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SPEEDY DBs - incoming class
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 10:04 am
by RockyBearCat
100 meter time
Jhase McMillan 10.45
Kory Boyd 10.48
Brenden Ross 10.55
I thought it would be nice to have one place that our internet sleuths could post the great track results we are seeing
Re: SPEEDY DBs - incoming class
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 12:52 pm
by 110010110
Do any of them return kicks?
Re: SPEEDY DBs - incoming class
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 1:08 pm
by MSU01
110010110 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2024 12:52 pm
Do any of them return kicks?
It wouldn't matter much if they did, these days the kickoff returner just stands at the goal line and watches the ball sail over his head 95% of the time.
Re: SPEEDY DBs - incoming class
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 4:44 pm
by GrizgradCatFan
Are any of them over 5'9"
Re: SPEEDY DBs - incoming class
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 4:47 pm
by MSU01
Boyd is listed as 6'0", Ross and McMillan as 5'11".
Re: SPEEDY DBs - incoming class
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 5:12 pm
by PapaG
MSU01 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2024 4:47 pm
Boyd is listed as 6'0", Ross and McMillan as 5'11".
So … maybe
Re: SPEEDY DBs - incoming class
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 6:29 pm
by TomCat88
MSU01 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2024 4:47 pm
Boyd is listed as 6'0", Ross and McMillan as 5'11".
No DBs on the roster are listed under 5’10”.
Re: SPEEDY DBs - incoming class
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 9:36 pm
by AFCAT
Re: SPEEDY DBs - incoming class
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 10:42 pm
by TomCat88
AFCAT wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2024 9:36 pm
Keeps getting crazier.
Re: SPEEDY DBs - incoming class
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 11:34 pm
by Montanabob
how cool would it be to have the football team run indoor track season and sponsor the 100m, 200m, and all the 4xEvents. set team and BSC records and propel us above the top 25
think of the recruits for football/track that would want to be here.
Re: SPEEDY DBs - incoming class
Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:31 am
by PapaG
Montanabob wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2024 11:34 pm
how cool would it be to have the football team run indoor track season and sponsor the 100m, 200m, and all the 4xEvents. set team and BSC records and propel us above the top 25
think of the recruits for football/track that would want to be here.
Could be the FCS version of Oregon. All that is missing is a mega-donor.
Re: SPEEDY DBs - incoming class
Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2024 10:34 am
by kennethnoisewater
Here's how crazy Texas is: McMillan is faster than the fastest Montanan ever, yet he's ranked 26th in Texas THIS YEAR. McMillan's time would be 7th best in Florida this year and 5th best in California. Ryan Dierenfield from Skyview ran a 10.75 in his first meet of the season (and an 11.12 the second meet) for the fastest time in MT this season, but that would put him in a tie for 138th in Texas this year.
Re: SPEEDY DBs - incoming class
Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2024 12:39 pm
by TomCat88
kennethnoisewater wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2024 10:34 am
Here's how crazy Texas is: McMillan is faster than the fastest Montanan ever, yet he's ranked 26th in Texas THIS YEAR. McMillan's time would be 7th best in Florida this year and 5th best in California. Ryan Dierenfield from Skyview ran a 10.75 in his first meet of the season (and an 11.12 the second meet) for the fastest time in MT this season, but that would put him in a tie for 138th in Texas this year.
Montana rarely gets optimal weather for sprinters. Not that I’m saying Montana sprinters are in the same league of the most populated states. But there would be better prep times here if we had warmer temperatures.
Re: SPEEDY DBs - incoming class
Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2024 12:44 pm
by TomCat88
Montanabob wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2024 11:34 pm
how cool would it be to have the football team run indoor track season and sponsor the 100m, 200m, and all the 4xEvents. set team and BSC records and propel us above the top 25
think of the recruits for football/track that would want to be here.
The MSU men’s 4x100 team ran a 40.6 today. Second best in school history.
Re: SPEEDY DBs - incoming class
Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2024 2:52 pm
by kennethnoisewater
TomCat88 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2024 12:39 pm
kennethnoisewater wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2024 10:34 am
Here's how crazy Texas is: McMillan is faster than the fastest Montanan ever, yet he's ranked 26th in Texas THIS YEAR. McMillan's time would be 7th best in Florida this year and 5th best in California. Ryan Dierenfield from Skyview ran a 10.75 in his first meet of the season (and an 11.12 the second meet) for the fastest time in MT this season, but that would put him in a tie for 138th in Texas this year.
