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This Year's Coaching Staff
Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2024 3:00 pm
by nanacat
There have been mentions in other threads from time to time, but these guys deserve a thread of their own.
Watching the first half of last night's game today, which I missed, and hearing Ty and Ben talk about the play calling, etc., and also listening to the podcasts last week, I just think this group of coaches has just been phenomenal! The players have mentioned them in interviews, the trust with calls, I mean it's just different than year's past.
Vigen has a group of coaches working with him that are keeping the team grounded (1-0), setting them up for success with solid play calling, letting the players play to their strengths, in game adjustments, etc. It's just been so impressive.
Biggest concern if this season does end up winning it all is how many coaches do we keep?
Re: This Year's Coaching Staff
Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2024 3:13 pm
by seataccat
Vigen has made some good hires. How could Al Johnson not be poached? I think Vigen himself is probably going to get an offer he can't afford to refuse if the cats keep winning.
Re: This Year's Coaching Staff
Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2024 3:42 pm
by wbtfg
Coaching staff has been phenomenal this year.
Re: This Year's Coaching Staff
Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2024 5:05 pm
by tetoncat
Been good. Nice that they are not a discussion each week like last year.
Re: This Year's Coaching Staff
Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2024 7:41 pm
by nanacat
tetoncat wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2024 5:05 pm
Been good. Nice that they are not a discussion each week like last year.
For sure!!
Re: This Year's Coaching Staff
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 5:33 pm
by PortlandCat90
In total agreement. I used to get frustrated on defense when we would drop the NG 5 yards off into pass coverage. That's like sending me dressed in a tank top to Kamala's Victory Party. It neither looks good nor produces results.
On the O side, I've only been frustrated with two calls. One was a single 4th down call and the other was the start of the Davis game - on the first possession in their territory, I believe, Scottre did not touch the ball and we punted. I thought that was going to come back to haunt us. If we run successfully and score on that first possession it takes some steam out of Davis.
Realizing that fans (including me) tend to focus on "how we could have improved on a undefeated season" the simple fact is that we are highly fortunate to have this staff at the current time.
Re: This Year's Coaching Staff
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 5:58 pm
by WalkOn79
PortlandCat90 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 5:33 pm
"That's like sending me dressed in a tank top to Kamala's Victory Party. It neither looks good nor produces results."
Now that's some funny ****** right there!!
Re: This Year's Coaching Staff
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 7:45 pm
by catscat
tetoncat wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2024 5:05 pm
Been good. Nice that they are not a discussion each week like last year.
Maybe they should be --- for the great job they are doing!!
Re: This Year's Coaching Staff
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2024 9:54 am
by technoCat
PortlandCat90 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 5:33 pm
In total agreement. I used to get frustrated on defense when we would drop the NG 5 yards off into pass coverage. That's like sending me dressed in a tank top to Kamala's Victory Party. It neither looks good nor produces results.
On the O side, I've only been frustrated with two calls. One was a single 4th down call and the other was the start of the Davis game - on the first possession in their territory, I believe, Scottre did not touch the ball and we punted. I thought that was going to come back to haunt us. If we run successfully and score on that first possession it takes some steam out of Davis.
Realizing that fans (including me) tend to focus on "how we could have improved on a undefeated season" the simple fact is that we are highly fortunate to have this staff at the current time.
On the first play Tommy should have handed off to Scottre, huge hole inside. The problem is that they probably told him to keep it because our tendency all year was for him to hand off early. Then you're behind the sticks and out of downs quickly. I think this is another case where 20/20 makes it look so obvious but the OC/Tommy aren't going to pick correctly every time and you just need to bounce back. Which they did for most of the game.
Re: This Year's Coaching Staff
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2024 10:03 am
by KIX
seataccat wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2024 3:13 pm
Vigen has made some good hires. How could Al Johnson not be poached? I think Vigen himself is probably going to get an offer he can't afford to refuse if the cats keep winning.
What you just said and losses to the Portal. Two things that make you appreciate what we currently have going.
Re: This Year's Coaching Staff
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2024 10:12 am
by MSU01
seataccat wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2024 3:13 pm
Vigen has made some good hires. How could Al Johnson not be poached? I think Vigen himself is probably going to get an offer he can't afford to refuse if the cats keep winning.
The price of success! I don't see Vigen as the type to leave the great program he has inherited and built at MSU for the first FBS rebuilding project that comes along, but at the same time there have to be jobs at that level he would take given the opportunity. I'm more concerned about MSU losing one or both of its coordinators than I am about Vigen leaving this year.
Re: This Year's Coaching Staff
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2024 10:23 am
by cats2506
MSU01 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2024 10:12 am
seataccat wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2024 3:13 pm
Vigen has made some good hires. How could Al Johnson not be poached? I think Vigen himself is probably going to get an offer he can't afford to refuse if the cats keep winning.
