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Bobcats open up as 21.5pt underdog @ Texas Tech

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2019 11:41 am
by HawkAndBobcat
https://www.5dimes.eu/livelines/livelines.aspx#al_38

Hopefully we can cover the spread!

Go Cats!

Re: Bobcats open up as 21.5pt underdog @ Texas Tech

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2019 1:49 pm
by Cledus
HawkAndBobcat wrote:
Thu Aug 22, 2019 11:41 am
https://www.5dimes.eu/livelines/livelines.aspx#al_38

Hopefully we can cover the spread!

Go Cats!
Even if TTU covers, I think they'll be very surprised and impressed with our athleticism. I don't think they'll be expecting guys like Scrempos, Sterk, Alleyne, and Andersen to blow their tits right off.

Re: Bobcats open up as 21.5pt underdog @ Texas Tech

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:18 pm
by RickRund
Not sure if you can do a comparison as it would probably be apples to oranges but I am looking at the Cougs game 3 years ago and we are above that level today. I also feel the Cougs may have been a touch better than TT. Not that we will win but feel it will be closer than many figure...

Re: Bobcats open up as 21.5pt underdog @ Texas Tech

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:46 pm
by Cledus
RickRund wrote:
Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:18 pm
Not sure if you can do a comparison as it would probably be apples to oranges but I am looking at the Cougs game 3 years ago and we are above that level today. I also feel the Cougs may have been a touch better than TT. Not that we will win but feel it will be closer than many figure...
I agree. I think if Bauman can keep his nerves in check and stay calm and focused we could cover.

Re: Bobcats open up as 21.5pt underdog @ Texas Tech

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:59 pm
by wbtfg
I really think Texas Tech is going to try to boat race us. They have a new coach and a new system and they are going to try to excite the fan base. I have no idea what their talent level is and how it compares to us, but based purely on the new coach narrative, I think they are going to try to blow us out of the water and won't be playing many backups.

Re: Bobcats open up as 21.5pt underdog @ Texas Tech

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2019 4:15 pm
by RickRund
wbtfg wrote:
Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:59 pm
I really think Texas Tech is going to try to boat race us. They have a new coach and a new system and they are going to try to excite the fan base. I have no idea what their talent level is and how it compares to us, but based purely on the new coach narrative, I think they are going to try to blow us out of the water and won't be playing many backups.
Which is something that the Cougs did not seem to do. They seemed to play it close to the vest. Or so in my opinion. That is my one worry...

Re: Bobcats open up as 21.5pt underdog @ Texas Tech

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2019 5:02 pm
by Montanabob
\:D/ go for the win yes.
Better than the 36 points Idaho's given up

Re: Bobcats open up as 21.5pt underdog @ Texas Tech

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2019 8:41 pm
by bobcatbob
Cledus wrote:
Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:46 pm
RickRund wrote:
Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:18 pm
Not sure if you can do a comparison as it would probably be apples to oranges but I am looking at the Cougs game 3 years ago and we are above that level today. I also feel the Cougs may have been a touch better than TT. Not that we will win but feel it will be closer than many figure...
I agree. I think if Bauman can keep his nerves in check and stay calm and focused we could cover.
That is a huge IF Bauman can keep his nerves in check. It will be a key. He is going to experience pressure like he has never seen.

Re: Bobcats open up as 21.5pt underdog @ Texas Tech

Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 7:44 am
by RobertoGato
Some of our esteemed internet colleagues over at eGriz.com predicted that if the mighty Griz can execute and avoid errors, they have a shot at toppling the Oregon Ducks!

Anyone over here feeling that special kind of stupid, or should we leave the idiocy to the west side of the divide?

Re: Bobcats open up as 21.5pt underdog @ Texas Tech

Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:10 am
by JimboCat
Historically, a 21.5 pt underdog has won the game about 5% of the time.

Re: Bobcats open up as 21.5pt underdog @ Texas Tech

Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:11 am
by 110010110
RobertoGato wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2019 7:44 am
Some of our esteemed internet colleagues over at eGriz.com predicted that if the mighty Griz can execute and avoid errors, they have a shot at toppling the Oregon Ducks!

Anyone over here feeling that special kind of stupid, or should we leave the idiocy to the west side of the divide?
Cats have a considerably larger chance of beating Texas Tech then they have of beating Oregon. By a couple orders of magnitude I'd say. But still, we are a 21 point underdog for a reason. What that tells me is we need to "steal" 21 points just to have a fair shot.

Re: Bobcats open up as 21.5pt underdog @ Texas Tech

Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:22 am
by Mr Lisle
RickRund wrote:
Thu Aug 22, 2019 4:15 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:59 pm
I really think Texas Tech is going to try to boat race us. They have a new coach and a new system and they are going to try to excite the fan base. I have no idea what their talent level is and how it compares to us, but based purely on the new coach narrative, I think they are going to try to blow us out of the water and won't be playing many backups.
Which is something that the Cougs did not seem to do. They seemed to play it close to the vest. Or so in my opinion. That is my one worry...
I hate to be "that guy", but actually the Cougs sucked in 2010. It was Paul Wulffs first year. I was at that game and I think he threw everything he had at it. I could see a bit of panic on his face as the clock was running down and the Cats were driving to close the deal. That "untimely" interception and long run back killed us. "If not for that".....as they say. I went home feeling the Cougs were out-played and out-coached. The Cougs managed to go 2-10, beating Oregon State late in the season.
Texas Tech, on the other hand, is a genuine Big 12 contender. This one will definitely be a bigger mountain.

