Jeff Larson

SteelheadBum · Post by **SteelheadBum** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 6:29 pm

I thought the word on Jeff Larson (our future QB) was suppose to be announced today

I friend of mind who ranches on the Hi-Line tells me he saw Mr. Larson practicing basketball the other day. He said he is a "fine kid, comes from a good family and has the frame to grown into a serious stud." Sounds like Jeff is considering his options at this point. Well, Jeff, MSU is the best option

GO CATS!!!

longhorn_22 · Post by **longhorn_22** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 7:21 pm

Anyone have his season stats?

lifeloyalsigmsu · Post by **lifeloyalsigmsu** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 7:33 pm

longhorn_22 wrote:Anyone have his season stats?

I tried finding some stats thru maxpreps.com (or is it maxprep.com)

I couldn't locate anything.

My best advice is to just search the Tribune archives for his numbers or maybe even the weekly local Cut Bank rag.

From his individual games that I read, he seems to have run the ball quite a bit and I saw rushing numbers in the 100's on several occasions. Keep in mind, this was with a very talented running back lined up behind him.

He didn't pass the ball a great deal from the little snippets I read so who knows there. Besides, Cut Bank has never really been a passing team. When Kowalski was there, they ran the ball very well and their defense was great.

I don't know if his coach will have any influence with his decision, but I do know that Paul Schilling's family has nothing but Griz ties. His father (or maybe uncle) Gene Schilling was a great football player (I think he played for the griz) and Gene's son Kurt Schilling was an LB for the griz in the early 90's.

Platinumcat · Post by **Platinumcat** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 8:23 pm

lifeloyalsigmsu wrote:
longhorn_22 wrote:Anyone have his season stats?
I tried finding some stats thru maxpreps.com (or is it maxprep.com)

I couldn't locate anything.

My best advice is to just search the Tribune archives for his numbers or maybe even the weekly local Cut Bank rag.

From his individual games that I read, he seems to have run the ball quite a bit and I saw rushing numbers in the 100's on several occasions. Keep in mind, this was with a very talented running back lined up behind him.

He didn't pass the ball a great deal from the little snippets I read so who knows there. Besides, Cut Bank has never really been a passing team. When Kowalski was there, they ran the ball very well and their defense was great.

I don't know if his coach will have any influence with his decision, but I do know that Paul Schilling's family has nothing but Griz ties. His father (or maybe uncle) Gene Schilling was a great football player (I think he played for the griz) and Gene's son Kurt Schilling was an LB for the griz in the early 90's.

I don't think Larson's numbers are astronomical. This is due mostly to the fact that Cut Bank's starters only played the first half (or somewhere around there) for almost all of their games.

SenorWeezer · Post by **SenorWeezer** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 9:50 pm

I have a buddy from Fairfield (only losses this year to Cut Bank) and he says Larson is a stud, but didn't have to show really how good he is because Cut Bank's running game was so strong. I would love to see him in Bozeman next year!

CARDIAC_CATS · Post by **CARDIAC_CATS** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 9:23 am

He should choose MSU! A great program and a great education! I guarantee you Jeff if you go to MSU you will NOT REGRET the decision to go practice/live/go to school in beautiful Bozeman, Mt. I am a high line guy too and when I first hit Bozeman out of high school I was hooked. Nothing better than Bozeman in the Spring/Summer/Fall ... or winter (if your a skiier .. which I'm not

).

wbtfg · Post by **wbtfg** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:11 pm

I've heard (3rd hand) from a griz fan that he's leaning towards MSU.

CatFamily · Post by **CatFamily** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:53 pm

I have a brother in Cut Bank whose kids are good friends and has talked to Larson himself... Griz are out of it as they offered gray shirt walk on... and it is and always has been for the most part between the Bobcats and Carroll Saints. Carroll is hot on Larson... who is also an excellent basketball player... MVP at State B last year... and my brother ran into Kramer and who he thought was AD Fields at a restaraunt just after they talked to Larson. That's about all I know... other than he would prefer MSU if given the right incentive obviously. Carroll is a tough recruiting competitor right now because of their success.

CatFamily · Post by **CatFamily** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:54 pm

It was Kramer and another person whom my brother was told was AD Fields. Hard to believe Fields would be there though.

longhorn_22 · Post by **longhorn_22** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:58 pm

CatFamily wrote:I have a brother in Cut Bank whose kids are good friends and has talked to Larson himself... Griz are out of it as they offered gray shirt walk on... and it is and always has been for the most part between the Bobcats and Carroll Saints. Carroll is hot on Larson... who is also an excellent basketball player... MVP at State B last year... and my brother ran into Kramer and who he thought was AD Fields at a restaraunt just after they talked to Larson. That's about all I know... other than he would prefer MSU if given the right incentive obviously. Carroll is a tough recruiting competitor right now because of their success.

We better get on the stick and get him. If we don't get Larson, I will very disappointed in our recruiting class. I think he is that important to us this year. Not only to improve our talent, but to keep up with the griz.

BobCatFan · Post by **BobCatFan** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 8:16 pm

Jeff, if you are reading this board, it thinks do not work, you still can transfer to Carroll.

