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Does the Gazette even read their own articles/headlines??

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 8:27 am
by HelenaCat95
This is horrible.
Headline reads: "Montana tops conference foe Weber State."

http://www.billingsgazette.net/articles ... 5-cats.txt

WE ARE MONTANA STATE you idiots. :evil: That is insulting, and should deserve a not so happy call from the MSU Sports Info department.

Gazette, you don't do yourself any favors, or improve your credibility with mistakes like this.


And I know this is little, but in a pretty good article by Rahac, he says that we have two impact transfers from Arizona - Beach and Jefferson. Actually, it's three with Kolone. Not nearly as embarrasing as the above headline however.

http://www.billingsgazette.net/articles ... -beach.txt

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 10:06 am
by BelgradeBobcat
It's pretty obvious that the grizette just doesn't care. I wonder if any other state's largest city's newspaper shows such apathy towards their land grant university's athletic programs.

Go Montana Bears!

Re: Does the Gazette even read their own articles/headlines?

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 10:31 am
by catastic
HelenaCat95 wrote:This is horrible.
Headline reads: "Montana tops conference foe Weber State."

http://www.billingsgazette.net/articles ... 5-cats.txt

WE ARE MONTANA STATE you idiots. :evil: That is insulting, and should deserve a not so happy call from the MSU Sports Info department.

Gazette, you don't do yourself any favors, or improve your credibility with mistakes like this.


And I know this is little, but in a pretty good article by Rahac, he says that we have two impact transfers from Arizona - Beach and Jefferson. Actually, it's three with Kolone. Not nearly as embarrasing as the above headline however.

http://www.billingsgazette.net/articles ... -beach.txt
I dont know if you misread the article heading but it does say Montana State...

Re: Does the Gazette even read their own articles/headlines?

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 10:57 am
by badasscat
catastic wrote:
HelenaCat95 wrote:This is horrible.
Headline reads: "Montana tops conference foe Weber State."

http://www.billingsgazette.net/articles ... 5-cats.txt

WE ARE MONTANA STATE you idiots. :evil: That is insulting, and should deserve a not so happy call from the MSU Sports Info department.

Gazette, you don't do yourself any favors, or improve your credibility with mistakes like this.


And I know this is little, but in a pretty good article by Rahac, he says that we have two impact transfers from Arizona - Beach and Jefferson. Actually, it's three with Kolone. Not nearly as embarrasing as the above headline however.

http://www.billingsgazette.net/articles ... -beach.txt
I dont know if you misread the article heading but it does say Montana State...
If you look at the bottom of the article you will see that it was modified after HelenaCat95's post. Maybe the author is a BN fan.

Re: Does the Gazette even read their own articles/headlines?

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 11:03 am
by longhorn_22
catastic wrote:
HelenaCat95 wrote:This is horrible.
Headline reads: "Montana tops conference foe Weber State."

http://www.billingsgazette.net/articles ... 5-cats.txt

WE ARE MONTANA STATE you idiots. :evil: That is insulting, and should deserve a not so happy call from the MSU Sports Info department.

Gazette, you don't do yourself any favors, or improve your credibility with mistakes like this.


And I know this is little, but in a pretty good article by Rahac, he says that we have two impact transfers from Arizona - Beach and Jefferson. Actually, it's three with Kolone. Not nearly as embarrasing as the above headline however.

http://www.billingsgazette.net/articles ... -beach.txt
I dont know if you misread the article heading but it does say Montana State...
They changed it back.

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 11:58 am
by bobcatmaniac
I wonder how it came out in the hard copy? :?

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 12:28 pm
by Billings_Griz
Well, change the "M" on your helmet to "MSU" and maybe they'll get it right. :lol:

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 12:43 pm
by MSU Toddler
Well, change the "M" on your helmet to "MSU" and maybe they'll get it right.
this reminds me of what a comedian once said . . . you can say anything about someone as long as you follow it with "god bless him". it works - try it at work tomorrow with your boss....

example: that billingsgriz is a rotten son-of-a-gun that can't spell "boo" if you give him the first three letters, god bless him.

maybe i shouldn't have started this.....all in good fun.

