Troy Andersen
Moderators: rtb, kmax, SonomaCat
- Common Cat
- BobcatNation Hall of Famer
- Posts: 3172
- Joined: Thu Jun 07, 2007 9:10 am
- Location: Spokane
Re: Troy Andersen
Watching the replay. Part of Anderson's success was due to Curtis Amos crushing dudes as a lead blocker. Heck of a game for him.
@rfoley77 @rrcatcast Golden Coolie
-
- 1st Team All-BobcatNation
- Posts: 1876
- Joined: Tue Dec 04, 2012 10:27 pm
Re: Troy Andersen
Amen. He's a stud, a punishing runner, who also happens to be really fast. I can not wait to see how he improves, once he does truly start to learn the nuances of the position. Sky's the limit, IMO.PapaG wrote:He's 6'3" and looks to be about 220 now and is a power RB who runs over people instead of around them. If you expect him to be Barry Sanders at Troy's size, you must not know football very well. No back that size is "elusive," with the possible exception of Marcus Allen, who was a Freak of nature with elusiveness, size, and speed. Al Davis is why Marcus isn't the all-time leading rusher in the NFL.bobcat99 wrote:He's a good RB, but I think some of that is because we play in the Big Sky.
He succeeds because he's big and fast, but he just doesn't look like a RB to me. He is not what I would call fluid, he runs stiff, pretty much exactly like a big LB. It absolutely works, but I think he has a pro future at LB, and he doesn't at RB.
I can't believe some of the posts in this thread about a true freshman who just mauled NoDak. As for the pros, he just had his second start, ever, and he's 18 years old. Who cares about pro football at this point? He seemed pretty happy to just help his team end a NoDak 11-game conference win streak.
- 60's Cat
- BobcatNation Team Captain
- Posts: 522
- Joined: Mon Nov 12, 2007 6:24 pm
Re: Troy Andersen
What are you smoking Dano?HawaiiFiveO wrote:Let's not get ahead of ourselves NDU was out 9 starters...I hold firm that he's a LB not a true RB....Lets revisit this discussion next Saturday...
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
-
- Golden Bobcat
- Posts: 4415
- Joined: Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:11 am
Re: Troy Andersen
Yes Greg, I definitely expect him to run like Barry Sanders. Exactly what I said. Try to cut out the hyperbole.PapaG wrote:He's 6'3" and looks to be about 220 now and is a power RB who runs over people instead of around them. If you expect him to be Barry Sanders at Troy's size, you must not know football very well. No back that size is "elusive," with the possible exception of Marcus Allen, who was a Freak of nature with elusiveness, size, and speed. Al Davis is why Marcus isn't the all-time leading rusher in the NFL.bobcat99 wrote:He's a good RB, but I think some of that is because we play in the Big Sky.
He succeeds because he's big and fast, but he just doesn't look like a RB to me. He is not what I would call fluid, he runs stiff, pretty much exactly like a big LB. It absolutely works, but I think he has a pro future at LB, and he doesn't at RB.
I can't believe some of the posts in this thread about a true freshman who just mauled NoDak. As for the pros, he just had his second start, ever, and he's 18 years old. Who cares about pro football at this point? He seemed pretty happy to just help his team end a NoDak 11-game conference win streak.
And yes, he's a big tall back. There's a reason we don't see very many of those. It's because they typically run high, run stiff, get hurt.
Now Anderson can do it at this level and do very well. I think against better competition it probably won't work as well. I think he makes more of an impact on defense. Choate, who said that he wishes he could sill have Anderson on defense, apparently agrees with me. I think anybody that watches him play RB, that knows anything about football, would say he looks like a linebacker playing RB. All I'm saying is that it'll work fine at this level, but I don't think it's his best position. Fair enough, Greggie?
- wbtfg
- Golden Bobcat
- Posts: 13634
- Joined: Sat Apr 03, 2004 12:52 pm
Re: Troy Andersen
Good observation. Right onCommon Cat wrote:Watching the replay. Part of Anderson's success was due to Curtis Amos crushing dudes as a lead blocker. Heck of a game for him.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
-
- BobcatNation Team Captain
- Posts: 577
- Joined: Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:42 pm
Re: Troy Andersen
Same size as Eric Dickerson, but I think his defensive background will keep him physical and finishing runs
Downhill - like Coach Chote said - run the ball down their throats and take their souls. And from where Troy
Came from - yes he is all about Team .
Downhill - like Coach Chote said - run the ball down their throats and take their souls. And from where Troy
Came from - yes he is all about Team .
