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Re: Depth chart is done

Post by catatac » Sun Aug 26, 2018 11:15 am

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As much of a golden god as Troy is, it just can’t be a good thing that none of your qbs wins your qb battle against the RB/LB. If nothing else, it takes away a top contender at RB or LB.

On top of that, The BSC is loaded with top QB talent.

All that being said, we haven’t struggled to put together 2 wins each of the past 2 years. And while we don’t have the most elusive player in the BSC in the backfield anymore, we are better built to play our brand of football (control LOS/ball/clock) than we have been in the past two years. As coach said, everyone is going to game plan for us the same way, just like they have for the past couple of years. If we can control the LOS, and it sounds like we are better prepared for that this year than in the past two, we should be able to win at least half our games.

If we win no more than 2 games in year 3, it’s time to re-evaluate our coaching situation.
Absolutely! Tom was kidding, in case anyone didn't pick up on that one. If the Bobcats only win two games in 2018 I would be willing to bet Choate wouldn't get fired, because he would quit on his own and get out of coaching. Not a chance in hell of that happening. =D^ Sit back and enjoy the ride. The 2018 Bobcats are going to be fun to watch.


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Re: Depth chart is done

Post by Cat Grad » Sun Aug 26, 2018 11:40 am

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Sun Aug 26, 2018 11:14 am
Its been said 100 times this camp, Bauman is a true freshman and he very well may be the starter for years to come. But starting a freshman, true or redshirt, is not the norm.
I know! That's just plumb assed stupid to even consider doing something like that! Could you image what kind of crap Saban or Smart would get if they ever thought of starting freshmen at Alabama or Georgia???? Geezzz



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Re: Depth chart is done

Post by BleedingBLue » Sun Aug 26, 2018 1:09 pm

Cat Grad wrote:
Sun Aug 26, 2018 11:40 am
BleedingBLue wrote:
Sun Aug 26, 2018 11:14 am
Its been said 100 times this camp, Bauman is a true freshman and he very well may be the starter for years to come. But starting a freshman, true or redshirt, is not the norm.
I know! That's just plumb assed stupid to even consider doing something like that! Could you image what kind of crap Saban or Smart would get if they ever thought of starting freshmen at Alabama or Georgia???? Geezzz
Like I said not the norm, and we're not Alabama. But I guess people can continue to gripe and be pessimistic before we've even seen a game this year.



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Re: Depth chart is done

Post by Cat Grad » Sun Aug 26, 2018 1:22 pm

BleedingBLue wrote:
Sun Aug 26, 2018 1:09 pm
Cat Grad wrote:
Sun Aug 26, 2018 11:40 am
BleedingBLue wrote:
Sun Aug 26, 2018 11:14 am
Its been said 100 times this camp, Bauman is a true freshman and he very well may be the starter for years to come. But starting a freshman, true or redshirt, is not the norm.
I know! That's just plumb assed stupid to even consider doing something like that! Could you image what kind of crap Saban or Smart would get if they ever thought of starting freshmen at Alabama or Georgia???? Geezzz
Like I said not the norm, and we're not Alabama. But I guess people can continue to gripe and be pessimistic before we've even seen a game this year.
True that. Wouldn't be surprised to see Fields beat out Fromm at some point this year though...



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Re: Depth chart is done

Post by bobcat99 » Sun Aug 26, 2018 1:39 pm

Cat Grad wrote:
Sun Aug 26, 2018 11:40 am
BleedingBLue wrote:
Sun Aug 26, 2018 11:14 am
Its been said 100 times this camp, Bauman is a true freshman and he very well may be the starter for years to come. But starting a freshman, true or redshirt, is not the norm.
I know! That's just plumb assed stupid to even consider doing something like that! Could you image what kind of crap Saban or Smart would get if they ever thought of starting freshmen at Alabama or Georgia???? Geezzz
Ah yes. Because we get similar talent as Bama and Georgia.



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Re: Depth chart is done

Post by Darth Yoda » Sun Aug 26, 2018 1:41 pm

It took until game week for this place to start going full ​. Not bad. In the old days it was pretty much all the time.



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Re: Depth chart is done

Post by Cat Grad » Sun Aug 26, 2018 2:02 pm

Darth Yoda wrote:
Sun Aug 26, 2018 1:41 pm
It took until game week for this place to start going full ​. Not bad. In the old days it was pretty much all the time.
When Tom88 starts getting sarcastic, you know it's time to start mocking schools like EWU or NAU for starting all those freshmen quarterbacks through the years! You know it just doesn't work! Have to give kids time to develop, ya know?



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Re: Depth chart is done

Post by utucats » Sun Aug 26, 2018 2:23 pm

Has anyone considered that maybe Troy could have been at QB the whole time? Everyone just assumes that he belongs at RB or LB, why? Because that is where he played last year. That is the reason most on here who think this is a bad idea want him at those positions. Last year Troy showed so well in practice that not only did he get on the field as a freshman, he got on both sides of the ball! Obviously he showed some signs in practice that he could play QB but why would Choate move a two way player to a position that is already locked up by Murray? He wouldn't. Now that Murray is out of the picture you say we have a legit QB and all around stud football player on roster, lets put him at that position.

