QB Update

[VimSince03]

Before we dot the i's and cross the t's on Choate's firing papers (per Bobcatnation), maybe we as fans should let them actually finish their competition and play a full season first. Just a thought.

[VimSince03]

It sounds like some of you aren't #TrustingTheProcess!

[Catsrgrood]

Not going to lie, listening to the Skyline podcast didn’t exactly give me a warm fuzzy feeling about the QB’s.

With that being said, I think it’s far too early to panic and jump to conclusions, there is 4 weeks until the first game. There is time for one or both of them to get some stuff figured out and take control of the job.

With the talent on this team, the Cats don’t need an all American back there, just someone that makes the right read, doesn’t turn it over and doesn’t lose the game for them.
I still think one or both of these guys will be capable of that.

We’ll see though, sounds like there is a ways to go...

[VimSince03]

Primary reason why I'm not worried about any of this is because I 100% believe in Matt Miller. He is a laser-focused competitor and coach and understands how to attack a defense. We will be fine. Jumping to conclusions after three days of non-padded practice is a time to step back from the ledge and go have a beer or beverage of your choice.

And also, a poster earlier made a great point about the defense being talented, specifically in the secondary. Well, that's because they are and they are going to give young QB's headaches. But guess what? Both played pretty damn good yesterday so lets just let it all play out.

[iaafan]

Not going to lie, listening to the Skyline podcast didn’t exactly give me a warm fuzzy feeling about the QB’s.

With that being said, I think it’s far too early to panic and jump to conclusions, there is 4 weeks until the first game. There is time for one or both of them to get some stuff figured out and take control of the job.

With the talent on this team, the Cats don’t need an all American back there, just someone that makes the right read, doesn’t turn it over and doesn’t lose the game for them.
I still think one or both of these guys will be capable of that.

We’ll see though, sounds like there is a ways to go...

To borrow Colter’s line (see his post last night at 7:24) regarding Choate: “if you believe” Colter and Brooks, then MSU has a QB problem.

[CARDIAC_CATS]

Primary reason why I'm not worried about any of this is because I 100% believe in Matt Miller. He is a laser-focused competitor and coach and understands how to attack a defense. We will be fine. Jumping to conclusions after three days of non-padded practice is a time to step back from the ledge and go have a beer or beverage of your choice.

And also, a poster earlier made a great point about the defense being talented, specifically in the secondary. Well, that's because they are and they are going to give young QB's headaches. But guess what? Both played pretty damn good yesterday so lets just let it all play out.

Your right. It is just all these conflicting camp reports that is causing some anxiety I think. Just say ... RELAX people

[iaafan]

Primary reason why I'm not worried about any of this is because I 100% believe in Matt Miller. He is a laser-focused competitor and coach and understands how to attack a defense. We will be fine. Jumping to conclusions after three days of non-padded practice is a time to step back from the ledge and go have a beer or beverage of your choice.

And also, a poster earlier made a great point about the defense being talented, specifically in the secondary. Well, that's because they are and they are going to give young QB's headaches. But guess what? Both played pretty damn good yesterday so lets just let it all play out.

Your right. It is just all these conflicting camp reports that is causing some anxiety I think. Just say ... RELAX people

Exactly. There are numerous positive reports, but one says negative and almost everyone freaks out.

[VimSince03]

Not going to lie, listening to the Skyline podcast didn’t exactly give me a warm fuzzy feeling about the QB’s.

With that being said, I think it’s far too early to panic and jump to conclusions, there is 4 weeks until the first game. There is time for one or both of them to get some stuff figured out and take control of the job.

With the talent on this team, the Cats don’t need an all American back there, just someone that makes the right read, doesn’t turn it over and doesn’t lose the game for them.
I still think one or both of these guys will be capable of that.

We’ll see though, sounds like there is a ways to go...

To borrow Colter’s line (see his post last night at 7:24) regarding Choate: “if you believe” Colter and Brooks, then MSU has a QB problem.

