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Post by catatac » Sun Oct 20, 2024 10:25 am

That was friggin ridiculous, on both sides. Just looking at the Cats though, that many flags on us is unacceptable. Seems like we're bad at that, more so on the road for some reason. Absolutely need to get that all cleaned up. On a related note, that targeting call sucked. Ty summed it up really well basically by saying it's BS that Dru gets ejected for that "targeting" call but the guy that smashes Taco after he called for a fair catch... gets to keep playing? Bunch of crap.


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Post by 94VegasCat » Sun Oct 20, 2024 10:35 am

23 total penalties in the Sac-Weber game


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Post by technoCat » Sun Oct 20, 2024 10:46 am

catatac wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2024 10:25 am
That was friggin ridiculous, on both sides. Just looking at the Cats though, that many flags on us is unacceptable. Seems like we're bad at that, more so on the road for some reason. Absolutely need to get that all cleaned up. On a related note, that targeting call sucked. Ty summed it up really well basically by saying it's BS that Dru gets ejected for that "targeting" call but the guy that smashes Taco after he called for a fair catch... gets to keep playing? Bunch of crap.
That should have at the very least been an unsportsmanlike conduct so if he did anything else the rest of the game he's gone. I really really hate when defenders get thrown out for targeting when the offensive player is dropping down. Once you start your approach as a defender you really can't change trajectory midway. I even felt like Dru turned his head specifically not to lead with his helmet. Rule definitely needs to be looked at again.


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Post by RickRund » Sun Oct 20, 2024 11:01 am

technoCat wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2024 10:46 am
catatac wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2024 10:25 am
That was friggin ridiculous, on both sides. Just looking at the Cats though, that many flags on us is unacceptable. Seems like we're bad at that, more so on the road for some reason. Absolutely need to get that all cleaned up. On a related note, that targeting call sucked. Ty summed it up really well basically by saying it's BS that Dru gets ejected for that "targeting" call but the guy that smashes Taco after he called for a fair catch... gets to keep playing? Bunch of crap.
That should have at the very least been an unsportsmanlike conduct so if he did anything else the rest of the game he's gone. I really really hate when defenders get thrown out for targeting when the offensive player is dropping down. Once you start your approach as a defender you really can't change trajectory midway. I even felt like Dru turned his head specifically not to lead with his helmet. Rule definitely needs to be looked at again.
And Dru has served his penalty in the second half, correct.


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Post by SparkCat » Sun Oct 20, 2024 11:15 am

I would say that they do need to clean up their game, however, there have been some very flag happy reffing crews.

Flags are going to be more apparent when playing teams with inferior talent, seemed like a lot of our flags came from our guys playing more quickly and more physically than Portland. It’s like when you rough house in your childhood and you’d have that one friend that would no matter what always get hurt or tell on you.

The reffing this year is next level poor, they are unsure and uncertain on calls they make, looking at Danny U’s inadvertent whistle, he should have been continuing to blow that thing to get the play to stop after his oops.



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Post by Bobcat4Ever » Sun Oct 20, 2024 11:32 am

I don’t understand that hit on Taco — how could that not be something? After his TD and big run back it was obviously they were “targeting” him.

I saw a lot of ankle/knee twisting going on — guess who taught them that?

I know it was the last minute of the game but there was a huge hold/tackle/pindown that enabled the left side opening. Last minute or not, call the big stuff.



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Post by Bobcat Sig » Sun Oct 20, 2024 11:34 am

The targeting penalty on Dru… wasn’t. He barely connected with the PSU player. It happened right in front of us and it certainly didn’t look like targeting. Such calls are incredibly frustrating, and must be hell for players and coaches


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Post by Bobcat4Ever » Sun Oct 20, 2024 11:38 am

Bobcat Sig wrote:
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The targeting penalty on Dru… wasn’t. He barely connected with the PSU player. It happened right in front of us and it certainly didn’t look like targeting. Such calls are incredibly frustrating, and must be hell for players and coaches
It barely knocked the PSU player off-stride. Looked like some shoulder contact — Dru turned his head, and did not make any significant contact above the shoulders. If it was targeting — then it was the worst execution I have ever seen. At least knock the guy down. :lol:



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Re: PENALTIES

Post by catatac » Sun Oct 20, 2024 1:51 pm

Bobcat4Ever wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2024 11:32 am
I don’t understand that hit on Taco — how could that not be something? After his TD and big run back it was obviously they were “targeting” him.