Montana rarely gets optimal weather for sprinters. Not that I’m saying Montana sprinters are in the same league of the most populated states. But there would be better prep times here if we had warmer temperatures.
OK sure, that's part of it. Times in MN and WI are also not good. My point was more about how crazy Texas is compared even to other (warm) states like Florida and California. 129 under 11 seconds in Florida this year so far, 191 in CA, 411 in TX.
Re: SPEEDY DBs - incoming class
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 9:49 pm
by onceacat
kennethnoisewater wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2024 2:52 pm
TomCat88 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2024 12:39 pm
kennethnoisewater wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2024 10:34 am
Here's how crazy Texas is: McMillan is faster than the fastest Montanan ever, yet he's ranked 26th in Texas THIS YEAR. McMillan's time would be 7th best in Florida this year and 5th best in California. Ryan Dierenfield from Skyview ran a 10.75 in his first meet of the season (and an 11.12 the second meet) for the fastest time in MT this season, but that would put him in a tie for 138th in Texas this year.
Montana rarely gets optimal weather for sprinters. Not that I’m saying Montana sprinters are in the same league of the most populated states. But there would be better prep times here if we had warmer temperatures.
OK sure, that's part of it. Times in MN and WI are also not good. My point was more about how crazy Texas is compared even to other (warm) states like Florida and California. 129 under 11 seconds in Florida this year so far, 191 in CA, 411 in TX.
If weather is the issue, indoor times should be similar. I'm pretty sure that isnt the case. I think a lot of it is culture. Bozeman (at the high school level) and MSU (at the collegiate level) are able to produce stars like Duncan Hamilton (fastest American ever in NCAA steeplechase) and Nathan Neil (Top 10 all time high schooler in human history in the 3000.) But Bozeman has never produced sprinters.
Texans also hold the all time records in boys 100, 200, 400, boys and girls 4x100, 4x200...but no records in distance or jumping.
Its not really the weather...its the culture & coaching.
Re: SPEEDY DBs - incoming class
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 11:44 pm
by TomCat88
onceacat wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2024 9:49 pm
kennethnoisewater wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2024 2:52 pm
TomCat88 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2024 12:39 pm
kennethnoisewater wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2024 10:34 am
Here's how crazy Texas is: McMillan is faster than the fastest Montanan ever, yet he's ranked 26th in Texas THIS YEAR. McMillan's time would be 7th best in Florida this year and 5th best in California. Ryan Dierenfield from Skyview ran a 10.75 in his first meet of the season (and an 11.12 the second meet) for the fastest time in MT this season, but that would put him in a tie for 138th in Texas this year.
Montana rarely gets optimal weather for sprinters. Not that I’m saying Montana sprinters are in the same league of the most populated states. But there would be better prep times here if we had warmer temperatures.
OK sure, that's part of it. Times in MN and WI are also not good. My point was more about how crazy Texas is compared even to other (warm) states like Florida and California. 129 under 11 seconds in Florida this year so far, 191 in CA, 411 in TX.
If weather is the issue, indoor times should be similar. I'm pretty sure that isnt the case. I think a lot of it is culture. Bozeman (at the high school level) and MSU (at the collegiate level) are able to produce stars like Duncan Hamilton (fastest American ever in NCAA steeplechase) and Nathan Neil (Top 10 all time high schooler in human history in the 3000.) But Bozeman has never produced sprinters.
Texans also hold the all time records in boys 100, 200, 400, boys and girls 4x100, 4x200...but no records in distance or jumping.
Its not really the weather...its the culture & coaching.
Cold weather slows sprinters, across the board, down. That’s all I’m saying. Montana’s top times would probably be lower if we had warmer temperatures during track season.
Indoor sprints are for shorter distances. The indoor 200 typically has a full curve that isn’t as wide (sharper turn) and that is mainly why it isn’t as fast as outdoor 200 times. Same for 400.
Re: SPEEDY DBs - incoming class
Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 8:05 am
by 77matman
Will the high schools be able to use the Indoor Practice Facility?? If so we’ll have a data point to help discuss this topic.
