The most unofficial Bobcat gameday thread - Northern Colorado

[Colter_Nuanez]

[tetoncat]

Maybe Taco will start putting the ball on the right side when he runs.

What is the right side. He changed direction about 4 times and got hit from behind.

[GoCats18]

I really think that as soon as a Griz score goes final, and they don’t win…..that score needs to be put up on the big screen.

[tetoncat]

I’m not sure what the week of practice looks like for the DB’s, but it needs to be completely tweaked. I’m not feeling good about our D backfield.

My TV is all jacked up. Are we still playing 1’s on D?

A mix of 1’s and 2-3’s.

Maybe, keep the 1’s and 2’s in… They need the extra work! I only partially kid.

There is a big drop off from the 1’s…who are themselves having a nice year so far, but are very leaky against the passing game on slants and their tackling is uuuuufffff! Way too many shoulders and heads not enough arms and bodies.

Gave up 7 pts. And that was after a fumble at mid field. Even then it wasn't all starters in.

[tetoncat]

Ultimately, dominant win as it should have been… and 6-0 on the season, but there is still a lot of work to do on the D backfield side.

They will never hold a team to 0 catches down field and 0 yards.

[catsrback76]

I’m not sure what the week of practice looks like for the DB’s, but it needs to be completely tweaked. I’m not feeling good about our D backfield.

My TV is all jacked up. Are we still playing 1’s on D?

A mix of 1’s and 2-3’s.

Maybe, keep the 1’s and 2’s in… They need the extra work! I only partially kid.

There is a big drop off from the 1’s…who are themselves having a nice year so far, but are very leaky against the passing game on slants and their tackling is uuuuufffff! Way too many shoulders and heads not enough arms and bodies.

Gave up 7 pts. And that was after a fumble at mid field. Even then it wasn't all starters in.

The way I wrote it made it sound like I was concerned mainly with the 1’s, but I started by saying they’ve had a good year on the whole.
That said, particularly for the level of competition tonight and previously, the DB’s have been out of position too often, miscommunicated and missed coverages, and made weak attempts at tackling. The Defense on the whole is better than last year and that is why the scores have been limited. But once we mix in the 2’s and 3’s it’s pretty clear that a good passing attack is going to slice and dice us. I did see some nice plays from one of the back ups in the D backfield that had me encouraged. Rylan Ortt is a banger…so I’m not focused on him necessarily.

[Bobcat4Ever]

Run on 3rd&21????

Vigen’s style is low risk, field position.

Exactly. And with that great punter in hand — good call. Stuck them back on like the two yard line.

[Bobcat4Ever]

Unsportsmanlike conduct during the play? What?

Made a block, put the guy on his butt then stood over him like a tough guy.

It seems strange to me that an unsportsmanlike would call the play back. It’s more like a technical foul. It didn’t have anything to do with creating the play, like a hold or other execution penalty would. Seems like the penalty should have been assessed on the following kickoff. I felt badly for Taco, but at least he wasn’t having a public tantrum for which I give him a lot of credit.

[BleedingBLue]

Unsportsmanlike conduct during the play? What?

Made a block, put the guy on his butt then stood over him like a tough guy.

It seems strange to me that an unsportsmanlike would call the play back. It’s more like a technical foul. It didn’t have anything to do with creating the play, like a hold or other execution penalty would. Seems like the penalty should have been assessed on the following kickoff. I felt badly for Taco, but at least he wasn’t having a public tantrum for which I give him a lot of credit.

Normally unsportsmanlike is a dead ball penalty. Unfortunately it happened during the play making it a live ball penalty, thus negating the return. Definitely odd though.

[kwcat]

Unsportsmanlike conduct during the play? What?

Made a block, put the guy on his butt then stood over him like a tough guy.

It seems strange to me that an unsportsmanlike would call the play back. It’s more like a technical foul. It didn’t have anything to do with creating the play, like a hold or other execution penalty would. Seems like the penalty should have been assessed on the following kickoff. I felt badly for Taco, but at least he wasn’t having a public tantrum for which I give him a lot of credit.