Well that's the thing, I completely trust what Colter and Brooks see. And I do think there will be growing pains in the first few games, regardless of how both QB's play in practice (good and bad). But I also believe that both Tucker and Casey are talented enough to overcome and learn from their mistakes to get better. Again, we have been very spoiled by QB play at MSU up until 2016 so that's why patience is needed in this situation.

[Catsrgrood]

Primary reason why I'm not worried about any of this is because I 100% believe in Matt Miller. He is a laser-focused competitor and coach and understands how to attack a defense. We will be fine. Jumping to conclusions after three days of non-padded practice is a time to step back from the ledge and go have a beer or beverage of your choice.

And also, a poster earlier made a great point about the defense being talented, specifically in the secondary. Well, that's because they are and they are going to give young QB's headaches. But guess what? Both played pretty damn good yesterday so lets just let it all play out.

Your right. It is just all these conflicting camp reports that is causing some anxiety I think. Just say ... RELAX people

Exactly. There are numerous positive reports, but one says negative and almost everyone freaks out.

To be fair, that one negative is from a couple of very trusted and unbiased reporters that do this for a job and have been around a lot of football.
The positives have mostly been from Cat fans that will inherently have some built in bias.

but, I do not think it’s time to panic, it’s far too early for that and I do think they’ll be fine in the long run.

[St George]

I'm not worried except for injuries. Look how well we did last year with a linebacker playing quarterback. We have great coaches and time to work things out. If nothing else we will sneak D Mac out on the field.

[VimSince03]

The offense sure won the day on Sunday. Take it with a grain of salt without being full contact but you could hear Ioane chewing their ass at the end of the play it period. I don't necessarily disagree with some of the views of the Nuanez bros. but they don't see everything and seem to take a little too much pleasure ripping the MSU QB's. At the end of the day, this is on Choate. Time will tell. I am hoping for the best.

Yes, yesterday the offense took the day. Bauman was with the ones all day and Rovig with the twos. They both moved the ball down the field on each opportunity in the 11 on 11's. Both were very sharp. Yes, we will see more when they start tackling and scrimmaging. After just 3 practices, it appears the QB situation is coming along fine.

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[iaafan]

Primary reason why I'm not worried about any of this is because I 100% believe in Matt Miller. He is a laser-focused competitor and coach and understands how to attack a defense. We will be fine. Jumping to conclusions after three days of non-padded practice is a time to step back from the ledge and go have a beer or beverage of your choice.

And also, a poster earlier made a great point about the defense being talented, specifically in the secondary. Well, that's because they are and they are going to give young QB's headaches. But guess what? Both played pretty damn good yesterday so lets just let it all play out.

Your right. It is just all these conflicting camp reports that is causing some anxiety I think. Just say ... RELAX people

Exactly. There are numerous positive reports, but one says negative and almost everyone freaks out.

To be fair, that one negative is from a couple of very trusted and unbiased reporters that do this for a job and have been around a lot of football.
The positives have mostly been from Cat fans that will inherently have some built in bias.

but, I do not think it’s time to panic, it’s far too early for that and I do think they’ll be fine in the long run.

Yep, that’s fair. There are some other fair things to say. Like, Many unbiased experts are wrong. The other reports are from the Chronicle and Gazette, who are just as unbiased.

I think Colter and Brooks think they’ll be fine in the long run too.

[iaafan]

Sounds like Brooks and Colter recorded their podcast before Sunday’s practice. Colter said it sounds like Rovig turned the corner Sunday. He didn’t bash Rovig in subsequent posts as he pivoted to what Choate is saying about selecting a quarterback.

[Catsrgrood]

Sounds like Brooks and Colter recorded their podcast before Sunday’s practice. Colter said it sounds like Rovig turned the corner Sunday. He didn’t bash Rovig in subsequent posts as he pivoted to what Choate is saying about selecting a quarterback.