The price of success! I don't see Vigen as the type to leave the great program he has inherited and built at MSU for the first FBS rebuilding project that comes along, but at the same time there have to be jobs at that level he would take given the opportunity. I'm more concerned about MSU losing one or both of its coordinators than I am about Vigen leaving this year.
I feel the same, if Vigen goes, its going to be to a program that has a lot of upside, otherwise I think he stays and waits for the right opportunity.
Re: This Year's Coaching Staff
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2024 10:35 am
by Retiredstets333
Udy Sucks!!!!
Re: This Year's Coaching Staff
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2024 10:44 am
by HogheadCats
Its easy to say they have done an amazing job, especially going undefeated with one game left to go in Conference play. Are there things that could be changed or done differently, absolutely. For now though, lets just keep doing what has worked and hope that Vigen shows up Saturday with a Coach Choate attitude.
Re: This Year's Coaching Staff
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2024 10:46 am
by BelligerentBobcat
Shouldn’t you be on the Nevada board?
Re: This Year's Coaching Staff
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2024 10:46 am
by luckyirishguy25
Did Udy poach your girl or something? This is all you post with nothing to back it up. I think Udy has done a terrific job this year, as has all the coaching staff.
Re: This Year's Coaching Staff
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2024 1:07 pm
by Long Time Cat
One thing that I've always thought was interesting is that Vigen kept Udy on staff but never made him OC. He's had two chances to do that but hasn't. Choate brought him in to be OC and then left so I think it was thoughtful for him to keep him on staff. I think that the promotions that Vigen has made show that he has developed good instincts as to who would do a good job and he deserves credit for that. Choate's offenses were always iffy and to me this shows Udy may not have been the best choice for OC. I don't know if we will ever know for sure.
Re: This Year's Coaching Staff
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2024 1:45 pm
by seataccat
cats2506 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2024 10:23 am
MSU01 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2024 10:12 am
seataccat wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2024 3:13 pm
Vigen has made some good hires. How could Al Johnson not be poached? I think Vigen himself is probably going to get an offer he can't afford to refuse if the cats keep winning.
The price of success! I don't see Vigen as the type to leave the great program he has inherited and built at MSU for the first FBS rebuilding project that comes along, but at the same time there have to be jobs at that level he would take given the opportunity. I'm more concerned about MSU losing one or both of its coordinators than I am about Vigen leaving this year.
I feel the same, if Vigen goes, its going to be to a program that has a lot of upside, otherwise I think he stays and waits for the right opportunity.
Upside just equals money. College football is a fickle business and you have to take the opportunities when they are presented not when you necessarily want to go. If a crappy g5 team offers to triple his salary he'd be foolish not to take it. I guess time will tell.
Re: This Year's Coaching Staff
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2024 2:08 pm
by coloradocat
seataccat wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2024 1:45 pm
cats2506 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2024 10:23 am
MSU01 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2024 10:12 am
seataccat wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2024 3:13 pm
Vigen has made some good hires. How could Al Johnson not be poached? I think Vigen himself is probably going to get an offer he can't afford to refuse if the cats keep winning.
The price of success! I don't see Vigen as the type to leave the great program he has inherited and built at MSU for the first FBS rebuilding project that comes along, but at the same time there have to be jobs at that level he would take given the opportunity. I'm more concerned about MSU losing one or both of its coordinators than I am about Vigen leaving this year.
I feel the same, if Vigen goes, its going to be to a program that has a lot of upside, otherwise I think he stays and waits for the right opportunity.
Upside just equals money. College football is a fickle business and you have to take the opportunities when they are presented not when you necessarily want to go. If a crappy g5 team offers to triple his salary he'd be foolish not to take it. I guess time will tell.
He claims that MSU was not his first HC opportunity so I assume he wouldn't have any trouble turning down a bad opportunity at the FBS level if presented with one, even if it came with a big salary bump.
Re: This Year's Coaching Staff
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2024 10:52 am
by MSU01
coloradocat wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2024 2:08 pm
He claims that MSU was not his first HC opportunity so I assume he wouldn't have any trouble turning down a bad opportunity at the FBS level if presented with one, even if it came with a big salary bump.
The list will grow of course as teams finish their seasons, but the jobs currently available at the FBS level are: Charlotte, East Carolina, Florida Atlantic, Fresno State, Kennesaw State, Rice, Southern Miss, Temple, UMass, Utah State. The only two realistic possibilities there would be Fresno State and Utah State who are both heading to the new Pac-whatever in 2026. The last Fresno and USU coaches were both making around $1.5 million/year in salary, which seems like it would be tough to turn down. Fresno seems like they'd aim higher than a FCS guy, and hopefully Utah State is scared away by their last hire from MSU bolting after being there for only one year!