I saw a lot of ankle/knee twisting going on — guess who taught them that?

I know it was the last minute of the game but there was a huge hold/tackle/pindown that enabled the left side opening. Last minute or not, call the big stuff.
Not sure of the question? It was a personal foul.


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Post by Cats92 » Sun Oct 20, 2024 2:56 pm

catatac wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2024 1:51 pm
Bobcat4Ever wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2024 11:32 am
I don’t understand that hit on Taco — how could that not be something? After his TD and big run back it was obviously they were “targeting” him.

I saw a lot of ankle/knee twisting going on — guess who taught them that?

I know it was the last minute of the game but there was a huge hold/tackle/pindown that enabled the left side opening. Last minute or not, call the big stuff.
Not sure of the question? It was a personal foul.
One of them was blatantly intentional and the other was a hit a little too subjectively high. I don’t disagree with the call on Dru being targeting, but if he is going to be ejected, why wasn’t the guy who hit Taco ejected? If the rule is player safety, then that also needs to be addressed.



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Re: PENALTIES

Post by 4KornerKat » Sun Oct 20, 2024 3:08 pm

Cats92 wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2024 2:56 pm
catatac wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2024 1:51 pm
Bobcat4Ever wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2024 11:32 am
I don’t understand that hit on Taco — how could that not be something? After his TD and big run back it was obviously they were “targeting” him.

I saw a lot of ankle/knee twisting going on — guess who taught them that?

I know it was the last minute of the game but there was a huge hold/tackle/pindown that enabled the left side opening. Last minute or not, call the big stuff.
Not sure of the question? It was a personal foul.
One of them was blatantly intentional and the other was a hit a little too subjectively high. I don’t disagree with the call on Dru being targeting, but if he is going to be ejected, why wasn’t the guy who hit Taco ejected? If the rule is player safety, then that also needs to be addressed.
The guy who hit Taco didn't hit him in the head. Commented to the PSU fans behind me that it was the best tackle they had made all day.

Ejection for targeting is specifically to get helmet to helmet contact out of the game. No question that they have gone too far with this, but as long as former players are going to be able to sue the NFL/NCAA for long term effects of head injuries, they will make some sort of effort to show they are making an attempt to limit/ reduce them.



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Re: PENALTIES

Post by technoCat » Sun Oct 20, 2024 4:15 pm

RickRund wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2024 11:01 am
technoCat wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2024 10:46 am
catatac wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2024 10:25 am
That was friggin ridiculous, on both sides. Just looking at the Cats though, that many flags on us is unacceptable. Seems like we're bad at that, more so on the road for some reason. Absolutely need to get that all cleaned up. On a related note, that targeting call sucked. Ty summed it up really well basically by saying it's BS that Dru gets ejected for that "targeting" call but the guy that smashes Taco after he called for a fair catch... gets to keep playing? Bunch of crap.
That should have at the very least been an unsportsmanlike conduct so if he did anything else the rest of the game he's gone. I really really hate when defenders get thrown out for targeting when the offensive player is dropping down. Once you start your approach as a defender you really can't change trajectory midway. I even felt like Dru turned his head specifically not to lead with his helmet. Rule definitely needs to be looked at again.
And Dru has served his penalty in the second half, correct.
If you are asking a question, yes, Dru is gtg next week.


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Re: PENALTIES

Post by RickRund » Sun Oct 20, 2024 5:47 pm

technoCat wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2024 4:15 pm
RickRund wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2024 11:01 am
technoCat wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2024 10:46 am
catatac wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2024 10:25 am
That was friggin ridiculous, on both sides. Just looking at the Cats though, that many flags on us is unacceptable. Seems like we're bad at that, more so on the road for some reason. Absolutely need to get that all cleaned up. On a related note, that targeting call sucked. Ty summed it up really well basically by saying it's BS that Dru gets ejected for that "targeting" call but the guy that smashes Taco after he called for a fair catch... gets to keep playing? Bunch of crap.
That should have at the very least been an unsportsmanlike conduct so if he did anything else the rest of the game he's gone. I really really hate when defenders get thrown out for targeting when the offensive player is dropping down. Once you start your approach as a defender you really can't change trajectory midway. I even felt like Dru turned his head specifically not to lead with his helmet. Rule definitely needs to be looked at again.
And Dru has served his penalty in the second half, correct.
If you are asking a question, yes, Dru is gtg next week.
Yep, a question. Thanks


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Post by St George » Sun Oct 20, 2024 8:20 pm

4KornerKat wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2024 3:08 pm
Cats92 wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2024 2:56 pm
catatac wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2024 1:51 pm
Bobcat4Ever wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2024 11:32 am
I don’t understand that hit on Taco — how could that not be something? After his TD and big run back it was obviously they were “targeting” him.