I believe only 30 min of yesterday’s practice was open to the media, they watched that and then did the podcast. Rovig and Bauman apparently had a good day during team drills, which was during the part of practice that was closed to media.

[wbtfg]

Let's all just take a deep breath and let the process play out. We are less than a week into fall camp. There are going to be some highs and lows during fall camp as everyone settles into the system.

[technoCat]

At this point I'm slightly concerned that Rovig hasn't just run away with it. He has had so many chances to take the reins and it just hasn't happened yet. I do think he will be dialed in and the undisputed starter by the time the season starts.

I'm not going to lie though, I wish Bauman had just blown him away in the first couple of practices. If for no other reason than to light a fire under Rovig's butt. But if he is going to be the guy at some point, it would be nice for him to have this year with this defense to learn the ropes.

[Colter_Nuanez]

So much of this is about perspective. This is my 10th consecutive year covering Bobcat camp. Montana State has had some ridiculously good quarterbacks during that time, including a few (Jake Bleskin, Quinn McQueary) who hardly played! If I had been watching Qb drills at Weber State or North Dakota, maybe the lens would be a little different.

Rovig and Bauman are developmental players. With their height and body types, they wouldn’t be in the FCS if they weren’t. When I watch them do drills, it does not come close to comparing to DeNarius McGhee or Jake Bleskin or Dakota Prukop. Tyler Bruggman couldn’t handle the heat of battle but he spun the ball in practice all the time.

The other perspective is I think Montana State is stacked otherwise. It’s strange watching truly elite players for this level on the DL, secondary, running back and receiver but have some young guys up and down at QB.

The third factor is that Choate has been wildly impressed with the defense, particularly the secondary. The QBs might be struggling because Montana State has the best pair of safeties in the Big Sky and a group of talented corners battling for time.

My biggest take on the QB situation is not necessarily the importance of finding the “perfect”’guy. I think they just need to pick a guy and empower him and give him enough confidence to not lose them games, let the rest of a stacked roster win them games instead.

[Cataholic]

Before we dot the i's and cross the t's on Choate's firing papers (per Bobcatnation), maybe we as fans should let them actually finish their competition and play a full season first. Just a thought.

Vim - You sound like me now

Seriously people, get ahold of yourselves. We are three practices in. These guys have not had live action for months. And it is regular for the offense (QB specifically) to be behind the defense in the early parts of fall camp.

[Cataholic]

So much of this is about perspective. This is my 10th consecutive year covering Bobcat camp. Montana State has had some ridiculously good quarterbacks during that time, including a few (Jake Bleskin, Quinn McQueary) who hardly played! If I had been watching Qb drills at Weber State or North Dakota, maybe the lens would be a little different.

Rovig and Bauman are developmental players. With their height and body types, they wouldn’t be in the FCS if they weren’t. When I watch them do drills, it does not come close to comparing to DeNarius McGhee or Jake Bleskin or Dakota Prukop. Tyler Bruggman couldn’t handle the heat of battle but he spun the ball in practice all the time.

The other perspective is I think Montana State is stacked otherwise. It’s strange watching truly elite players for this level on the DL, secondary, running back and receiver but have some young guys up and down at QB.

The third factor is that Choate has been wildly impressed with the defense, particularly the secondary. The QBs might be struggling because Montana State has the best pair of safeties in the Big Sky and a group of talented corners battling for time.

My biggest take on the QB situation is not necessarily the importance of finding the “perfect”’guy. I think they just need to pick a guy and empower him and give him enough confidence to not lose them games, let the rest of a stacked roster win them games instead.

And as Vim eluded to, Matt Miller is smart enough to understand each guys deficiencies. He is not going to ask Rovig to make an Elway type throw in a game, but he should be exploring those type of scenarios in practice. That is how Miller will determine what each guy is capable of and how he will build game plans.

[bobcat99]

Before we dot the i's and cross the t's on Choate's firing papers (per Bobcatnation), maybe we as fans should let them actually finish their competition and play a full season first. Just a thought.

Who wants Choate fired?