Where ever you go , There you are .... Protect the Rock ~ Create TurnOvers ~ Execute on every Play
- PapaG
- Golden Bobcat
- Posts: 8577
- Joined: Mon Mar 29, 2004 11:44 am
- Location: The Magic City, MT
Re: Troy Andersen
You said he's not "elusive." Well no sh*t, whatever your name is. That's not what backs of his size do well. Thank goodness small backs who are elusive never get injured! MSU has never had a small, elusive back get banged up, right? How often was Chad Neweel injured? Ryan Johnson? Those are the two bigger backs I remember, and they seemed to stay healthy and played a lot of snaps.bobcat99 wrote:Yes Greg, I definitely expect him to run like Barry Sanders. Exactly what I said. Try to cut out the hyperbole.PapaG wrote:He's 6'3" and looks to be about 220 now and is a power RB who runs over people instead of around them. If you expect him to be Barry Sanders at Troy's size, you must not know football very well. No back that size is "elusive," with the possible exception of Marcus Allen, who was a Freak of nature with elusiveness, size, and speed. Al Davis is why Marcus isn't the all-time leading rusher in the NFL.bobcat99 wrote:He's a good RB, but I think some of that is because we play in the Big Sky.
He succeeds because he's big and fast, but he just doesn't look like a RB to me. He is not what I would call fluid, he runs stiff, pretty much exactly like a big LB. It absolutely works, but I think he has a pro future at LB, and he doesn't at RB.
I can't believe some of the posts in this thread about a true freshman who just mauled NoDak. As for the pros, he just had his second start, ever, and he's 18 years old. Who cares about pro football at this point? He seemed pretty happy to just help his team end a NoDak 11-game conference win streak.
And yes, he's a big tall back. There's a reason we don't see very many of those. It's because they typically run high, run stiff, get hurt.
Now Anderson can do it at this level and do very well. I think against better competition it probably won't work as well. I think he makes more of an impact on defense. Choate, who said that he wishes he could sill have Anderson on defense, apparently agrees with me. I think anybody that watches him play RB, that knows anything about football, would say he looks like a linebacker playing RB. All I'm saying is that it'll work fine at this level, but I don't think it's his best position. Fair enough, Greggie?
Last edited by PapaG on Sun Sep 24, 2017 9:40 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Seattle to Billings to Missoula to Bozeman to Portland to Billings
What a ride
What a ride
- PapaG
- Golden Bobcat
- Posts: 8577
- Joined: Mon Mar 29, 2004 11:44 am
- Location: The Magic City, MT
Re: Troy Andersen
Bobcat99 obviously knows better than Choate about what Andersen does best. What's funny is a LB needs to not be a straight ahead player, which 99 and I agree Troy is a straight power runner, yet that's Bobcat99's issue with Andersen as a RB.Buckaroo Bonzi wrote:Same size as Eric Dickerson, but I think his defensive background will keep him physical and finishing runs
Downhill - like Coach Chote said - run the ball down their throats and take their souls. And from where Troy
Came from - yes he is all about Team .
How many NFL LBs run straight ahead and aren't "elusive?" I can't think of one, since that means they can't cover TEs or RBs on pass plays.
Last edited by PapaG on Sun Sep 24, 2017 9:35 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Seattle to Billings to Missoula to Bozeman to Portland to Billings
What a ride
What a ride
- PapaG
- Golden Bobcat
- Posts: 8577
- Joined: Mon Mar 29, 2004 11:44 am
- Location: The Magic City, MT
Re: Troy Andersen
When did Choate say he wishes he had "straight ahead" Andersen on defense instead of offense?
Seattle to Billings to Missoula to Bozeman to Portland to Billings
What a ride
What a ride
- utucats
- Member # Retired
- Posts: 2882
- Joined: Wed Aug 08, 2012 3:58 pm
Re: Troy Andersen
In Choate We Trust!91catAlum wrote:Wow, the kid just ran for 130 yards in his 2nd game as a true freshman and half our fans want to move him to LB. Let me ask you guys, what team do you coach???
Let Choate make the player position decisions, and don't quit your day jobs.
- PapaG
- Golden Bobcat
- Posts: 8577
- Joined: Mon Mar 29, 2004 11:44 am
- Location: The Magic City, MT
Re: Troy Andersen
Then again, "bobcat99" was one of the biggest sh*t talkers about DeNarius McGhee blowing up the locker room because of the Pike thing.
Choate somehow managed to dispel that damaging and anonymous gossip and still hired DMG as a QB coach.
Choate somehow managed to dispel that damaging and anonymous gossip and still hired DMG as a QB coach.
Seattle to Billings to Missoula to Bozeman to Portland to Billings
What a ride
What a ride
- catsrback76
- Golden Bobcat
- Posts: 8744
- Joined: Mon Oct 10, 2005 11:18 am
- Location: Sitting on the hill looking at the Adriatic!
