BSC Coach of the Year

anacondagriz · Post by **anacondagriz** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 7:29 pm

If you had a vote who would it go to & why? No smack PLEASE!!!!

Swilly3224 · Post by **Swilly3224** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 7:33 pm

Hauck as of right now, any coach to run through a conference without a lose is pretty good. No expceptions.

Cats beat the Griz, Kramers gets the nod

anacondagriz · Post by **anacondagriz** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 7:43 pm

On 2nd thought it is probably a bit early for this poll since some teams still have 2 games left. That said I voted Mooshagian, any coach who can win 4 conference games in Sacto is doing something right.

Egg Salad · Post by **Egg Salad** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 7:45 pm

I say Hauck, unless the Griz drop the last two for some reason. It's pretty cool the Cats have dug themselves out of a hole, but something has to be said for not getting in the hole in the first place.

tetoncat · Post by **tetoncat** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 7:50 pm

So do you win coach of the year for getting the results that everyone expected? I think if Kramer wins out and gets the crown he is definitely the winner. It is BSC coach of the year and should be primarily based on the conference results. If a coach lost beat 3 1-A teams in nonconference but finished 4th in the conference he would not get the nod. Kramer would take a team picked high but not expected to win and is guaranteed at least 2nd right now. pretty good.

GrizinWashington · Post by **GrizinWashington** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 10:31 pm

This is a tough call. It's hard to vote for a coach who lost 3 straight games at home, one to a DII, one to a lower division conference team and another by 45. But unless Hauck can run the table, he's only doing what was expected. But there certainly isn't anyone else deserving.

bobcatgrad2005 · Post by **bobcatgrad2005** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 6:58 am

I think Kramer is more involved in this early season turn around than we think he is. Remember his defensive background? The defense suddenly returned to playing lights out after giving up 45 points to Cal-Davis.

He denys it, but I have my doubts as to whether or not Christoff is totally in charge of the defense anymore.

So if Kramer is involved, that's an incredible feat of coaching.

bobcatmaniac · Post by **bobcatmaniac** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 7:11 am

I voted for Kramer. Sure the cats lost those three in September, but Kramer took those loses, dealt with the team and turned this season around. It is easy to walk on flat ground. Lets see what you do when you are in turmoil.

Bleedinbluengold · Post by **Bleedinbluengold** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 7:15 am

Depending on how Sacto and the Vikes end up, I would go with either Walsh or Moosh.

I agree that the 3-game fade at home eliminates Krames. I have a problem voting any griz coach as COY because I'm not sure how much of the success is coaching, and how much is stadium related. I think Walsh did more with less, but Moosh is right there. This is the first season that I can remember where the Vikes did not fade away, and most of their guys are transfers. It takes a heckuva effort to get a team of transients to play together, and Walsh got that done this year. So, I vote Walsh.

Eastcoastgriz · Post by **Eastcoastgriz** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 7:31 am

Bobby Hauck could walk on water, cure cancer and negotiate world peace and most cats still wouldn't vote for him.

Any coach that goes undefeated in the BSC deserves coach of the year.

Billings_Griz · Post by **Billings_Griz** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 8:22 am

I'm w/ Swilly.

Sure hope the Griz aren't looking past UNC this weekend.

Hell's Bells · Post by **Hell's Bells** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 9:06 am

i vote for mooshigan out of sactow

they are third place in a year where they should have been worse then northern colorado.

now lets see sac build on this year for next!

CARDIAC_CATS · Post by **CARDIAC_CATS** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 9:07 am

Cats beat Colorado, get BIG SKY and MSU huge press at beginning of the season. Then has to pretty much go 7 wins a row (under huge pressure) in order to make the playoffs (Big Sky Co Champs). He gets that done, and he is COACH OF THE YEAR in my opinion.

WYCAT · Post by **WYCAT** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 9:49 am

Although all of that is pretty impressive Cardiac - I still can't overlook the 3 game stink fest that was September. As good a job as Kramer has done since the NAU game it was that bad from Chadron to EWU. If I had to vote right now I would have to say Hauck. Where they are without their star RB and the transfer QB who hasn't really done all they had hoped is pretty impressive to me.

El_Gato · Post by **El_Gato** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 9:55 am

Right now?

I voted for Bobby, believe it or not (I'm ready to dial 911 for any of you who need medical assistance!).

IF the vote is what's happened to date, Bobby gets the nod for having just 1 loss to a good DI team.

If the Griz win in 2 weeks, the vote stands; WHEN the Cats prevail, I'm switching to Kramer (although it's still tough to swallow/explain games 2-4).

Post by **rtb** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:11 am

Interesting editorial in today's Chronicle about how the coach from UNC should be the coach of the year. He has held a team together and had them still playing to win when it would be very easy for them all to just shut down for the season. It was a great article and I will see if I can get it posted here.

I have a hard time giving Kramer or Hauck the nod. Their teams are right where everyone expected them to be.

Kramer did turn this team around but what caused the 3 game slide? I would say if a coach is getting credit for the good, they need to be blamed for the bad and so I just don't think he is the coach of the year this year.

KillintheGriz · Post by **KillintheGriz** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:24 am

rtb wrote:Interesting editorial in today's Chronicle about how the coach from UNC should be the coach of the year. He has held a team together and had them still playing to win when it would be very easy for them all to just shut down for the season. It was a great article and I will see if I can get it posted here.

I have a hard time giving Kramer or Hauck the nod. Their teams are right where everyone expected them to be.

Kramer did turn this team around but what caused the 3 game slide? I would say if a coach is getting credit for the good, they need to be blamed for the bad and so I just don't think he is the coach of the year this year.

preseason coaches polls had the Cats finishing 4th or 5th in Big Sky. When we finish 1st, Kramer greatly outperformed all other coaches.

083190 · Post by **083190** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:51 am

Killin' is on the money. Mooshagian had a good year as well. Anytine Sac wins this many, the coach has overperformed. The Cats were picked fifth, UM was picked first. Who exceeded expectations?

El_Gato · Post by **El_Gato** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:56 am

Yes, but that's ONLY if we beat the Griz.

I voted for Bobby simply because he's won every game except for their obvious L against Iowa. If the Griz had 2 or 3 L's right now, I'd be voting for Kramer.

WYCAT · Post by **WYCAT** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:57 am

Where are you getting your numbers? According to the preseason polls we were picked 3rd in the coaches poll and 2nd in the media poll.

http://www.bigskyconf.com/article.asp?articleid=79658

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