Normally unsportsmanlike is a dead ball penalty. Unfortunately it happened during the play making it a live ball penalty, thus negating the return. Definitely odd though.

I never got to see the penalty. But the penalties for unsportsmanlike conduct have become very subjective between different refs and different venues. I think it was Portland state that got one today for excessive celebration and it wasn’t as much as what I’ve seen go on many other schools. Here again I think it’s a referee being subjective and players got to be a little more disciplined.

[TomCat88]

UNC's QB, who I'm not saying is great, was 6-for-12 for 67 yards and an INT in the first half. One of his passes was a tipped ball that covered either 21 or 27 yards. The other was caught in double coverage. So, 48 yards on two plays and four of his six completions were on the last drive of the half when they were in desperation* mode. That's a statistically good result even with the two big plays.

*ISU's best pass plays also came duration what I would call desperation mode. Two at the end of the first half and another on the TD pass in the second half. I won't include Hays' passing as he's not a good passer at all, but Tracy was only 17 of 33 for 183 yards (5.5 per att.) and two TDs. He had a free play heave for about 30 yards, got a great catch for a TD for another 5 and a made an outstanding play as he was being sacked and was able to thread the ball to a covered receiver for a TD from the 16. Those are perfect examples of 'the other team is going to make some plays' that Vigen and most head coaches talk about.

Offensively, MSU has shown most of its playbook over the course of the season, but it hasn't used it all in one game yet. They got away from one aspect almost entirely yesterday and they've underutilized (have basically hidden) another all season. I think you're going to see Coon more often unless MSU was just limiting Humphrey (only 10 carries) after a big load vs ISU. The biggest oddity was Adam Jones wasn't targeted yesterday. It seems Mellott could straight drop play fake at any time and get a wide-open receiver. Of his last 10 completions, I think four had receivers left all alone and three were TDs.

Injury-wise, Julius Davis looked pretty good warming up with the team in pregame yesterday. He's wearing a knee brace still but moving well. Sain is playing so well at center that there probably is no rush in getting Perkins back and I'm starting to think he might redshirt, barring anything catastrophic on the OL. With both Sain and Perkins being seniors that could be enticing to the coach. I haven't heard anything about Polidore in a while.

[Bocephus]

UNC's QB, who I'm not saying is great, was 6-for-12 for 67 yards and an INT in the first half. One of his passes was a tipped ball that covered either 21 or 27 yards. The other was caught in double coverage. So, 48 yards on two plays and four of his six completions were on the last drive of the half when they were in desperation* mode. That's a statistically good result even with the two big plays.

*ISU's best pass plays also came duration what I would call desperation mode. Two at the end of the first half and another on the TD pass in the second half. I won't include Hays' passing as he's not a good passer at all, but Tracy was only 17 of 33 for 183 yards (5.5 per att.) and two TDs. He had a free play heave for about 30 yards, got a great catch for a TD for another 5 and a made an outstanding play as he was being sacked and was able to thread the ball to a covered receiver for a TD from the 16. Those are perfect examples of 'the other team is going to make some plays' that Vigen and most head coaches talk about.

Offensively, MSU has shown most of its playbook over the course of the season, but it hasn't used it all in one game yet. They got away from one aspect almost entirely yesterday and they've underutilized (have basically hidden) another all season. I think you're going to see Coon more often unless MSU was just limiting Humphrey (only 10 carries) after a big load vs ISU. The biggest oddity was Adam Jones wasn't targeted yesterday. It seems Mellott could straight drop play fake at any time and get a wide-open receiver. Of his last 10 completions, I think four had receivers left all alone and three were TDs.

Injury-wise, Julius Davis looked pretty good warming up with the team in pregame yesterday. He's wearing a knee brace still but moving well. Sain is playing so well at center that there probably is no rush in getting Perkins back and I'm starting to think he might redshirt, barring anything catastrophic on the OL. With both Sain and Perkins being seniors that could be enticing to the coach. I haven't heard anything about Polidore in a while.