I don't know how the season is going to play out but I do know that TA played off the charts as a freshman. I know that he has beaten out some talented guys for the QB spot(including Bauman). He has done this while facing our defense every day, and everyone on here seems pretty high on our D.

Choate and Cole know what they are doing. Lets watch at least one football game before we start second guessing the staff. My bet is that we see our ignorance in this QB debate by the end of the season.


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Re: Depth chart is done

Post by AFCAT » Sun Aug 26, 2018 2:34 pm

bobcat99 wrote:
Sun Aug 26, 2018 1:39 pm
Cat Grad wrote:
Sun Aug 26, 2018 11:40 am
BleedingBLue wrote:
Sun Aug 26, 2018 11:14 am
Its been said 100 times this camp, Bauman is a true freshman and he very well may be the starter for years to come. But starting a freshman, true or redshirt, is not the norm.
I know! That's just plumb assed stupid to even consider doing something like that! Could you image what kind of crap Saban or Smart would get if they ever thought of starting freshmen at Alabama or Georgia???? Geezzz
Ah yes. Because we get similar talent as Bama and Georgia.
It would be absolutely crazy to start a true or red shirt freshman at MSU.

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Re: Depth chart is done

Post by clancycat » Sun Aug 26, 2018 2:47 pm

utucats wrote:
Sun Aug 26, 2018 2:23 pm
Has anyone considered that maybe Troy could have been at QB the whole time? Everyone just assumes that he belongs at RB or LB, why? Because that is where he played last year. That is the reason most on here who think this is a bad idea want him at those positions. Last year Troy showed so well in practice that not only did he get on the field as a freshman, he got on both sides of the ball! Obviously he showed some signs in practice that he could play QB but why would Choate move a two way player to a position that is already locked up by Murray? He wouldn't. Now that Murray is out of the picture you say we have a legit QB and all around stud football player on roster, lets put him at that position.

I don't know how the season is going to play out but I do know that TA played off the charts as a freshman. I know that he has beaten out some talented guys for the QB spot(including Bauman). He has done this while facing our defense every day, and everyone on here seems pretty high on our D.

Choate and Cole know what they are doing. Lets watch at least one football game before we start second guessing the staff. My bet is that we see our ignorance in this QB debate by the end of the season.
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Re: Depth chart is done

Post by Cat Grad » Sun Aug 26, 2018 2:56 pm

AFCAT wrote:
Sun Aug 26, 2018 2:34 pm
bobcat99 wrote:
Sun Aug 26, 2018 1:39 pm
Cat Grad wrote:
Sun Aug 26, 2018 11:40 am
BleedingBLue wrote:
Sun Aug 26, 2018 11:14 am
Its been said 100 times this camp, Bauman is a true freshman and he very well may be the starter for years to come. But starting a freshman, true or redshirt, is not the norm.
I know! That's just plumb assed stupid to even consider doing something like that! Could you image what kind of crap Saban or Smart would get if they ever thought of starting freshmen at Alabama or Georgia???? Geezzz
Ah yes. Because we get similar talent as Bama and Georgia.
It would be absolutely crazy to start a true or red shirt freshman at MSU.

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Re: Depth chart is done

Post by CelticCat » Sun Aug 26, 2018 2:57 pm

I haven’t seen BN this divided since Ash’s last season.

We can argue about this aLL day, but it won’t change a thing. All we can do now is wait and see how it works against WIU.


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Re: Depth chart is done

Post by RickRund » Sun Aug 26, 2018 3:16 pm

I am willing to bet that both Choate and Cole didn't get together over a cold one and lament the qb position and figure since our starter was no longer available this season that they would pick some schmuck to go out and allow himself to be embarrassed.
NOT ONE BIT WORRIED... Pretty talented at ALL positions.


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Re: Depth chart is done

Post by mickle » Sun Aug 26, 2018 3:28 pm

utucats wrote:
Sun Aug 26, 2018 2:23 pm
Has anyone considered that maybe Troy could have been at QB the whole time? Everyone just assumes that he belongs at RB or LB, why? Because that is where he played last year. That is the reason most on here who think this is a bad idea want him at those positions. Last year Troy showed so well in practice that not only did he get on the field as a freshman, he got on both sides of the ball! Obviously he showed some signs in practice that he could play QB but why would Choate move a two way player to a position that is already locked up by Murray? He wouldn't. Now that Murray is out of the picture you say we have a legit QB and all around stud football player on roster, lets put him at that position.

I don't know how the season is going to play out but I do know that TA played off the charts as a freshman. I know that he has beaten out some talented guys for the QB spot(including Bauman). He has done this while facing our defense every day, and everyone on here seems pretty high on our D.

Choate and Cole know what they are doing. Lets watch at least one football game before we start second guessing the staff. My bet is that we see our ignorance in this QB debate by the end of the season.
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Re: Depth chart is done

Post by mslacatfan » Sun Aug 26, 2018 3:34 pm

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Sun Aug 26, 2018 1:41 pm
It took until game week for this place to start going full ​. Not bad. In the old days it was pretty much all the time.