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 12:49 pm
by bobcatmaniac
God bless you, toddler :lol: :lol: :wink:

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 1:19 pm
by HelenaCat95
The Gazette changed their headline AFTER "oldcat", "belgradebobcat" and myself (under the name "What??") all posted on their site that they had screwed it up.

The news media has made me mad for years, but when they mess up elementary details IN THE HEADLINE, I get embarrassed for them, and have trouble believing other things that they portray as fact.

By the way....did you know that Dewey beat Truman??? :wink:

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 1:43 pm
by Egg Salad
Since it was an AP article, you can read it countless other places. Instead of being upset with the Gazette, I would do that.

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 2:11 pm
by HelenaCat95
Egg Salad wrote:Since it was an AP article, you can read it countless other places. Instead of being upset with the Gazette, I would do that.
I'm a little confused by your post, so I will answer in a couple of ways.


1) Are you saying that it was messed up in other papers??

Show me where else the headline was messed up.

For example, here is the same AP story from the Chronicle - Headline reads: "Montana St. 24, Weber St. 18"
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/F/ ... 8-21-57-38

It is a Gazette headline. They have editors that put those headlines on there - which is why you can read AP articles in many papers with different headlines.

Even if, as you may be suggesting, it is the AP's mess up - shouldn't the Gazette (and any other paper that prints it) proof read it? After all, it is the Gazette's credibility on the line when they publish it.


or 2) Are you saying that I should stop reading the Gazette and instead get my news elsewhere?

That makes a little more sense. Unfortunately, in my line of work I need to be informed on what people across Montana are reading. Thus, I need to read many different papers in order to see what the reader is seeing.

I have been on the wrong end of the news media messing up, and then they printed their "correction" on page three of the second section. I am not on a one-man crusade, but I will take every opportunity I can to point out mistakes that they make. The news media can, and does ruin lives. Sometimes intentional, most of the time inadvertant. But for the majority of the population, there is not much that we can do about it if we find ourselves on the wrong side of a media "mistake".

In the big scheme of things, this is a very minor mistake. But letting the little mistakes slide makes the big mistakes possible....and subsequently believable.

If I have mischaracterized your post, I apologize - and I will print a correction on page three, subsection 5, at the bottom of the page (just kidding Egg Salad :wink: )

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 2:20 pm
by Egg Salad
HelenaCat95 wrote:
Egg Salad wrote:Since it was an AP article, you can read it countless other places. Instead of being upset with the Gazette, I would do that.
I'm a little confused by your post, so I will answer in a couple of ways.


1) Are you saying that it was messed up in other papers??

Show me where else the headline was messed up.

For example, here is the same AP story from the Chronicle - Headline reads: "Montana St. 24, Weber St. 18"
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/F/ ... 8-21-57-38

It is a Gazette headline. They have editors that put those headlines on there - which is why you can read AP articles in many papers with different headlines.

Even if, as you may be suggesting, it is the AP's mess up - shouldn't the Gazette (and any other paper that prints it) proof read it? After all, it is the Gazette's credibility on the line when they publish it.


or 2) Are you saying that I should stop reading the Gazette and instead get my news elsewhere?

That makes a little more sense. Unfortunately, in my line of work I need to be informed on what people across Montana are reading. Thus, I need to read many different papers in order to see what the reader is seeing.

I have been on the wrong end of the news media messing up, and then they printed their "correction" on page three of the second section. I am not on a one-man crusade, but I will take every opportunity I can to point out mistakes that they make. The news media can, and does ruin lives. Sometimes intentional, most of the time inadvertant. But for the majority of the population, there is not much that we can do about it if we find ourselves on the wrong side of a media "mistake".

In the big scheme of things, this is a very minor mistake. But letting the little mistakes slide makes the big mistakes possible....and subsequently believable.

If I have mischaracterized your post, I apologize - and I will print a correction on page three, subsection 5, at the bottom of the page (just kidding Egg Salad :wink: )
I was just saying you can get the exact same story (with a different headling) many other places. If the Gazette upsets people that bad, read it somewhere else. People who go to the site are just giving the Gazette more money from advertisers. Stick it to the man.

