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RB Group
Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 4:46 pm
by Catsrgrood
Edit with the news of White and Davis staying.
Assuming we have this same group going into fall camp, I’d say it’s still very deep now.
The 2024 had an embarrassment of riches at this position. We’re losing half of that to the portal it seems.
Does this position go from crazy deep to adequately deep? Is there any concern with depth at this point?
Julius Davis- we now know he’s coming back.
Adam Jones- we know what we have here, legit stud who could be all over the record books if he continues doing what he did this year, but is he big enough to be a 20 carry/game up the middle type back?
Colson Coon- looked good in fairly limited reps this year. Still young, could be a great 1-2 punch.
Unterrio Latin-Henley- looked promising in very limited touches this year, I’ve heard good things, May be a star in the making.
Scottre Humphrey- gone
Jared White- change of heat it looks like and he will be back.
Elijah Elliott- gone. He didn’t play this year, so as far as what we saw on the field in 24’ this isn’t a “loss”, but he was good when healthy in prior years and when he got a shot. Seemed like a great teammate, wish this dude the best. I wish he stuck around his last year to contribute, but totally understand the situation.
I think the answer if Davis comes back is that we’re still plenty deep.
But if he’s not back, do we roll with what we have? Anticipate a transfer to help with depth?
Re: RB Group
Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 4:49 pm
by VimSince03
Catsrgrood wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2025 4:46 pm
The 2024 had an embarrassment of riches at this position. We’re losing half of that to the portal it seems.
Does this position go from crazy deep to adequately deep? Is there any concern with depth at this point?
Julius Davis- may or may not be back next year? No official word yet here. Would be great to have him back with his punishing style of running to complement what Jones does.
Adam Jones- we know what we have here, legit stud who could be all over the record books if he continues doing what he did this year, but is he big enough to be a 20 carry/game up the middle type back?
Colson Coon- looked good in fairly limited reps this year. Still young, could be a great 1-2 punch.
Unterrio Latin-Henley- looked promising in very limited touches this year, I’ve heard good things, May be a star in the making.
Scottre Humphrey- gone
Jared White- gone
Elijah Elliott- gone. He didn’t play this year, so as far as what we saw on the field in 24’ this isn’t a “loss”, but he was good when healthy in prior years and when he got a shot. Seemed like a great teammate, wish this dude the best. I wish he stuck around his last year to contribute, but totally understand the situation.
I think the answer if Davis comes back is that we’re still plenty deep.
But if he’s not back, do we roll with what we have? Anticipate a transfer to help with depth?
Jones/Coon/Henley is a really good and dynamic backfield. We also have two freshman coming in with Claunch and Kornachuk. However, I'd expect one more transfer or signee by the time spring ball gets here. One thing we all likely noticed in the title game, Jones outsnapped Humphrey, had more YPC than Scottre, and is more of a threat out of the backfield as a receiver. Jones is the clear RB1 even if Davis does come back.
Re: RB Group
Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 4:54 pm
by technoCat
Didn't we have another stud running back recruit coming in next year? Obviously, Vigen has no problem playing freshman at the position if they have IT.
Re: RB Group
Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 4:58 pm
by Lord Vigo
I think the question of the RB group has everything to do with the program's internal perspective on Latin-Henley and Claunch. If they think both guys can be contributors sooner rather than later and if Davis comes back, there's no dire need at the position. If one of those things isn't true, I can see it being a position for a transfer.
Re: RB Group
Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 5:02 pm
by BelligerentBobcat
They need to bring in a power back in the worst way.
Re: RB Group
Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 5:03 pm
by MountainCat
VimSince03 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2025 4:49 pm
Catsrgrood wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2025 4:46 pm
The 2024 had an embarrassment of riches at this position. We’re losing half of that to the portal it seems.
Does this position go from crazy deep to adequately deep? Is there any concern with depth at this point?
Julius Davis- may or may not be back next year? No official word yet here. Would be great to have him back with his punishing style of running to complement what Jones does.
Adam Jones- we know what we have here, legit stud who could be all over the record books if he continues doing what he did this year, but is he big enough to be a 20 carry/game up the middle type back?
Colson Coon- looked good in fairly limited reps this year. Still young, could be a great 1-2 punch.
Unterrio Latin-Henley- looked promising in very limited touches this year, I’ve heard good things, May be a star in the making.
Scottre Humphrey- gone
Jared White- gone
Elijah Elliott- gone. He didn’t play this year, so as far as what we saw on the field in 24’ this isn’t a “loss”, but he was good when healthy in prior years and when he got a shot. Seemed like a great teammate, wish this dude the best. I wish he stuck around his last year to contribute, but totally understand the situation.
I think the answer if Davis comes back is that we’re still plenty deep.