JahGriz · Post by **JahGriz** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 11:32 pm

Freaking Phenice. Larson is the best QB in the state, and we offer Selle full, and Larson a gray shirt.
I don't understand these guys sometime. Larson has better wheels and is more athletic than Selle, though they are very close QB wise. It is impossible, to say, really, who will be better (even though I said Larson was better). But the tie breaker for me is speed.
I'm pretty sure Larson wants to play at the I-AA level, so cat fans may still get him.
I just think Larson has a higher ceiling than Selle. Though I hope I'm wrong.
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Though on second though ti I should wait to see the full recruiting class. I they don't waste any scholarships then I can't complain. If they do get a scrub on scholarship, then I'll be more pissed about Larson not being offered much.

BobcatLionFan · Post by **BobcatLionFan** » Sat Dec 03, 2005 5:58 pm

Grey Shirt has nothing to do with not getting a scholarship. Most kids truely on Grey Shirt do have scholarships.

Grey shirt is when the kid doesn't qualify academically. Either the SAT is to low (below 800? in the past, now probably 1200) and/or grade point.

Grey shirt means the kid can't practice with the team, suit up for games or ... He can lift however and go to school. The next year he can Red shirt. Hoff is doing that for the Cats this year.

I don't know if a grey shirt actually counts against the scholarships (64 or I-AA). If a player is a stud, who cares, you still get him for 4 years. Just gives a kid a chance to succeed in school before having the presures of 30+ hours per week on football compete with school.

twentythreeOh4 · Post by **twentythreeOh4** » Sat Dec 03, 2005 7:16 pm

BobcatLionFan wrote: Grey shirt is when the kid doesn't qualify academically. Either the SAT is to low (below 800? in the past, now probably 1200) and/or grade point.

Grey shirt means the kid can't practice with the team, suit up for games or ... He can lift however and go to school. The next year he can Red shirt. Hoff is doing that for the Cats this year.

I don't know if a grey shirt actually counts against the scholarships (64 or I-AA). If a player is a stud, who cares, you still get him for 4 years. Just gives a kid a chance to succeed in school before having the presures of 30+ hours per week on football compete with school.

Grey shirt doesn't have anything to do with academics, that's a prop48. Grey shirts were designed for kids who are injured in high school and need extra time to rehab -- although I think the definition of injury can be pretty loosely interpreted. Basically a grey shirt player has to enroll in school and pay their own way in the fall, they are not part of the team. They join the team as a freshman in January and can then get scholarship aid.

longhorn_22 · Post by **longhorn_22** » Sat Dec 03, 2005 7:32 pm

So does anyone know if we have offered Larson anything?

JahGriz · Post by **JahGriz** » Sat Dec 03, 2005 8:13 pm

23 is right. Grey shirt is basically putting a kid off for a year, I-A's do it all the time. You pay for school for a year, then can get a scholarship your second year and still redshirt in many cases.
That is how the Griz got Balough, UW wanted to grey shirt him, then redshirt him, he didn't want to wait a minimum of two years to see the field. The QB that backed out of his verbal to the Griz, Cole Morgan gray shirted at Wazzu instead of coming to the Griz.
It would be great if he accepted a grey shirt for the Griz, but I don't see it happening when others want him right away.

VictorG · Post by **VictorG** » Sun Dec 04, 2005 10:37 am

JahGriz wrote:I just think Larson has a higher ceiling than Selle. Though I hope I'm wrong.

I've never seen Selle play but I do know some coaches who have coached against him and they say he has a cannon for an arm. Word is he can chuck that ball 70 yards and for a HS kid that's not bad at all. Now I know arm strength is only part of the QB equation but arm strength is one of the thing that cannot be taught!

94VegasCat · Post by **94VegasCat** » Sun Dec 04, 2005 2:02 pm

VictorG wrote:I've never seen Selle play but I do know some coaches who have coached against him and they say he has a cannon for an arm. Word is he can chuck that ball 70 yards and for a HS kid that's not bad at all. Now I know arm strength is only part of the QB equation but arm strength is one of the thing that cannot be taught!

the griz will have to have him start from the punt formation if they want him to complete a pass........have you seen his 40 time? Let me go get a drink of water and when I get back he'll be done running.

VictorG · Post by **VictorG** » Sun Dec 04, 2005 4:21 pm

94VegasCat wrote: the griz will have to have him start from the punt formation if they want him to complete a pass........have you seen his 40 time? Let me go get a drink of water and when I get back he'll be done running.

That may be true right now. I'm hoping our offense changes and we see less QB running. Anyway, foot speed CAN be improved upon with work and coaching. Maybe not a night and day difference, but it can be made better. Besides, we're going to have such blazing WR speed he'll just have to count to 3 and chuck it up as high and far as he can and our WR's will just run under it!

Grizcat · Post by **Grizcat** » Sun Dec 04, 2005 9:50 pm

A little bitter that the Cats don't have him, Vegas? If 4.77 is a slow time for a quarterback then you'd be right. Of course if Desin ends up the Cat QB he'll be in punt formation too to account for his lack of accuracy.