surprised ...forget it...again, a great game except for our offensive play callilng. A game like this, one should put the kids in position to suceed and at least pick up the first downs and not put so much pressure on the defense and special teams--but where were the trick plays?

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 8:13 pm
by DCC2MSU
A couple of things that I thought were brutal were the dropped passes (Rolo didn't look sharp, but when he hits someone in the hands they should catch the ball), dumb penalties, and some play calling issues. I remember a lot of fake reverses, but if we actually ran one I must of been getting a drink because I don't remember it.

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 8:46 pm
by Weltercat
bcats wrote:I thought our offensive play calling was s**t. The first half we were stuffing it down their throats running the ball. Then all of a sudden we decide to start throwing on first and second down. Rolo was off all day and I thought we could have ran the ball consistently throughout the day. 3rd and 1 interception when we finally get something going was a terrible call and poor execution. We played hard and could have won this game. Pray for a playoff berth.
I agree! I think we could have run the ball and taken control of this game. Although, I was not that disappointed in the play calling except that third down and one when he threw the deep ball. We needed to keep the defense off the field for a minute. Oh, and the deep hand off to Taito in the backfield on forth and short was a poor call in my opinion as well. I am Monday morning QB'ing a bit here.

Rolo is not very accurate and he cannot run very well either. We need to execute the swing pass a little better. That kind of pass should not be a bullet. He doesn't get the ball to the open guy very well. also, where the hell was groves? He could have been just what we needed.

I am disappointed in the loss but as hard as the players fought I am more optimistic than ever about bobcat football. We could have just as easily won that game. Anybody that watched that game could tell that we had the better athletes on the field but give the fiz credit for that one.

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 11:27 am
by grizzh8r
Weltercat wrote:
bcats wrote:I thought our offensive play calling was s**t. The first half we were stuffing it down their throats running the ball. Then all of a sudden we decide to start throwing on first and second down. Rolo was off all day and I thought we could have ran the ball consistently throughout the day. 3rd and 1 interception when we finally get something going was a terrible call and poor execution. We played hard and could have won this game. Pray for a playoff berth.
I agree! I think we could have run the ball and taken control of this game. Although, I was not that disappointed in the play calling except that third down and one when he threw the deep ball. We needed to keep the defense off the field for a minute. Oh, and the deep hand off to Taito in the backfield on forth and short was a poor call in my opinion as well. I am Monday morning QB'ing a bit here.

Rolo is not very accurate and he cannot run very well either. We need to execute the swing pass a little better. That kind of pass should not be a bullet. He doesn't get the ball to the open guy very well. also, where the hell was groves? He could have been just what we needed.

I am disappointed in the loss but as hard as the players fought I am more optimistic than ever about bobcat football. We could have just as easily won that game. Anybody that watched that game could tell that we had the better athletes on the field but give the fiz credit for that one.

That should have been a non-issue. Jefferson got a HORRIBLE spot by the refs - at least a yard and a half shy of where he actually went down. I was celebrating a first down, then they marked him well short. Complete ineptitude by the refs. Attebury even said that.

Groves got knocked out the second play from scrimmage.

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 11:36 am
by DCC2MSU
grizzh8r wrote:
Weltercat wrote:
bcats wrote:I thought our offensive play calling was s**t. The first half we were stuffing it down their throats running the ball. Then all of a sudden we decide to start throwing on first and second down. Rolo was off all day and I thought we could have ran the ball consistently throughout the day. 3rd and 1 interception when we finally get something going was a terrible call and poor execution. We played hard and could have won this game. Pray for a playoff berth.
I agree! I think we could have run the ball and taken control of this game. Although, I was not that disappointed in the play calling except that third down and one when he threw the deep ball. We needed to keep the defense off the field for a minute. Oh, and the deep hand off to Taito in the backfield on forth and short was a poor call in my opinion as well. I am Monday morning QB'ing a bit here.

Rolo is not very accurate and he cannot run very well either. We need to execute the swing pass a little better. That kind of pass should not be a bullet. He doesn't get the ball to the open guy very well. also, where the hell was groves? He could have been just what we needed.

I am disappointed in the loss but as hard as the players fought I am more optimistic than ever about bobcat football. We could have just as easily won that game. Anybody that watched that game could tell that we had the better athletes on the field but give the fiz credit for that one.

That should have been a non-issue. Jefferson got a HORRIBLE spot by the refs - at least a yard and a half shy of where he actually went down. I was celebrating a first down, then they marked him well short. Complete ineptitude by the refs. Attebury even said that.