Re: Troy Andersen
I actually don't see Newell in Andersen as much as I see Ryan Johnson. He is a pounder like Newell, but he has better balance and is faster. As his game rounds out, I think he will be more of a Johnson look a like, then a Newell. IMO.BelgradeBobcat wrote:Trey Robinson-Chad Newell-Troy Andersen.
- Helcat72
- Golden Bobcat
- Posts: 4290
- Joined: Mon Mar 29, 2004 9:47 pm
- Location: Helena
Re: Troy Andersen
I can hardly wait until they introduce him to the passing game. We haven't even scratched the surface of what Troy can do. Can you imagine using him in some of the plays they ran with ShaunJohn? I imagine trying to tackle him in the open field is like tackling a girraffe!
2024 Resume dominance
- PapaG
- Golden Bobcat
- Posts: 8577
- Joined: Mon Mar 29, 2004 11:44 am
- Location: The Magic City, MT
Re: Troy Andersen
A RB's success is helped by good blocking? I've never heard of that before!Common Cat wrote:Watching the replay. Part of Anderson's success was due to Curtis Amos crushing dudes as a lead blocker. Heck of a game for him.
Seattle to Billings to Missoula to Bozeman to Portland to Billings
What a ride
What a ride
- PapaG
- Golden Bobcat
- Posts: 8577
- Joined: Mon Mar 29, 2004 11:44 am
- Location: The Magic City, MT
Re: Troy Andersen
Those seem to be Vander's plays at this point. Whoops, didn't mean to give opposing DCs a hint.Helcat72 wrote:I can hardly wait until they introduce him to the passing game. We haven't even scratched the surface of what Troy can do. Can you imagine using him in some of the plays they ran with ShaunJohn? I imagine trying to tackle him in the open field is like tackling a girraffe!
Seattle to Billings to Missoula to Bozeman to Portland to Billings
What a ride
What a ride
-
- BobcatNation Hall of Famer
- Posts: 3044
- Joined: Thu Sep 01, 2011 6:58 pm
Re: Troy Andersen
Wow. I'd say enough with the snarky responses. So what if some have the opinion he'd make an NFL caliber LB. Some of you take it personally that other people have a different opinion. So what. Noone saying he sucks as a rb.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using Tapatalk
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using Tapatalk
-
- Golden Bobcat
- Posts: 9714
- Joined: Sun Nov 21, 2010 4:41 pm
- Location: Clancy, MT
Re: Troy Andersen
Ok, sorry for the snark, but don't you think it's a bit silly to say that a true freshman who's played 2 games at RB would be NFL caliber if our coaches would just move him to LB? What is that opinion based on? Serious question. What football knowledge do you have that makes you think that Troy is better at LB, when he's never taken a snap at this level? It's a very fair question.lutecat wrote:Wow. I'd say enough with the snarky responses. So what if some have the opinion he'd make an NFL caliber LB. Some of you take it personally that other people have a different opinion. So what. Noone saying he sucks as a rb.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using Tapatalk
For some reason, some people can't get over the fact that Troy is 6'3" and plays RB. And that's really the only thing they're basing their opinion on. Can't we just admit that Choate knows the situation better than any of us, and there's a reason he's got him at RB?
-
- BobcatNation Team Captain
- Posts: 577
- Joined: Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:42 pm
Re: Troy Andersen
Unfortunately I missed the Ryan Johnson years - I see a similarity in build to Tom Kostabra , I don't think Tom hadcatsrback76 wrote:I actually don't see Newell in Andersen as much as I see Ryan Johnson. He is a pounder like Newell, but he has better balance and is faster. As his game rounds out, I think he will be more of a Johnson look a like, then a Newell. IMO.BelgradeBobcat wrote:Trey Robinson-Chad Newell-Troy Andersen.
Troy's ought right speed, but he could be elusive and just as punishing in short yardage downs and near the goal line.
Tom was built like a Line backer 6' 2 - 215 ish and could run like a deer if he wanted to . Your thoughts ?
Where ever you go , There you are .... Protect the Rock ~ Create TurnOvers ~ Execute on every Play
-
- Member # Retired
- Posts: 2549
- Joined: Wed Aug 28, 2013 8:12 pm
Re: Troy Andersen
Loved Kostabra. Seemed to look for corners to hit when he got in the backfield the first half. Second half he took a step toward them then ran to the end zone.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
- CelticCat
- Golden Bobcat
- Posts: 12215
- Joined: Thu Apr 01, 2004 12:55 pm
- Location: Upper Northwest WA
- Contact:
Re: Troy Andersen
You know who else ran with their head down quite a bit? Cooper Kupp.
R&R Cat Cast - the only Bobcat fan podcast - https://www.rrcatcast.com
Twitter - https://twitter.com/rrcatcast
Twitter - https://twitter.com/rrcatcast