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Bobcat Hockey wins second straight title

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 3:40 pm
by Camo_Cat
I know this needs to go on another board, but it doesn't get the love it deserves there so I am posting an update here. The MSU Bobcat men's hockey team won their second straight MWCHL title last night with a 4-0 win over Weber State. A pretty significant win considering our boys had lost to WSU three times this season. The night before, they pounded Boise State 5-1 in the semifinal game. The Cats now travel to Boston next month to play for a national ACHA title.

Even though they're a club team, it's an example of another Bobcat athletic program that is seeing tremendous success among all the others. It's a great day to be a Bobcat!!

https://msuhockey.com/

Re: Bobcat Hockey wins second straight title

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 4:43 pm
by AFCAT
That's great news. They need to get this stuff out on their social media platforms. They haven't updated their Twitter page in years.

Re: Bobcat Hockey wins second straight title

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2023 2:34 pm
by AFCAT
A fundraiser to the Natty. Give if you can.

https://twitter.com/RRCatCast/status/16 ... 2609883136

Re: Bobcat Hockey wins second straight title

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2023 3:57 pm
by Montanabob
AFCAT wrote:
Thu Feb 23, 2023 2:34 pm
A fundraiser to the Natty. Give if you can.

https://twitter.com/RRCatCast/status/16 ... 2609883136
And for the record, they embarrassed the griz team.

Re: Bobcat Hockey wins second straight title

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2023 7:34 pm
by wbtfg
They are seeking donations/funding to go to nationals. They still have a long way to go.

"The team is currently in the midst of the most successful season in program history. After winning back-to-back MWCHL Championships, the team finished the regular season ranked #2 in the West Region and #3 IN THE NATION! As a result, the Bobcats received a bye past the Regional Championships (the first time our program has received this huge honor) and officially secured a spot in the upcoming 2023 National Championships as one of the top 16 teams from across the country. The ACHA National Championships are being held March 17-21 in Boston, MA."

https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-msu-bob ... e=customer

Re: Bobcat Hockey wins second straight title

Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:39 pm
by gtapp
Have or would the Cat Hockey team ever play a college team (UND, UM)?

Re: Bobcat Hockey wins second straight title

Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:43 pm
by CatBot
gtapp wrote:
Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:39 pm
Have or would the Cat Hockey team ever play a college team (UND, UM)?
Good question and I have lots more in the same line. I don't actually understand what's happening other than I'm really excited about all the wins. Perhaps someone can explain or post a link that describes the level of play and how it relates to other college hockey. Any help would be appreciated.

Re: Bobcat Hockey wins second straight title

Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:07 pm
by wbtfg
CatBot wrote:
Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:43 pm
gtapp wrote:
Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:39 pm
Have or would the Cat Hockey team ever play a college team (UND, UM)?
Good question and I have lots more in the same line. I don't actually understand what's happening other than I'm really excited about all the wins. Perhaps someone can explain or post a link that describes the level of play and how it relates to other college hockey. Any help would be appreciated.
It's a club team. Totally self funded. They wouldn't play any NCAA varsity teams.

Re: Bobcat Hockey wins second straight title

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 10:29 am
by js1010
CatBot wrote:
Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:43 pm
gtapp wrote:
Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:39 pm
Have or would the Cat Hockey team ever play a college team (UND, UM)?
Good question and I have lots more in the same line. I don't actually understand what's happening other than I'm really excited about all the wins. Perhaps someone can explain or post a link that describes the level of play and how it relates to other college hockey. Any help would be appreciated.
As others have said it's a club team so its not part of the athletic department. To be more specific, they do not play in the NCAA but rather the ACHA (American Collegiate Hockey Association). There are agreements between the ACHA and NCAA, mostly around use of NCAA rule book and player transfers and eligibility (a player can't play 4 years for an NCAA team then another 4 at an ACHA team, or vice versa, for example). However ACHA teams are not officially sanctioned by the NCAA which means they dont get financial support or count towards Title IX requirements.

To try and compare the difference between ACHA and NCAA there are a couple of players on the Cats hockey team that transferred from an NCAA DIII school. Also, keep in mind there are multiple divisions within the ACHA and MSU is an ACHA DII team.

To answer your original question on level of play and if they would ever play against North Dakota, short answer is, no, probably not. I think the football analogy would be a frontier conference team playing a PAC12 team. So imagine Montana Western playing University of Utah.

Re: Bobcat Hockey wins second straight title

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 12:55 pm
by CelticCat
Well that's an easy add when we eventually go FBS and need to add a sport. :)

Re: Bobcat Hockey wins second straight title

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 1:42 pm
by CodyCat
js1010 wrote:
Mon Feb 27, 2023 10:29 am
CatBot wrote:
Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:43 pm
gtapp wrote:
Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:39 pm
Have or would the Cat Hockey team ever play a college team (UND, UM)?
Good question and I have lots more in the same line. I don't actually understand what's happening other than I'm really excited about all the wins. Perhaps someone can explain or post a link that describes the level of play and how it relates to other college hockey. Any help would be appreciated.
As others have said it's a club team so its not part of the athletic department. To be more specific, they do not play in the NCAA but rather the ACHA (American Collegiate Hockey Association). There are agreements between the ACHA and NCAA, mostly around use of NCAA rule book and player transfers and eligibility (a player can't play 4 years for an NCAA team then another 4 at an ACHA team, or vice versa, for example). However ACHA teams are not officially sanctioned by the NCAA which means they dont get financial support or count towards Title IX requirements.