But if he’s not back, do we roll with what we have? Anticipate a transfer to help with depth?
Jones/Coon/Henley is a really good and dynamic backfield. We also have two freshman coming in with Claunch and Kornachuk. However, I'd expect one more transfer or signee by the time spring ball gets here. One thing we all likely noticed in the title game, Jones outsnapped Humphrey, had more YPC than Scottre, and is more of a threat out of the backfield as a receiver. Jones is the clear RB1 even if Davis does come back.
I was considering the Jones/Humphrey shift earlier today and I believe you are right Vim. Whatever order we fans perceived the backs in, it sure seemed that Jones was starting to take over snaps deeper into the season (I realize Humphrey was hurt)He may be less punishing as a runner, but he also seemed more adept at slipping through holes and breaking off yards while Humphrey sometimes looked for contact. Having Adam Jones as RB 1 n t season (assuming no Julius Davis) is a really good starting point that we can build behind. He has 8 months to put on a bit of weight and build those legs up, he may be a monster next season.
Re: RB Group
Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 5:32 pm
by Monymony
Do we get a portal RB? Would’ve sounded crazy a couples days ago but we did just have 3 guys leave and we need a hard nosed RB if Julius leaves
Re: RB Group
Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 5:36 pm
by mslacatfan
Man…. I really hope Julius returns. Would be fun to watch him next year.
Re: RB Group
Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 5:48 pm
by SparkCat
Listening to dome older player interviews, a few stated that Henley is a dude and was causing serious problems on scout team for the number 1 defense. From what I saw from him is, he’s hard to bring down and when contact his going to be made his legs/knees become weapons.
Re: RB Group
Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 5:53 pm
by TomCat88
SparkCat wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2025 5:48 pm
Listening to dome older player interviews, a few stated that Henley is a dude and was causing serious problems on scout team for the number 1 defense. From what I saw from him is, he’s hard to bring down and when contact his going to be made his legs/knees become weapons.
Great hands and knows how to set himself up to run after the catch as long as the pass isn’t too off.
Re: RB Group
Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 5:56 pm
by BleedingBLue
Personally, I don't think Claunch will be ready to contribute for a year or two.
Re: RB Group
Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 6:10 pm
by Prodigal Cat
Are we sure that Davis is in the portal? I have yet to see anything concrete that Julius has entered. The first post on here that started this rumor was posted by GoCats18 who is a dubious poster (sorry but your history here isn't great). I'm not sure he is leaving yet. He might but I have yet to see anything from a source I trust.
Re: RB Group
Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 6:20 pm
by Bocephus
TomCat88 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2025 5:53 pm
SparkCat wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2025 5:48 pm
Listening to dome older player interviews, a few stated that Henley is a dude and was causing serious problems on scout team for the number 1 defense. From what I saw from him is, he’s hard to bring down and when contact his going to be made his legs/knees become weapons.
Great hands and knows how to set himself up to run after the catch as long as the pass isn’t too off.
You could see the wow factor even on some of KO returns.
Re: RB Group
Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 6:36 pm
by catatac
I'd be shocked if Vigen doesn't find and bring in a legit FBS RB that is stuck behind a high NFL draft guy. They're out there. I bet we do that even if we have five RBs on the roster we all feel good about. I've learned my lesson on that over the past few years... i.e. thinking four or five studs is enough.
Re: RB Group
Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 6:47 pm
by Catsrgrood
Prodigal Cat wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2025 6:10 pm
Are we sure that Davis is in the portal? I have yet to see anything concrete that Julius has entered. The first post on here that started this rumor was posted by GoCats18 who is a dubious poster (sorry but your history here isn't great). I'm not sure he is leaving yet. He might but I have yet to see anything from a source I trust.
No we’re not sure at all. That’s why there are a whole lot of “if” statements in here. He very well may be back. But if there is one thing I’ve learned in all of these portal conversations over the last few years is that it’s not hard to read between the lines with some of these posts and where there’s smoke there is often times fire.
Could be off, he may be back, I hope he is, but nothing is certain one way or another.
Re: RB Group
Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 7:25 pm
by KIX
Catsrgrood wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2025 4:46 pm
The 2024 had an embarrassment of riches at this position. We’re losing half of that to the portal it seems.
Does this position go from crazy deep to adequately deep? Is there any concern with depth at this point?
Julius Davis- may or may not be back next year? No official word yet here. Would be great to have him back with his punishing style of running to complement what Jones does.
Adam Jones- we know what we have here, legit stud who could be all over the record books if he continues doing what he did this year, but is he big enough to be a 20 carry/game up the middle type back?
Colson Coon- looked good in fairly limited reps this year. Still young, could be a great 1-2 punch.
Unterrio Latin-Henley- looked promising in very limited touches this year, I’ve heard good things, May be a star in the making.