Would be pretty awesome to have Perkins at center next year with a new young QB.

[Clinton T]

UNC's QB, who I'm not saying is great, was 6-for-12 for 67 yards and an INT in the first half. One of his passes was a tipped ball that covered either 21 or 27 yards. The other was caught in double coverage. So, 48 yards on two plays and four of his six completions were on the last drive of the half when they were in desperation* mode. That's a statistically good result even with the two big plays.

*ISU's best pass plays also came duration what I would call desperation mode. Two at the end of the first half and another on the TD pass in the second half. I won't include Hays' passing as he's not a good passer at all, but Tracy was only 17 of 33 for 183 yards (5.5 per att.) and two TDs. He had a free play heave for about 30 yards, got a great catch for a TD for another 5 and a made an outstanding play as he was being sacked and was able to thread the ball to a covered receiver for a TD from the 16. Those are perfect examples of 'the other team is going to make some plays' that Vigen and most head coaches talk about.

Offensively, MSU has shown most of its playbook over the course of the season, but it hasn't used it all in one game yet. They got away from one aspect almost entirely yesterday and they've underutilized (have basically hidden) another all season. I think you're going to see Coon more often unless MSU was just limiting Humphrey (only 10 carries) after a big load vs ISU. The biggest oddity was Adam Jones wasn't targeted yesterday. It seems Mellott could straight drop play fake at any time and get a wide-open receiver. Of his last 10 completions, I think four had receivers left all alone and three were TDs.

Injury-wise, Julius Davis looked pretty good warming up with the team in pregame yesterday. He's wearing a knee brace still but moving well. Sain is playing so well at center that there probably is no rush in getting Perkins back and I'm starting to think he might redshirt, barring anything catastrophic on the OL. With both Sain and Perkins being seniors that could be enticing to the coach. I haven't heard anything about Polidore in a while.

Tom - how do you know MSU has shown most of its offensive playbook? Not being snarky - just curious. I am guessing it is from watching practices and time spent with the team leading up to the season.

[AFCAT]

UNC's QB, who I'm not saying is great, was 6-for-12 for 67 yards and an INT in the first half. One of his passes was a tipped ball that covered either 21 or 27 yards. The other was caught in double coverage. So, 48 yards on two plays and four of his six completions were on the last drive of the half when they were in desperation* mode. That's a statistically good result even with the two big plays.

*ISU's best pass plays also came duration what I would call desperation mode. Two at the end of the first half and another on the TD pass in the second half. I won't include Hays' passing as he's not a good passer at all, but Tracy was only 17 of 33 for 183 yards (5.5 per att.) and two TDs. He had a free play heave for about 30 yards, got a great catch for a TD for another 5 and a made an outstanding play as he was being sacked and was able to thread the ball to a covered receiver for a TD from the 16. Those are perfect examples of 'the other team is going to make some plays' that Vigen and most head coaches talk about.

Offensively, MSU has shown most of its playbook over the course of the season, but it hasn't used it all in one game yet. They got away from one aspect almost entirely yesterday and they've underutilized (have basically hidden) another all season. I think you're going to see Coon more often unless MSU was just limiting Humphrey (only 10 carries) after a big load vs ISU. The biggest oddity was Adam Jones wasn't targeted yesterday. It seems Mellott could straight drop play fake at any time and get a wide-open receiver. Of his last 10 completions, I think four had receivers left all alone and three were TDs.

Injury-wise, Julius Davis looked pretty good warming up with the team in pregame yesterday. He's wearing a knee brace still but moving well. Sain is playing so well at center that there probably is no rush in getting Perkins back and I'm starting to think he might redshirt, barring anything catastrophic on the OL. With both Sain and Perkins being seniors that could be enticing to the coach. I haven't heard anything about Polidore in a while.

