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Re: BSC games today

Post by Mtcatfan » Sun Oct 06, 2024 8:24 am

Gilman is good. I wonder if he hits the portal next year?



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Re: BSC games today

Post by MSU01 » Sun Oct 06, 2024 8:26 am

Mtcatfan wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2024 8:24 am
Gilman is good. I wonder if he hits the portal next year?
I wonder the same about Scottre Humphrey, but MSU has plenty of depth at RB to cover any potential departures.



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Re: BSC games today

Post by utucats » Sun Oct 06, 2024 8:45 am

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No. Colorado at Montana State
Weber State at Montana
UC Davis at Portland State
NAU at Idaho
Idaho State at Cal Poly
Sacramento State open
E. Washington open

I think MSU, UM, and Idaho all win by considerable margins.

Davis and ISU will both win but not as comfortably.
While you’re probably right; there’s no way I’m pulling for a Vandals or griz win. Go weebz and go Jacks!
As I wrote in my "Path to the Playoffs Post", there are huge advantages to having a Vandals and Gris win today. Cats have a poor SOS right now and there are lots of FCS teams that may end up with 0 or 1 FCS loss. We need to be able to beat highly ranked teams. I don't like a Gris win but we have to beat them at the end of the year so better they are ranked high. It is going to be a dog fight for seeds #1-#4 this year. Maybe 8-10 teams will be in the hunt.
If the Cats win out, we will be the #1 or #2 seed regardless of SOS.


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Re: BSC games today

Post by RickRund » Sun Oct 06, 2024 8:54 am

I believe on another X page there was a comment that the Weebs "parents" were taunting the griz bench.

On another several gris posters were complaining about the officiating always going against them. Heck, Weebs had double the penalties.

Then there are those that are probably speaking the truth.


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Re: BSC games today

Post by technoCat » Sun Oct 06, 2024 9:00 am

RickRund wrote:
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I believe on another X page there was a comment that the Weebs "parents" were taunting the griz bench.

On another several gris posters were complaining about the officiating always going against them. Heck, Weebs had double the penalties.

Then there are those that are probably speaking the truth.
Really?!! I mean really?!! Obviously they get jobbed by the refs from time to time but for them of all teams to complain about the refs...

Course I guess when you get preferential treatment for so long, fairly called games feel oppressive... :lol:


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Re: BSC games today

Post by Mtcatfan » Sun Oct 06, 2024 9:02 am

Was the touchdown in OT ruled correctly? That’s their biggest bitch.



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Post by SparkCat » Sun Oct 06, 2024 9:09 am

MSU01 wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2024 8:26 am
Mtcatfan wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2024 8:24 am
Gilman is good. I wonder if he hits the portal next year?
I wonder the same about Scottre Humphrey, but MSU has plenty of depth at RB to cover any potential departures.
Agreed on the depth. If either transfer I’d be surprised. Gillman would maybe have a shot at a decent FBS school, I think Ifanse possibly opened some eyes to the lack of interest in RB’s transferring up.



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Re: BSC games today

Post by BlueNGoldTilIDie » Sun Oct 06, 2024 9:15 am

Mtcatfan wrote:
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Was the touchdown in OT ruled correctly? That’s their biggest bitch.
Yes it was called correctly. Rule is if you are forced out and come back and reestablish position you can make that catch. But if he ran out on his own and came back in then it’s a penalty. But he was shoved out which in all honesty was illegal contact and should have been a penalty if we want to get nit picky. But either way the only thing in question that was not super for sure is if he did reinstate his position in the end zone before catching the ball. That was what was being reviewed and there was no good angle to tell so the ruling on the field stood.



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Re: BSC games today

Post by nanacat » Sun Oct 06, 2024 10:08 am

Mtcatfan wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2024 7:53 pm
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Any predictions on when Home for Sale signs go up in Bobby's yard? Or maybe brother Tim's? :-k
Gris really don’t have anyone left on their schedule other than UCDavis and us. And UC Davis didn’t look that great today.
I see what you're saying, as PSU gave Davis a game and probably should have won, but did anyone expect the EWU/Gris game to go like it did? If they don't rebound like last year, which so far they really haven't, it might be a long season no matter who they play. They're just not the same as last year and the "vaunted Griz defense" doesn't seem to exist this year. Teams may expose that moving forward, or should anyway.



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Re: BSC games today

Post by catatac » Sun Oct 06, 2024 12:05 pm

nanacat wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2024 10:08 am
Mtcatfan wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2024 7:53 pm
nanacat wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2024 7:47 pm
Any predictions on when Home for Sale signs go up in Bobby's yard? Or maybe brother Tim's? :-k
Gris really don’t have anyone left on their schedule other than UCDavis and us. And UC Davis didn’t look that great today.
I see what you're saying, as PSU gave Davis a game and probably should have won, but did anyone expect the EWU/Gris game to go like it did? If they don't rebound like last year, which so far they really haven't, it might be a long season no matter who they play. They're just not the same as last year and the "vaunted Griz defense" doesn't seem to exist this year. Teams may expose that moving forward, or should anyway.
Ya, I think a lot of people thought the loss at UND was their last year's NAU game (even though anyone that follows the FCS closely knew that UND is good, especially at home), and that was the wake up call... and if they're the type of Griz team that can make it back to Frisco... that run would kind of had to start right after that game. So now they drop another one... at home... to an unranked team.