Scottre Humphrey- gone
Jared White- gone
Elijah Elliott- gone. He didn’t play this year, so as far as what we saw on the field in 24’ this isn’t a “loss”, but he was good when healthy in prior years and when he got a shot. Seemed like a great teammate, wish this dude the best. I wish he stuck around his last year to contribute, but totally understand the situation.
I think the answer if Davis comes back is that we’re still plenty deep.
But if he’s not back, do we roll with what we have? Anticipate a transfer to help with depth?
Davis seems injury riddled since he got here and i think he had the same issues at Wisconsin. Rather see Vigen go a different direction.
Re: RB Group
Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 7:34 pm
by BelligerentBobcat
I’m not that crazy about the RB group as it stands.
Jones is good, but is he ready to be a lead back? Needs to add size and strength.
Coon is fine to spell guys, shouldn’t be a lead back or even RB2 if we’re being honest.
I don’t have any confidence that Davis can stay healthy, if he’s even staying. He also didn’t seem as explosive when he came back. Did he lose the juice? Just slow coming back from injury? I don’t know.
ULH appears to be dynamic, but he’s slight. Can he break tackles or is he better suited as a 3rd down back right now?
I think they desperately need bigger back, or two, that can play the lead role. Ideally a drop down, but I’d look for someone from another FCS school too. Anthony Woods (formerly of Idaho) isn’t a bigger back but he’s transferring from Utah. Could be a decent add.
Re: RB Group
Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 7:49 pm
by Prodigal Cat
BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2025 7:34 pm
I’m not that crazy about the RB group as it stands.
Jones is good, but is he ready to be a lead back? Needs to add size and strength.
Coon is fine to spell guys, shouldn’t be a lead back or even RB2 if we’re being honest.
I don’t have any confidence that Davis can stay healthy, if he’s even staying. He also didn’t seem as explosive when he came back. Did he lose the juice? Just slow coming back from injury? I don’t know.
ULH appears to be dynamic, but he’s slight. Can he break tackles or is he better suited as a 3rd down back right now?
I think they desperately need bigger back, or two, that can play the lead role. Ideally a drop down, but I’d look for someone from another FCS school too. Anthony Woods (formerly of Idaho) isn’t a bigger back but he’s transferring from Utah. Could be a decent add.
Jones has been the lead back for 2 months.
Re: RB Group
Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 7:54 pm
by SparkCat
KIX wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2025 7:25 pm
Catsrgrood wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2025 4:46 pm
The 2024 had an embarrassment of riches at this position. We’re losing half of that to the portal it seems.
Does this position go from crazy deep to adequately deep? Is there any concern with depth at this point?
Julius Davis- may or may not be back next year? No official word yet here. Would be great to have him back with his punishing style of running to complement what Jones does.
Adam Jones- we know what we have here, legit stud who could be all over the record books if he continues doing what he did this year, but is he big enough to be a 20 carry/game up the middle type back?
Colson Coon- looked good in fairly limited reps this year. Still young, could be a great 1-2 punch.
Unterrio Latin-Henley- looked promising in very limited touches this year, I’ve heard good things, May be a star in the making.
Scottre Humphrey- gone
Jared White- gone
Elijah Elliott- gone. He didn’t play this year, so as far as what we saw on the field in 24’ this isn’t a “loss”, but he was good when healthy in prior years and when he got a shot. Seemed like a great teammate, wish this dude the best. I wish he stuck around his last year to contribute, but totally understand the situation.
I think the answer if Davis comes back is that we’re still plenty deep.
But if he’s not back, do we roll with what we have? Anticipate a transfer to help with depth?
Davis seems injury riddled since he got here and i think he had the same issues at Wisconsin. Rather see Vigen go a different direction.
Davis I believe was destined for big things and has been fighting injuries since his senior year in high school.
Re: RB Group
Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 7:56 pm
by SparkCat
BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2025 7:34 pm
I’m not that crazy about the RB group as it stands.
Jones is good, but is he ready to be a lead back? Needs to add size and strength.
Coon is fine to spell guys, shouldn’t be a lead back or even RB2 if we’re being honest.
I don’t have any confidence that Davis can stay healthy, if he’s even staying. He also didn’t seem as explosive when he came back. Did he lose the juice? Just slow coming back from injury? I don’t know.
ULH appears to be dynamic, but he’s slight. Can he break tackles or is he better suited as a 3rd down back right now?
I think they desperately need bigger back, or two, that can play the lead role. Ideally a drop down, but I’d look for someone from another FCS school too. Anthony Woods (formerly of Idaho) isn’t a bigger back but he’s transferring from Utah. Could be a decent add.
I don’t agree on all your takes, however, I agree that, if you mean with actual size, a bigger back would be great. USD’s back was incredible, would love to have a big mean guy back there.