Tom - how do you know MSU has shown most of its offensive playbook? Not being snarky - just curious. I am guessing it is from watching practices and time spent with the team leading up to the season.

Maybe the basic playbook, but the Cats are always installing new plays during the season. Heck, the pass from Ty to Taco was installed during the week.
I think it’s very possible we see Perkins back next season and Julius too. Julius still has his redshirt. We could see Julius 4 games this season and the playoffs and he could still come back next season.

[D-Wreck]

UNC's QB, who I'm not saying is great, was 6-for-12 for 67 yards and an INT in the first half. One of his passes was a tipped ball that covered either 21 or 27 yards. The other was caught in double coverage. So, 48 yards on two plays and four of his six completions were on the last drive of the half when they were in desperation* mode. That's a statistically good result even with the two big plays.

*ISU's best pass plays also came duration what I would call desperation mode. Two at the end of the first half and another on the TD pass in the second half. I won't include Hays' passing as he's not a good passer at all, but Tracy was only 17 of 33 for 183 yards (5.5 per att.) and two TDs. He had a free play heave for about 30 yards, got a great catch for a TD for another 5 and a made an outstanding play as he was being sacked and was able to thread the ball to a covered receiver for a TD from the 16. Those are perfect examples of 'the other team is going to make some plays' that Vigen and most head coaches talk about.

Offensively, MSU has shown most of its playbook over the course of the season, but it hasn't used it all in one game yet. They got away from one aspect almost entirely yesterday and they've underutilized (have basically hidden) another all season. I think you're going to see Coon more often unless MSU was just limiting Humphrey (only 10 carries) after a big load vs ISU. The biggest oddity was Adam Jones wasn't targeted yesterday. It seems Mellott could straight drop play fake at any time and get a wide-open receiver. Of his last 10 completions, I think four had receivers left all alone and three were TDs.

Injury-wise, Julius Davis looked pretty good warming up with the team in pregame yesterday. He's wearing a knee brace still but moving well. Sain is playing so well at center that there probably is no rush in getting Perkins back and I'm starting to think he might redshirt, barring anything catastrophic on the OL. With both Sain and Perkins being seniors that could be enticing to the coach. I haven't heard anything about Polidore in a while.

Tom - how do you know MSU has shown most of its offensive playbook? Not being snarky - just curious. I am guessing it is from watching practices and time spent with the team leading up to the season.

Maybe the basic playbook, but the Cats are always installing new plays during the season. Heck, the pass from Ty to Taco was installed during the week.
I think it’s very possible we see Perkins back next season and Julius too. Julius still has his redshirt. We could see Julius 4 games this season and the playoffs and he could still come back next season.

I was under the impression that Davis used his redshirt at Wisconsin.

Edit: spelling

[MSU01]

Both Julius and Justus used their normal redshirt years in 2019, so the only way either could play another year is if their injuries are season ending and they apply for a medical waiver to get a seventh year. As soon as either plays this year, their eligibility is done after the season is over. If Julius is out there warming up before games it would seem hard to justify his injury as season-ending.

[TomCat88]

UNC's QB, who I'm not saying is great, was 6-for-12 for 67 yards and an INT in the first half. One of his passes was a tipped ball that covered either 21 or 27 yards. The other was caught in double coverage. So, 48 yards on two plays and four of his six completions were on the last drive of the half when they were in desperation* mode. That's a statistically good result even with the two big plays.

*ISU's best pass plays also came duration what I would call desperation mode. Two at the end of the first half and another on the TD pass in the second half. I won't include Hays' passing as he's not a good passer at all, but Tracy was only 17 of 33 for 183 yards (5.5 per att.) and two TDs. He had a free play heave for about 30 yards, got a great catch for a TD for another 5 and a made an outstanding play as he was being sacked and was able to thread the ball to a covered receiver for a TD from the 16. Those are perfect examples of 'the other team is going to make some plays' that Vigen and most head coaches talk about.