Re: Bobcats open up as 21.5pt underdog @ Texas Tech

Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:29 am
by The MICKSTER
For what it's worth....for the next 2 weeks Highs in Lubbock are forecast to be between 88 & 107 with SA Aug 31st being 88.

Re: Bobcats open up as 21.5pt underdog @ Texas Tech

Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:35 am
by RickRund
Mr Lisle wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:22 am
RickRund wrote:
Thu Aug 22, 2019 4:15 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:59 pm
I really think Texas Tech is going to try to boat race us. They have a new coach and a new system and they are going to try to excite the fan base. I have no idea what their talent level is and how it compares to us, but based purely on the new coach narrative, I think they are going to try to blow us out of the water and won't be playing many backups.
Which is something that the Cougs did not seem to do. They seemed to play it close to the vest. Or so in my opinion. That is my one worry...
I hate to be "that guy", but actually the Cougs sucked in 2010. It was Paul Wulffs first year. I was at that game and I think he threw everything he had at it. I could see a bit of panic on his face as the clock was running down and the Cats were driving to close the deal. That "untimely" interception and long run back killed us. "If not for that".....as they say. I went home feeling the Cougs were out-played and out-coached. The Cougs managed to go 2-10, beating Oregon State late in the season.
Texas Tech, on the other hand, is a genuine Big 12 contender. This one will definitely be a bigger mountain.
I was talking about the 2017 game... Where we lost 31-0.

Re: Bobcats open up as 21.5pt underdog @ Texas Tech

Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:17 am
by BleedingBLue
As far as FBS defenses go, TTU isn't great. Not saying they are bad but I think they are a decent one to face for CB's 1st start. They lost 4 safeties to graduation and have almost no experience at the position. Their corners have experience but the secondary was their big weakness last year, which is good for us and CB. They lost 2 of their most productive LBs to graduation and have very little experience at OLB. Jordyn Brooks at ILB and Broderick Washington on the DL are the 2 players that we should really be worried about. They have experience on the DL but it isn't a blow you away unit. I don't think we will win, but i don't think we are going to be embarrassed either.

Re: Bobcats open up as 21.5pt underdog @ Texas Tech

Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:27 am
by Rich K
I think we'll cover the spread, easy. I just don't see Texas Tech as a team that will overwhelm this Bobcat unit. While it's not out of the question for TT to challenge for the Big 12, it's more likely that they finish in the bottom half. This is a 5-7 win Texas Tech team, not according to me, but according to a bunch of Tech fans here: https://247sports.com/college/texas-tec ... 34/?Page=2

My head prediction: TT 32 MSU 23
My heart prediction: MSU 32 TT 23

Re: Bobcats open up as 21.5pt underdog @ Texas Tech

Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 10:55 am
by Mr Lisle
:yawn:
RickRund wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:35 am
Mr Lisle wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:22 am
RickRund wrote:
Thu Aug 22, 2019 4:15 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:59 pm
I really think Texas Tech is going to try to boat race us. They have a new coach and a new system and they are going to try to excite the fan base. I have no idea what their talent level is and how it compares to us, but based purely on the new coach narrative, I think they are going to try to blow us out of the water and won't be playing many backups.
Which is something that the Cougs did not seem to do. They seemed to play it close to the vest. Or so in my opinion. That is my one worry...
I hate to be "that guy", but actually the Cougs sucked in 2010. It was Paul Wulffs first year. I was at that game and I think he threw everything he had at it. I could see a bit of panic on his face as the clock was running down and the Cats were driving to close the deal. That "untimely" interception and long run back killed us. "If not for that".....as they say. I went home feeling the Cougs were out-played and out-coached. The Cougs managed to go 2-10, beating Oregon State late in the season.
Texas Tech, on the other hand, is a genuine Big 12 contender. This one will definitely be a bigger mountain.
I was talking about the 2017 game... Where we lost 31-0.oh
oh. Of course. Seems as time goes by it's easier to remember what happened last week than what happened yesterday. :yawn: :sleep:

Re: Bobcats open up as 21.5pt underdog @ Texas Tech

Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 11:06 am
by catatac
I wonder what the oddsmakers would have for a TT, NDSU match up? I'd guess they'd probably have that one about even.

Re: Bobcats open up as 21.5pt underdog @ Texas Tech

Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 11:22 am
by Cledus
catatac wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2019 11:06 am
I wonder what the oddsmakers would have for a TT, NDSU match up? I'd guess they'd probably have that one about even.
I just ran a simulation and it had Texas Tech, 35-27. I think NDSU would win. I just don't see how these simulators measure and account for intangibles and qualitative factors. I'd bet in every year NDSU has beaten an FBS school all the simulations had the FBS school winning, except for the years NDSU played the Goofers.

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Re: Bobcats open up as 21.5pt underdog @ Texas Tech

Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 1:14 pm
by Montanabob
Cledus wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2019 11:22 am
catatac wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2019 11:06 am
I wonder what the oddsmakers would have for a TT, NDSU match up? I'd guess they'd probably have that one about even.
I just ran a simulation and it had Texas Tech, 35-27. I think NDSU would win. I just don't see how these simulators measure and account for intangibles and qualitative factors. I'd bet in every year NDSU has beaten an FBS school all the simulations had the FBS school winning, except for the years NDSU played the Goofers.

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Well surprise, surprise - they have the Brawl of the Wild at 28-30, MSU wins.....