I saw a lot of ankle/knee twisting going on — guess who taught them that?

I know it was the last minute of the game but there was a huge hold/tackle/pindown that enabled the left side opening. Last minute or not, call the big stuff.
Not sure of the question? It was a personal foul.
One of them was blatantly intentional and the other was a hit a little too subjectively high. I don’t disagree with the call on Dru being targeting, but if he is going to be ejected, why wasn’t the guy who hit Taco ejected? If the rule is player safety, then that also needs to be addressed.
The guy who hit Taco didn't hit him in the head. Commented to the PSU fans behind me that it was the best tackle they had made all day.

Ejection for targeting is specifically to get helmet to helmet contact out of the game. No question that they have gone too far with this, but as long as former players are going to be able to sue the NFL/NCAA for long term effects of head injuries, they will make some sort of effort to show they are making an attempt to limit/ reduce them.
4KornerKat wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2024 3:08 pm
Cats92 wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2024 2:56 pm
catatac wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2024 1:51 pm
Bobcat4Ever wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2024 11:32 am
I don’t understand that hit on Taco — how could that not be something? After his TD and big run back it was obviously they were “targeting” him.

I saw a lot of ankle/knee twisting going on — guess who taught them that?

I know it was the last minute of the game but there was a huge hold/tackle/pindown that enabled the left side opening. Last minute or not, call the big stuff.
Not sure of the question? It was a personal foul.
One of them was blatantly intentional and the other was a hit a little too subjectively high. I don’t disagree with the call on Dru being targeting, but if he is going to be ejected, why wasn’t the guy who hit Taco ejected? If the rule is player safety, then that also needs to be addressed.
The guy who hit Taco didn't hit him in the head. Commented to the PSU fans behind me that it was the best tackle they had made all day.

Ejection for targeting is specifically to get helmet to helmet contact out of the game. No question that they have gone too far with this, but as long as former players are going to be able to sue the NFL/NCAA for long term effects of head injuries, they will make some sort of effort to show they are making an attempt to limit/ reduce them.
So Helmet to Helmet is an ejection, but slamming a player and his head to the ground is not. The rules need to change. I am guessing a players head will absorb a bit more impact than the ground will.



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Re: PENALTIES

Post by catatac » Sun Oct 20, 2024 8:28 pm

St George wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2024 8:20 pm
4KornerKat wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2024 3:08 pm
Cats92 wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2024 2:56 pm
catatac wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2024 1:51 pm
Bobcat4Ever wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2024 11:32 am
I don’t understand that hit on Taco — how could that not be something? After his TD and big run back it was obviously they were “targeting” him.

I saw a lot of ankle/knee twisting going on — guess who taught them that?

I know it was the last minute of the game but there was a huge hold/tackle/pindown that enabled the left side opening. Last minute or not, call the big stuff.
Not sure of the question? It was a personal foul.
One of them was blatantly intentional and the other was a hit a little too subjectively high. I don’t disagree with the call on Dru being targeting, but if he is going to be ejected, why wasn’t the guy who hit Taco ejected? If the rule is player safety, then that also needs to be addressed.
The guy who hit Taco didn't hit him in the head. Commented to the PSU fans behind me that it was the best tackle they had made all day.

Ejection for targeting is specifically to get helmet to helmet contact out of the game. No question that they have gone too far with this, but as long as former players are going to be able to sue the NFL/NCAA for long term effects of head injuries, they will make some sort of effort to show they are making an attempt to limit/ reduce them.
4KornerKat wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2024 3:08 pm
Cats92 wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2024 2:56 pm
catatac wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2024 1:51 pm
Bobcat4Ever wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2024 11:32 am
I don’t understand that hit on Taco — how could that not be something? After his TD and big run back it was obviously they were “targeting” him.