To try and compare the difference between ACHA and NCAA there are a couple of players on the Cats hockey team that transferred from an NCAA DIII school. Also, keep in mind there are multiple divisions within the ACHA and MSU is an ACHA DII team.

To answer your original question on level of play and if they would ever play against North Dakota, short answer is, no, probably not. I think the football analogy would be a frontier conference team playing a PAC12 team. So imagine Montana Western playing University of Utah.
The Cats also have an ACHA DIII Team, correct?

Re: Bobcat Hockey wins second straight title

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 2:26 pm
by ND0479
CodyCat wrote:
Mon Feb 27, 2023 1:42 pm
js1010 wrote:
Mon Feb 27, 2023 10:29 am
CatBot wrote:
Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:43 pm
gtapp wrote:
Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:39 pm
Have or would the Cat Hockey team ever play a college team (UND, UM)?
Good question and I have lots more in the same line. I don't actually understand what's happening other than I'm really excited about all the wins. Perhaps someone can explain or post a link that describes the level of play and how it relates to other college hockey. Any help would be appreciated.
As others have said it's a club team so its not part of the athletic department. To be more specific, they do not play in the NCAA but rather the ACHA (American Collegiate Hockey Association). There are agreements between the ACHA and NCAA, mostly around use of NCAA rule book and player transfers and eligibility (a player can't play 4 years for an NCAA team then another 4 at an ACHA team, or vice versa, for example). However ACHA teams are not officially sanctioned by the NCAA which means they dont get financial support or count towards Title IX requirements.

To try and compare the difference between ACHA and NCAA there are a couple of players on the Cats hockey team that transferred from an NCAA DIII school. Also, keep in mind there are multiple divisions within the ACHA and MSU is an ACHA DII team.

To answer your original question on level of play and if they would ever play against North Dakota, short answer is, no, probably not. I think the football analogy would be a frontier conference team playing a PAC12 team. So imagine Montana Western playing University of Utah.
The Cats also have an ACHA DIII Team, correct?
Correct - a D2 and D3 team. Arizona State has a NCAA team, as well as ACHA team(s) and I'm sure there are many other schools like that.

I saw the Big Sky Conference send out a tweet asking if they should add hockey.

Re: Bobcat Hockey wins second straight title

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 3:51 pm
by kennethnoisewater
CelticCat wrote:
Mon Feb 27, 2023 12:55 pm
Well that's an easy add when we eventually go FBS and need to add a sport. :)
I'd love it. Probably need a huge influx of capital to build a facility, although I've always said the Fieldhouse would be a better arena for hockey than it is for basketball.

Re: Bobcat Hockey wins second straight title

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 4:23 pm
by Montanabob
ND0479 wrote:
Mon Feb 27, 2023 2:26 pm
CodyCat wrote:
Mon Feb 27, 2023 1:42 pm
js1010 wrote:
Mon Feb 27, 2023 10:29 am
CatBot wrote:
Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:43 pm
gtapp wrote:
Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:39 pm
Have or would the Cat Hockey team ever play a college team (UND, UM)?
Good question and I have lots more in the same line. I don't actually understand what's happening other than I'm really excited about all the wins. Perhaps someone can explain or post a link that describes the level of play and how it relates to other college hockey. Any help would be appreciated.
As others have said it's a club team so its not part of the athletic department. To be more specific, they do not play in the NCAA but rather the ACHA (American Collegiate Hockey Association). There are agreements between the ACHA and NCAA, mostly around use of NCAA rule book and player transfers and eligibility (a player can't play 4 years for an NCAA team then another 4 at an ACHA team, or vice versa, for example). However ACHA teams are not officially sanctioned by the NCAA which means they dont get financial support or count towards Title IX requirements.

To try and compare the difference between ACHA and NCAA there are a couple of players on the Cats hockey team that transferred from an NCAA DIII school. Also, keep in mind there are multiple divisions within the ACHA and MSU is an ACHA DII team.

To answer your original question on level of play and if they would ever play against North Dakota, short answer is, no, probably not. I think the football analogy would be a frontier conference team playing a PAC12 team. So imagine Montana Western playing University of Utah.
The Cats also have an ACHA DIII Team, correct?
Correct - a D2 and D3 team. Arizona State has a NCAA team, as well as ACHA team(s) and I'm sure there are many other schools like that.

I saw the Big Sky Conference send out a tweet asking if they should add hockey.
If you had men's hockey, where are the increase in women's sports going to be? I don't know what the club teams prospects are for a women's team.