Re: SPEEDY DBs - incoming class
Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 9:43 am
by BelligerentBobcat
TomCat88 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2024 11:44 pm
onceacat wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2024 9:49 pm
kennethnoisewater wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2024 2:52 pm
TomCat88 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2024 12:39 pm
kennethnoisewater wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2024 10:34 am
Here's how crazy Texas is: McMillan is faster than the fastest Montanan ever, yet he's ranked 26th in Texas THIS YEAR. McMillan's time would be 7th best in Florida this year and 5th best in California. Ryan Dierenfield from Skyview ran a 10.75 in his first meet of the season (and an 11.12 the second meet) for the fastest time in MT this season, but that would put him in a tie for 138th in Texas this year.
Montana rarely gets optimal weather for sprinters. Not that I’m saying Montana sprinters are in the same league of the most populated states. But there would be better prep times here if we had warmer temperatures.
OK sure, that's part of it. Times in MN and WI are also not good. My point was more about how crazy Texas is compared even to other (warm) states like Florida and California. 129 under 11 seconds in Florida this year so far, 191 in CA, 411 in TX.
If weather is the issue, indoor times should be similar. I'm pretty sure that isnt the case. I think a lot of it is culture. Bozeman (at the high school level) and MSU (at the collegiate level) are able to produce stars like Duncan Hamilton (fastest American ever in NCAA steeplechase) and Nathan Neil (Top 10 all time high schooler in human history in the 3000.) But Bozeman has never produced sprinters.
Texans also hold the all time records in boys 100, 200, 400, boys and girls 4x100, 4x200...but no records in distance or jumping.
Its not really the weather...its the culture & coaching.
Cold weather slows sprinters, across the board, down. That’s all I’m saying. Montana’s top times would probably be lower if we had warmer temperatures during track season.
Indoor sprints are for shorter distances. The indoor 200 typically has a full curve that isn’t as wide (sharper turn) and that is mainly why it isn’t as fast as outdoor 200 times. Same for 400.
It’s not colder weather and it’s not culture and coaching.
Re: SPEEDY DBs - incoming class
Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 9:53 am
by rivercat
BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2024 9:43 am
TomCat88 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2024 11:44 pm
onceacat wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2024 9:49 pm
kennethnoisewater wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2024 2:52 pm
TomCat88 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2024 12:39 pm
kennethnoisewater wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2024 10:34 am
Here's how crazy Texas is: McMillan is faster than the fastest Montanan ever, yet he's ranked 26th in Texas THIS YEAR. McMillan's time would be 7th best in Florida this year and 5th best in California. Ryan Dierenfield from Skyview ran a 10.75 in his first meet of the season (and an 11.12 the second meet) for the fastest time in MT this season, but that would put him in a tie for 138th in Texas this year.
Montana rarely gets optimal weather for sprinters. Not that I’m saying Montana sprinters are in the same league of the most populated states. But there would be better prep times here if we had warmer temperatures.
OK sure, that's part of it. Times in MN and WI are also not good. My point was more about how crazy Texas is compared even to other (warm) states like Florida and California. 129 under 11 seconds in Florida this year so far, 191 in CA, 411 in TX.
If weather is the issue, indoor times should be similar. I'm pretty sure that isnt the case. I think a lot of it is culture. Bozeman (at the high school level) and MSU (at the collegiate level) are able to produce stars like Duncan Hamilton (fastest American ever in NCAA steeplechase) and Nathan Neil (Top 10 all time high schooler in human history in the 3000.) But Bozeman has never produced sprinters.
Texans also hold the all time records in boys 100, 200, 400, boys and girls 4x100, 4x200...but no records in distance or jumping.
Its not really the weather...its the culture & coaching.
Cold weather slows sprinters, across the board, down. That’s all I’m saying. Montana’s top times would probably be lower if we had warmer temperatures during track season.
Indoor sprints are for shorter distances. The indoor 200 typically has a full curve that isn’t as wide (sharper turn) and that is mainly why it isn’t as fast as outdoor 200 times. Same for 400.
It’s not colder weather and it’s not culture and coaching.
In today's world, it's not correct to say such things. But there's a reason Samoans aren't DBs, why Asians aren't O linemen, why Iowa farm boys aren't receivers. Biologic expression of genetics is a real thing. It's not a bad thing, it's just reality.