The Race to the Big Sky Title

KillintheGriz · Post by **KillintheGriz** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 9:10 am

OK, we lost to EWU. Big deal. EWU is not going to contend for the Big SKy title. We lost to a team that won't have ramifications when it comes to tiebreakers at the end of the season. PSU, NAU and UM are the KEY wins of the season. These are must have wins for any chance of MSU winning outright or tieing for the title. With tiebreakers, we win the conference title and the guaranteed trip to the postseason if we have wins against the above teams. Today either UM or PSU will have one loss in Big Sky play. Cats need a W today to turn this program around. If we win today then against PSU next week at home, we coast into Missoula for the conference title.

twentythreeOh4 · Post by **twentythreeOh4** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 9:48 am

KillintheGriz wrote:OK, we lost to EWU. Big deal. EWU is not going to contend for the Big SKy title. We lost to a team that won't have ramifications when it comes to tiebreakers at the end of the season. PSU, NAU and UM are the KEY wins of the season. These are must have wins for any chance of MSU winning outright or tieing for the title. With tiebreakers, we win the conference title and the guaranteed trip to the postseason if we have wins against the above teams. Today either UM or PSU will have one loss in Big Sky play. Cats need a W today to turn this program around. If we win today then against PSU next week at home, we coast into Missoula for the conference title.

After the last 3 weeks, I think it's safe to say the Bobcats are not good enough to coast against anybody this league.

Cledus · Post by **Cledus** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 10:16 am

PSU, NAU and UM are the KEY wins of the season. These are must have wins for any chance of MSU winning outright or tieing for the title. With tiebreakers, we win the conference title and the guaranteed trip to the postseason if we have wins against the above teams.

I can't speak for everyone, but I'm hungrier for more than a tie for the conference.

OK, we lost to EWU. Big deal. EWU is not going to contend for the Big SKy title.

It's not a big deal the Cats can't beat a team that's horrible?

KillintheGriz · Post by **KillintheGriz** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 12:56 pm

OK, we lost to EWU. Big deal. EWU is not going to contend for the Big SKy title.

It's not a big deal the Cats can't beat a team that's horrible?[/quote]

The big deal comment applied to tie breakers at the end of the season. The loss was a big deal when it comes to showing the weaknesses of the program. Coaching decisions need to be made to right this ship. Remember Kramer said after the loss against UC Davis that Carpenter was not feeling great and his teammates needed to have stepped up and played better to help him out. Then Carpenter stunk again against EWU with the coaches saying he's not making reads correctly. He's had four games plus 2-3 years of watching film under Lulay. It's time for a change. There has to be change right now or the season is over. He has not proven he can lead this team. I was a Carpenter supporter before the season started but changes have to be made so QB is a good place to start.

With the Regents approving 3 year contracts, Kramer is done after this year unless he takes us into postseason. Fields will not renew his contract for three more years if the season is subpar as he'll have a lot of pressure from boosters to make a change. If we lose against NAU, Kramer will need to start passing out his resume. I think the team with one loss wins the Big Sky this year--and it will most likely be PSU if they win today.

tailbone · Post by **tailbone** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 2:00 pm

KillintheGriz wrote:............... I think the team with one loss wins the Big Sky this year--and it will most likely be PSU if they win today.

And if they don't.....?

Anyway re: Kramer, can't Fields offer another 1 year contract with the provision of a better performance to earn a three year contract?

And if so....will Kramer want to stay after receiving an ultimatum despite his performance (off field as well as on) to date?

94VegasCat · Post by **94VegasCat** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 2:41 pm

I thought that the Regent granted the possibility of being able to give up to three contracts?

Kramer gets to stay one year no matter what happens this year, if he wants to anyway. I think that if he is here next year, he will have had to have made some serious changes in his offensive coaching staff.

GOKATS · Post by **GOKATS** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 2:48 pm

94VegasCat wrote:I thought that the Regent granted the possibility of being able to give up to three contracts?

Kramer gets to stay one year no matter what happens this year, if he wants to anyway. I think that if he is here next year, he will have had to have made some serious changes in his offensive coaching staff.

You're correct about the contracts- nothing is automatic or mandatory about the 3 year contract. It is an option as opposed to the past mandatory 1 year contract.

You're also correct about Kramer. No matter how this year finishes he will not be fired at the end of the season. If this year ends up real bad and next year is similar, then Fields would have to look at the situation.

KillintheGriz · Post by **KillintheGriz** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 3:09 pm

GOKATS wrote:
94VegasCat wrote:I thought that the Regent granted the possibility of being able to give up to three contracts?

Kramer gets to stay one year no matter what happens this year, if he wants to anyway. I think that if he is here next year, he will have had to have made some serious changes in his offensive coaching staff.
You're correct about the contracts- nothing is automatic or mandatory about the 3 year contract. It is an option as opposed to the past mandatory 1 year contract.

You're also correct about Kramer. No matter how this year finishes he will not be fired at the end of the season. If this year ends up real bad and next year is similar, then Fields would have to look at the situation.

That's good to hear as I'd like to see Kramer get the credit for the wins next year.

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