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 2:27 pm
by HelenaCat95
Egg Salad wrote:
HelenaCat95 wrote:
Egg Salad wrote:Since it was an AP article, you can read it countless other places. Instead of being upset with the Gazette, I would do that.
I'm a little confused by your post, so I will answer in a couple of ways.


1) Are you saying that it was messed up in other papers??

Show me where else the headline was messed up.

For example, here is the same AP story from the Chronicle - Headline reads: "Montana St. 24, Weber St. 18"
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/F/ ... 8-21-57-38

It is a Gazette headline. They have editors that put those headlines on there - which is why you can read AP articles in many papers with different headlines.

Even if, as you may be suggesting, it is the AP's mess up - shouldn't the Gazette (and any other paper that prints it) proof read it? After all, it is the Gazette's credibility on the line when they publish it.


or 2) Are you saying that I should stop reading the Gazette and instead get my news elsewhere?

That makes a little more sense. Unfortunately, in my line of work I need to be informed on what people across Montana are reading. Thus, I need to read many different papers in order to see what the reader is seeing.

I have been on the wrong end of the news media messing up, and then they printed their "correction" on page three of the second section. I am not on a one-man crusade, but I will take every opportunity I can to point out mistakes that they make. The news media can, and does ruin lives. Sometimes intentional, most of the time inadvertant. But for the majority of the population, there is not much that we can do about it if we find ourselves on the wrong side of a media "mistake".

In the big scheme of things, this is a very minor mistake. But letting the little mistakes slide makes the big mistakes possible....and subsequently believable.

If I have mischaracterized your post, I apologize - and I will print a correction on page three, subsection 5, at the bottom of the page (just kidding Egg Salad :wink: )
I was just saying you can get the exact same story (with a different headling) many other places. If the Gazette upsets people that bad, read it somewhere else. People who go to the site are just giving the Gazette more money from advertisers. Stick it to the man.
I'm with you...and wish I could.
But the Gazette (and the Tribune) are a lot like the New York Times and Washington Post nationally. By that I mean that their coverage and takes on stories many times lead the way for other papers in the state. Nationally, people read the NYT and Wash Post, not because they like the paper but because they want to see where other papers are going, before those other papers get there. And as I said, I have to keep up on these things for my line of work. If no one else read the Gazette, I wouldn't either.

The Internet may be open to many types of abuse, but when it comes to fighting "Big Media", it is one of the tools that the little guy has to fight back.

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 2:32 pm
by BelgradeBobcat
By the way: What was the headline in the print edition? Anybody see it?

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 7:42 am
by Cat in NC
HelenaCat95 wrote:The Gazette changed their headline AFTER "oldcat", "belgradebobcat" and myself (under the name "What??") all posted on their site that they had screwed it up.

The news media has made me mad for years, but when they mess up elementary details IN THE HEADLINE, I get embarrassed for them, and have trouble believing other things that they portray as fact.

By the way....did you know that Dewey beat Truman??? :wink:
What was the score? Did Truman have a bunch of turnovers? I tell ya, Dewey's running backs are something to behold.

Re: Does the Gazette even read their own articles/headlines?

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 10:10 am
by CARDIAC_CATS
HelenaCat95 wrote:This is horrible.
Headline reads: "Montana tops conference foe Weber State."

http://www.billingsgazette.net/articles ... 5-cats.txt

WE ARE MONTANA STATE you idiots. :evil: That is insulting, and should deserve a not so happy call from the MSU Sports Info department.

Gazette, you don't do yourself any favors, or improve your credibility with mistakes like this.


And I know this is little, but in a pretty good article by Rahac, he says that we have two impact transfers from Arizona - Beach and Jefferson. Actually, it's three with Kolone. Not nearly as embarrasing as the above headline however.

http://www.billingsgazette.net/articles ... -beach.txt
I live in Billings and just LAUGH at those YAHOOOS running the Gazette. No effort and no research at all.

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 10:17 am
by Cat-theotherwhitemeat
BelgradeBobcat wrote:By the way: What was the headline in the print edition? Anybody see it?
The print edition looked ok.