Re: Bobcat Hockey wins second straight title

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 4:47 pm
by AFCAT
Montanabob wrote:
Mon Feb 27, 2023 4:23 pm
ND0479 wrote:
Mon Feb 27, 2023 2:26 pm
CodyCat wrote:
Mon Feb 27, 2023 1:42 pm
js1010 wrote:
Mon Feb 27, 2023 10:29 am
CatBot wrote:
Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:43 pm
gtapp wrote:
Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:39 pm
Have or would the Cat Hockey team ever play a college team (UND, UM)?
Good question and I have lots more in the same line. I don't actually understand what's happening other than I'm really excited about all the wins. Perhaps someone can explain or post a link that describes the level of play and how it relates to other college hockey. Any help would be appreciated.
As others have said it's a club team so its not part of the athletic department. To be more specific, they do not play in the NCAA but rather the ACHA (American Collegiate Hockey Association). There are agreements between the ACHA and NCAA, mostly around use of NCAA rule book and player transfers and eligibility (a player can't play 4 years for an NCAA team then another 4 at an ACHA team, or vice versa, for example). However ACHA teams are not officially sanctioned by the NCAA which means they dont get financial support or count towards Title IX requirements.

To try and compare the difference between ACHA and NCAA there are a couple of players on the Cats hockey team that transferred from an NCAA DIII school. Also, keep in mind there are multiple divisions within the ACHA and MSU is an ACHA DII team.

To answer your original question on level of play and if they would ever play against North Dakota, short answer is, no, probably not. I think the football analogy would be a frontier conference team playing a PAC12 team. So imagine Montana Western playing University of Utah.
The Cats also have an ACHA DIII Team, correct?
Correct - a D2 and D3 team. Arizona State has a NCAA team, as well as ACHA team(s) and I'm sure there are many other schools like that.

I saw the Big Sky Conference send out a tweet asking if they should add hockey.
If you had men's hockey, where are the increase in women's sports going to be? I don't know what the club teams prospects are for a women's team.
I don’t think you would need a women’s club team to start a women’s sport but there is women’s club hockey at MSU right now. That would be reasonably inexpensive to get started.

Re: Bobcat Hockey wins second straight title

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 4:54 pm
by CatBot
Thanks @js1010 and others for the insight and conversation. I absolutely love the idea of adding both men's and women's hockey (a wash with Title IX). This should be a priority imo.

Re: Bobcat Hockey wins second straight title

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:18 pm
by kennethnoisewater
CatBot wrote:
Mon Feb 27, 2023 4:54 pm
Thanks @js1010 and others for the insight and conversation. I absolutely love the idea of adding both men's and women's hockey (a wash with Title IX). This should be a priority imo.
I'd love to see it, but I don't think it needs to be a priority. It'll cost a fortune to get a rink on campus that would be sufficient for NCAA competition and I'm not sure where that money is coming from.

Re: Bobcat Hockey wins second straight title

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 10:02 pm
by CatBot
kennethnoisewater wrote:
Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:18 pm
CatBot wrote:
Mon Feb 27, 2023 4:54 pm
Thanks @js1010 and others for the insight and conversation. I absolutely love the idea of adding both men's and women's hockey (a wash with Title IX). This should be a priority imo.
I'd love to see it, but I don't think it needs to be a priority. It'll cost a fortune to get a rink on campus that would be sufficient for NCAA competition and I'm not sure where that money is coming from.
I was guessing, based on the rodeo team, it wouldn't need to be on campus. Not sure what the NCAA requirements are though. You certainly make a good point.

Re: Bobcat Hockey wins second straight title

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 10:37 pm
by AFCAT
CatBot wrote:
Mon Feb 27, 2023 10:02 pm
kennethnoisewater wrote:
Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:18 pm
CatBot wrote:
Mon Feb 27, 2023 4:54 pm
Thanks @js1010 and others for the insight and conversation. I absolutely love the idea of adding both men's and women's hockey (a wash with Title IX). This should be a priority imo.
I'd love to see it, but I don't think it needs to be a priority. It'll cost a fortune to get a rink on campus that would be sufficient for NCAA competition and I'm not sure where that money is coming from.
I was guessing, based on the rodeo team, it wouldn't need to be on campus. Not sure what the NCAA requirements are though. You certainly make a good point.
How much would it cost to build a hockey rink in the Brick?

Re: Bobcat Hockey wins second straight title

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2023 12:46 am
by seataccat
My son plays on a youth rep B team in a Canadian league here in Washington state.and has been traveling on a couple showcase teams as well. He has a chance to play in the WHL next season if he gets drafted. If not he's got some tryouts for the BCHL. If nothing worth pursuing works out he might look into the club level hockey in the BSC and just be a student. It really sounds great and I'm sure he'd enjoy that. Does anyone know how the skill level would compare to the junior level leagues? Such as the NA3HL teams like the Helena bighorns or the Bozeman ice dogs?