I saw a lot of ankle/knee twisting going on — guess who taught them that?

I know it was the last minute of the game but there was a huge hold/tackle/pindown that enabled the left side opening. Last minute or not, call the big stuff.
Not sure of the question? It was a personal foul.
One of them was blatantly intentional and the other was a hit a little too subjectively high. I don’t disagree with the call on Dru being targeting, but if he is going to be ejected, why wasn’t the guy who hit Taco ejected? If the rule is player safety, then that also needs to be addressed.
The guy who hit Taco didn't hit him in the head. Commented to the PSU fans behind me that it was the best tackle they had made all day.

Ejection for targeting is specifically to get helmet to helmet contact out of the game. No question that they have gone too far with this, but as long as former players are going to be able to sue the NFL/NCAA for long term effects of head injuries, they will make some sort of effort to show they are making an attempt to limit/ reduce them.
So Helmet to Helmet is an ejection, but slamming a player and his head to the ground is not. The rules need to change. I am guessing a players head will absorb a bit more impact than the ground will.
Yes, correct. That was the reason for my comment about this in my post. Totally agree.


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Post by GoCats18 » Sun Oct 20, 2024 8:59 pm

Cats made a lot of bonehead penalties. What’s crazy to me though is as little of the Griz I can stand to watch, I see at least two or three helmet to helmet hits that don’t get called or even reviewed. Cats seem to get called for it all the time. But, if this team wants to have home field advantage through the playoffs, they need to clean up the stupid penalties that could easily be avoided.


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Post by wapiti » Sun Oct 20, 2024 9:27 pm

technoCat wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2024 4:15 pm
RickRund wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2024 11:01 am
technoCat wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2024 10:46 am
catatac wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2024 10:25 am
That was friggin ridiculous, on both sides. Just looking at the Cats though, that many flags on us is unacceptable. Seems like we're bad at that, more so on the road for some reason. Absolutely need to get that all cleaned up. On a related note, that targeting call sucked. Ty summed it up really well basically by saying it's BS that Dru gets ejected for that "targeting" call but the guy that smashes Taco after he called for a fair catch... gets to keep playing? Bunch of crap.
That should have at the very least been an unsportsmanlike conduct so if he did anything else the rest of the game he's gone. I really really hate when defenders get thrown out for targeting when the offensive player is dropping down. Once you start your approach as a defender you really can't change trajectory midway. I even felt like Dru turned his head specifically not to lead with his helmet. Rule definitely needs to be looked at again.
And Dru has served his penalty in the second half, correct.
If you are asking a question, yes, Dru is gtg next week.
Dru will not be playing this next weekend.



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Post by tetoncat » Sun Oct 20, 2024 9:40 pm

wapiti wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2024 9:27 pm
technoCat wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2024 4:15 pm
RickRund wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2024 11:01 am
technoCat wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2024 10:46 am
catatac wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2024 10:25 am
That was friggin ridiculous, on both sides. Just looking at the Cats though, that many flags on us is unacceptable. Seems like we're bad at that, more so on the road for some reason. Absolutely need to get that all cleaned up. On a related note, that targeting call sucked. Ty summed it up really well basically by saying it's BS that Dru gets ejected for that "targeting" call but the guy that smashes Taco after he called for a fair catch... gets to keep playing? Bunch of crap.
That should have at the very least been an unsportsmanlike conduct so if he did anything else the rest of the game he's gone. I really really hate when defenders get thrown out for targeting when the offensive player is dropping down. Once you start your approach as a defender you really can't change trajectory midway. I even felt like Dru turned his head specifically not to lead with his helmet. Rule definitely needs to be looked at again.
And Dru has served his penalty in the second half, correct.
If you are asking a question, yes, Dru is gtg next week.
Dru will not be playing this next weekend.
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Post by MSU Toddler » Sun Oct 20, 2024 9:41 pm

10 penalties for 114 yards resulting in two TDs recalled and one player ejection


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Post by grizzh8r » Sun Oct 20, 2024 10:23 pm

MSU Toddler wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2024 9:41 pm
10 penalties for 114 yards resulting in two TDs recalled and one player ejection
... and that doesn't hold a candle to the Weber Sac St. game. I believe the total was 23 penalties, split 11-12...


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