Offensively, MSU has shown most of its playbook over the course of the season, but it hasn't used it all in one game yet. They got away from one aspect almost entirely yesterday and they've underutilized (have basically hidden) another all season. I think you're going to see Coon more often unless MSU was just limiting Humphrey (only 10 carries) after a big load vs ISU. The biggest oddity was Adam Jones wasn't targeted yesterday. It seems Mellott could straight drop play fake at any time and get a wide-open receiver. Of his last 10 completions, I think four had receivers left all alone and three were TDs.

Injury-wise, Julius Davis looked pretty good warming up with the team in pregame yesterday. He's wearing a knee brace still but moving well. Sain is playing so well at center that there probably is no rush in getting Perkins back and I'm starting to think he might redshirt, barring anything catastrophic on the OL. With both Sain and Perkins being seniors that could be enticing to the coach. I haven't heard anything about Polidore in a while.

Tom - how do you know MSU has shown most of its offensive playbook? Not being snarky - just curious. I am guessing it is from watching practices and time spent with the team leading up to the season.

I actually don’t know that. I’m saying that because MSU has done so many different things in terms of where it has gone with the ball. Teams can only do so much or they start to spread it too thin and aren’t proficient. They’ve had games where it looked like they were focused on a certain part of their offense and didn’t use other parts. It will be interesting to see if they start to mix all the different things together in one game.

There are six games remaining:
Idaho
At Portland State
Open
At EWU
Sacramento State
At Davis
Montana

Four relatively tough games and two others against not as tough teams but they’re both road games in places that can be tough to play. So I expect the offense to be more multiple with Mellott keeping teams honest in the run game. He’s spread the ball around in the pass game going mostly to the TE position but four have been used, which is exceptional. Adam Jones is a big cog out of the backfield and the WRs have had big moments at key times. I think MSU will be tougher to defend starting this week vs Idaho.

Just my two cents.

[wbtfg]

UNC's QB, who I'm not saying is great, was 6-for-12 for 67 yards and an INT in the first half. One of his passes was a tipped ball that covered either 21 or 27 yards. The other was caught in double coverage. So, 48 yards on two plays and four of his six completions were on the last drive of the half when they were in desperation* mode. That's a statistically good result even with the two big plays.

*ISU's best pass plays also came duration what I would call desperation mode. Two at the end of the first half and another on the TD pass in the second half. I won't include Hays' passing as he's not a good passer at all, but Tracy was only 17 of 33 for 183 yards (5.5 per att.) and two TDs. He had a free play heave for about 30 yards, got a great catch for a TD for another 5 and a made an outstanding play as he was being sacked and was able to thread the ball to a covered receiver for a TD from the 16. Those are perfect examples of 'the other team is going to make some plays' that Vigen and most head coaches talk about.

Offensively, MSU has shown most of its playbook over the course of the season, but it hasn't used it all in one game yet. They got away from one aspect almost entirely yesterday and they've underutilized (have basically hidden) another all season. I think you're going to see Coon more often unless MSU was just limiting Humphrey (only 10 carries) after a big load vs ISU. The biggest oddity was Adam Jones wasn't targeted yesterday. It seems Mellott could straight drop play fake at any time and get a wide-open receiver. Of his last 10 completions, I think four had receivers left all alone and three were TDs.

Injury-wise, Julius Davis looked pretty good warming up with the team in pregame yesterday. He's wearing a knee brace still but moving well. Sain is playing so well at center that there probably is no rush in getting Perkins back and I'm starting to think he might redshirt, barring anything catastrophic on the OL. With both Sain and Perkins being seniors that could be enticing to the coach. I haven't heard anything about Polidore in a while.

Tom - how do you know MSU has shown most of its offensive playbook? Not being snarky - just curious. I am guessing it is from watching practices and time spent with the team leading up to the season.