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Re: Depth chart is done

Post by Cat Grad » Sun Aug 26, 2018 4:05 pm

utucats wrote:
Sun Aug 26, 2018 2:23 pm
Has anyone considered that maybe Troy could have been at QB the whole time? Everyone just assumes that he belongs at RB or LB, why? Because that is where he played last year. That is the reason most on here who think this is a bad idea want him at those positions. Last year Troy showed so well in practice that not only did he get on the field as a freshman, he got on both sides of the ball! Obviously he showed some signs in practice that he could play QB but why would Choate move a two way player to a position that is already locked up by Murray? He wouldn't. Now that Murray is out of the picture you say we have a legit QB and all around stud football player on roster, lets put him at that position.

I don't know how the season is going to play out but I do know that TA played off the charts as a freshman. I know that he has beaten out some talented guys for the QB spot(including Bauman). He has done this while facing our defense every day, and everyone on here seems pretty high on our D.

Choate and Cole know what they are doing. Lets watch at least one football game before we start second guessing the staff. My bet is that we see our ignorance in this QB debate by the end of the season.
Last year he was just a freshman so he couldn't play QB! Duh!!!!

This year they'll use him at QB, WR and safety to utilize his speed.



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Re: Depth chart is done

Post by utucats » Sun Aug 26, 2018 4:25 pm

RickRund wrote:
Sun Aug 26, 2018 3:16 pm
I am willing to bet that both Choate and Cole didn't get together over a cold one and lament the qb position and figure since our starter was no longer available this season that they would pick some schmuck to go out and allow himself to be embarrassed.
NOT ONE BIT WORRIED... Pretty talented at ALL positions.
Agreed. I’m sure the coaches saw the ability in TA long before Murray’s departure was certain and once we had an opening they knew that him starting was a definite possibility before camp. Otherwise they’d have him playing a position where he’ll be on the field.

I felt he’d start the whole time because the second someone else emerged as the front runner he’d have been back practicing with the backs or LBs.


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Re: Depth chart is done

Post by bobcat99 » Sun Aug 26, 2018 4:35 pm

AFCAT wrote:
Sun Aug 26, 2018 2:34 pm
bobcat99 wrote:
Sun Aug 26, 2018 1:39 pm
Cat Grad wrote:
Sun Aug 26, 2018 11:40 am
BleedingBLue wrote:
Sun Aug 26, 2018 11:14 am
Its been said 100 times this camp, Bauman is a true freshman and he very well may be the starter for years to come. But starting a freshman, true or redshirt, is not the norm.
I know! That's just plumb assed stupid to even consider doing something like that! Could you image what kind of crap Saban or Smart would get if they ever thought of starting freshmen at Alabama or Georgia???? Geezzz
Ah yes. Because we get similar talent as Bama and Georgia.
It would be absolutely crazy to start a true or red shirt freshman at MSU.

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I’m not saying that.

A redshirt freshman is fine, sometimes.

A true freshman is much more difficult.



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Re: Depth chart is done

Post by topshelfthepuck » Sun Aug 26, 2018 5:39 pm

bobcat99 wrote:
Sun Aug 26, 2018 4:35 pm
AFCAT wrote:
Sun Aug 26, 2018 2:34 pm
bobcat99 wrote:
Sun Aug 26, 2018 1:39 pm
Cat Grad wrote:
Sun Aug 26, 2018 11:40 am
BleedingBLue wrote:
Sun Aug 26, 2018 11:14 am
Its been said 100 times this camp, Bauman is a true freshman and he very well may be the starter for years to come. But starting a freshman, true or redshirt, is not the norm.
I know! That's just plumb assed stupid to even consider doing something like that! Could you image what kind of crap Saban or Smart would get if they ever thought of starting freshmen at Alabama or Georgia???? Geezzz
Ah yes. Because we get similar talent as Bama and Georgia.
It would be absolutely crazy to start a true or red shirt freshman at MSU.

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I’m not saying that.

A redshirt freshman is fine, sometimes.

A true freshman is much more difficult.
Colter stated this would happen several weeks ago, and now everyone is going crazy like there’s just no way TA can start for us. Is it perfect, doubtful. I think the coaches wanted someone with, at very least, game experience at this level, even if it wasn’t at QB. Troy won’t have major issues starting under the lights or against top tier opponents, which I think is very important to our staff. Protect the ball and minimize mistakes and let our team as a whole have a chance to succeed.

I still think we could see Tucker or Casey, but I think that won’t happen until we get in to some easier opponents where mistakes are less likely to cost us the game. It also gives them more time to develop. Our offensive system has certainly been flexible and if we change to a less likely runner at qb, we will still be running roll outs, play action and zone read, just at different frequencies.

I’m excited to see what comes together for the year and how we change and adapt going forward this season, because I think the talent is deep and only going to develop further as we move forward this year.



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Re: Depth chart is done

Post by loyalcat2000 » Sun Aug 26, 2018 5:59 pm

All Troy Andersen does is win-he’ll do the same for the cats-he has championship pedigree-I’ll put my money him and one other thing, I trust the staff-



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