Groves got knocked out the second play from scrimmage.
In one of your earlier posts he also said they were gaining yards on the spot of incomplete passes. I didn't hear his commentary, but I didn't see that part when I watched the game so I will take it with a grain of salt. I just didn't see how the refs cost this game.

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 11:40 am
by Weltercat
grizzh8r wrote:
Weltercat wrote:
bcats wrote:I thought our offensive play calling was s**t. The first half we were stuffing it down their throats running the ball. Then all of a sudden we decide to start throwing on first and second down. Rolo was off all day and I thought we could have ran the ball consistently throughout the day. 3rd and 1 interception when we finally get something going was a terrible call and poor execution. We played hard and could have won this game. Pray for a playoff berth.
I agree! I think we could have run the ball and taken control of this game. Although, I was not that disappointed in the play calling except that third down and one when he threw the deep ball. We needed to keep the defense off the field for a minute. Oh, and the deep hand off to Taito in the backfield on forth and short was a poor call in my opinion as well. I am Monday morning QB'ing a bit here.

Rolo is not very accurate and he cannot run very well either. We need to execute the swing pass a little better. That kind of pass should not be a bullet. He doesn't get the ball to the open guy very well. also, where the hell was groves? He could have been just what we needed.

I am disappointed in the loss but as hard as the players fought I am more optimistic than ever about bobcat football. We could have just as easily won that game. Anybody that watched that game could tell that we had the better athletes on the field but give the fiz credit for that one.

That should have been a non-issue. Jefferson got a HORRIBLE spot by the refs - at least a yard and a half shy of where he actually went down. I was celebrating a first down, then they marked him well short. Complete ineptitude by the refs. Attebury even said that.

Groves got knocked out the second play from scrimmage.
I was watching the game from a satellite party and ESPN waited to switch over to the cat /griz game until the Florida game with Western Carolina was over. It really pissed me off because Florida was winning 62-0 and we had to sit though the last six minutes of that game so I was unaware of Groves being hurt. The score was 3-0 by the time they turned the game on.

From what we could see on TV it did look like Jefferson got a bad spot on that play.

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 12:14 pm
by KillintheGriz
DCC2MSU wrote:
grizzh8r wrote:
Weltercat wrote:
bcats wrote:
In one of your earlier posts he also said they were gaining yards on the spot of incomplete passes. I didn't hear his commentary, but I didn't see that part when I watched the game so I will take it with a grain of salt. I just didn't see how the refs cost this game.
What about the face mask that resulted in the ball going off bosticks hands and ended up an interception. That was a bad call.

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 12:17 pm
by DCC2MSU
KillintheGriz wrote:
DCC2MSU wrote:
grizzh8r wrote:
Weltercat wrote:
bcats wrote:
In one of your earlier posts he also said they were gaining yards on the spot of incomplete passes. I didn't hear his commentary, but I didn't see that part when I watched the game so I will take it with a grain of salt. I just didn't see how the refs cost this game.
What about the face mask that resulted in the ball going off bosticks hands and ended up an interception. That was a bad call.
I'm not denying that was a bad call, but I don't think you can blame the loss on the refs. That is too easy and we would be all over the griz if they tried the same. Griz fans might feel that Lewis fumbled and we wouldn't have scored our first TD. Way too often we use the refs as a crutch for everything - even when we win. Despite every call made in that game, we had our chances to win.

edit: I was also saying that just because Atterbury says something (I didn't hear this particular comment but if he did say it) doesn't make it so. I didn't see them gaining yardage on the spot after incomplete passes once, much less multiple times. And if it were happening I would hope our own coaching staff and players would have caught it considering they had a pretty good view of the game.

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 12:20 pm
by grizzh8r
DCC2MSU wrote:I'm not denying that was a bad call, but I don't think you can blame the loss on the refs. That is too easy and we would be all over the griz if they tried the same. Griz fans might feel that Lewis fumbled and we wouldn't have scored our first TD. Way too often we use the refs as a crutch for everything - even when we win. Despite every call made in that game, we had our chances to win.
I stated that we had our chances (in the gameday thread), but the officiating screwed our offense at least a half a dozen times, all at crucial points during the game. Is it too much to ask to have good officiating at all times? IT JUST SHOULD NOT HAPPEN LIKE THAT.

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 12:25 pm
by rtb
Really? I can't say that the officials did a poor job yesterday. Sure they maybe made some mistakes, but the officials didn't lose the game for us. Our inept offense is what lost the game. Why is our offense inept? He is bald and sits in the booth.

I understand wanting the big play on 3rd and 1. If you do that is why you play action that. You don't come out in shotgun formation. That was one of the worst decisions I have seen in my entire life. I really hope that Don Bailey is invited to find a job in a new city.