Maybe the basic playbook, but the Cats are always installing new plays during the season. Heck, the pass from Ty to Taco was installed during the week.
I think it’s very possible we see Perkins back next season and Julius too. Julius still has his redshirt. We could see Julius 4 games this season and the playoffs and he could still come back next season.

I was under the impression that Davis used his redshirt at Wisconsin.

Edit: spelling

I think you’re right, but I also think he had a season ending injury during that time, so a there’s a possibility a medical redshirt could be granted.

also, I have no idea how the ncaa evaluates these cases…

[BelgradeBobcat]

UNC's QB, who I'm not saying is great, was 6-for-12 for 67 yards and an INT in the first half. One of his passes was a tipped ball that covered either 21 or 27 yards. The other was caught in double coverage. So, 48 yards on two plays and four of his six completions were on the last drive of the half when they were in desperation* mode. That's a statistically good result even with the two big plays.

*ISU's best pass plays also came duration what I would call desperation mode. Two at the end of the first half and another on the TD pass in the second half. I won't include Hays' passing as he's not a good passer at all, but Tracy was only 17 of 33 for 183 yards (5.5 per att.) and two TDs. He had a free play heave for about 30 yards, got a great catch for a TD for another 5 and a made an outstanding play as he was being sacked and was able to thread the ball to a covered receiver for a TD from the 16. Those are perfect examples of 'the other team is going to make some plays' that Vigen and most head coaches talk about.

Watched Idaho State at Cal Poly quite a bit last night. ISU's quarterback who mostly had to resort to chucking it and hoping for the best against MSU for 183 yards, was throwing darts all over the field for 425 yards yesterday. It was eye opening to me how well our No. 1 defense as a unit is playing so far.

[AFCAT]

UNC's QB, who I'm not saying is great, was 6-for-12 for 67 yards and an INT in the first half. One of his passes was a tipped ball that covered either 21 or 27 yards. The other was caught in double coverage. So, 48 yards on two plays and four of his six completions were on the last drive of the half when they were in desperation* mode. That's a statistically good result even with the two big plays.

*ISU's best pass plays also came duration what I would call desperation mode. Two at the end of the first half and another on the TD pass in the second half. I won't include Hays' passing as he's not a good passer at all, but Tracy was only 17 of 33 for 183 yards (5.5 per att.) and two TDs. He had a free play heave for about 30 yards, got a great catch for a TD for another 5 and a made an outstanding play as he was being sacked and was able to thread the ball to a covered receiver for a TD from the 16. Those are perfect examples of 'the other team is going to make some plays' that Vigen and most head coaches talk about.

Offensively, MSU has shown most of its playbook over the course of the season, but it hasn't used it all in one game yet. They got away from one aspect almost entirely yesterday and they've underutilized (have basically hidden) another all season. I think you're going to see Coon more often unless MSU was just limiting Humphrey (only 10 carries) after a big load vs ISU. The biggest oddity was Adam Jones wasn't targeted yesterday. It seems Mellott could straight drop play fake at any time and get a wide-open receiver. Of his last 10 completions, I think four had receivers left all alone and three were TDs.

Injury-wise, Julius Davis looked pretty good warming up with the team in pregame yesterday. He's wearing a knee brace still but moving well. Sain is playing so well at center that there probably is no rush in getting Perkins back and I'm starting to think he might redshirt, barring anything catastrophic on the OL. With both Sain and Perkins being seniors that could be enticing to the coach. I haven't heard anything about Polidore in a while.

Tom - how do you know MSU has shown most of its offensive playbook? Not being snarky - just curious. I am guessing it is from watching practices and time spent with the team leading up to the season.

Maybe the basic playbook, but the Cats are always installing new plays during the season. Heck, the pass from Ty to Taco was installed during the week.
I think it’s very possible we see Perkins back next season and Julius too. Julius still has his redshirt. We could see Julius 4 games this season and the playoffs and he could still come back next season.

I was under the impression that Davis used his redshirt at Wisconsin.

Edit: spelling

Vigen mentioned that Julius still had his red shirt.