So if you're a Griz fan, sorry to say it but getting back to Frisco this year looks to be a near impossibility. I would put money that they lose at least one more game before the brawl (likely NAU or UCD), and then of course I don't think they can come into Bozeman and win this year, with that defense. Last point here... even if they somehow win out from here, they'd have to go to NDSU or SDSU for semis at a minimum, and they ain't winning at either of those places.


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Re: BSC games today

Post by nanacat » Sun Oct 06, 2024 12:33 pm

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catatac wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2024 12:05 pm
nanacat wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2024 10:08 am
Mtcatfan wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2024 7:53 pm
nanacat wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2024 7:47 pm
Any predictions on when Home for Sale signs go up in Bobby's yard? Or maybe brother Tim's? :-k
Gris really don’t have anyone left on their schedule other than UCDavis and us. And UC Davis didn’t look that great today.
I see what you're saying, as PSU gave Davis a game and probably should have won, but did anyone expect the EWU/Gris game to go like it did? If they don't rebound like last year, which so far they really haven't, it might be a long season no matter who they play. They're just not the same as last year and the "vaunted Griz defense" doesn't seem to exist this year. Teams may expose that moving forward, or should anyway.
Ya, I think a lot of people thought the loss at UND was their last year's NAU game (even though anyone that follows the FCS closely knew that UND is good, especially at home), and that was the wake up call... and if they're the type of Griz team that can make it back to Frisco... that run would kind of had to start right after that game. So now they drop another one... at home... to an unranked team.

So if you're a Griz fan, sorry to say it but getting back to Frisco this year looks to be a near impossibility. I would put money that they lose at least one more game before the brawl (likely NAU or UCD), and then of course I don't think they can come into Bozeman and win this year, with that defense. Last point here... even if they somehow win out from here, they'd have to go to NDSU or SDSU for semis at a minimum, and they ain't winning at either of those places.
That's my take too. They're just not the same team.



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Re: BSC games today

Post by Cataholic » Sun Oct 06, 2024 2:04 pm

BlueNGoldTilIDie wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2024 9:15 am
Mtcatfan wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2024 9:02 am
Was the touchdown in OT ruled correctly? That’s their biggest bitch.
Yes it was called correctly. Rule is if you are forced out and come back and reestablish position you can make that catch. But if he ran out on his own and came back in then it’s a penalty. But he was shoved out which in all honesty was illegal contact and should have been a penalty if we want to get nit picky. But either way the only thing in question that was not super for sure is if he did reinstate his position in the end zone before catching the ball. That was what was being reviewed and there was no good angle to tell so the ruling on the field stood.
I don’t even understand how they could dispute the call. Looked 100% the right call.




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Re: BSC games today

Post by Prodigal Cat » Sun Oct 06, 2024 2:41 pm

utucats wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2024 8:45 am
Catprint wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2024 1:02 pm
Bobcat Sig wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2024 10:12 am
TomCat88 wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2024 5:44 am
No. Colorado at Montana State
Weber State at Montana
UC Davis at Portland State
NAU at Idaho
Idaho State at Cal Poly
Sacramento State open
E. Washington open

I think MSU, UM, and Idaho all win by considerable margins.

Davis and ISU will both win but not as comfortably.
While you’re probably right; there’s no way I’m pulling for a Vandals or griz win. Go weebz and go Jacks!
As I wrote in my "Path to the Playoffs Post", there are huge advantages to having a Vandals and Gris win today. Cats have a poor SOS right now and there are lots of FCS teams that may end up with 0 or 1 FCS loss. We need to be able to beat highly ranked teams. I don't like a Gris win but we have to beat them at the end of the year so better they are ranked high. It is going to be a dog fight for seeds #1-#4 this year. Maybe 8-10 teams will be in the hunt.
If the Cats win out, we will be the #1 or #2 seed regardless of SOS.
Yes. The Cats 100% have a top 2 seed in their complete control. 12-0 and winning the BSC is the top seed or the #2 if SDSU whips the Bison in Fargo and finishes 11-1.


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Re: BSC games today

Post by grizzh8r » Sun Oct 06, 2024 5:33 pm

Cataholic wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2024 2:04 pm
BlueNGoldTilIDie wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2024 9:15 am
Mtcatfan wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2024 9:02 am
Was the touchdown in OT ruled correctly? That’s their biggest bitch.
Yes it was called correctly. Rule is if you are forced out and come back and reestablish position you can make that catch. But if he ran out on his own and came back in then it’s a penalty. But he was shoved out which in all honesty was illegal contact and should have been a penalty if we want to get nit picky. But either way the only thing in question that was not super for sure is if he did reinstate his position in the end zone before catching the ball. That was what was being reviewed and there was no good angle to tell so the ruling on the field stood.
I don’t even understand how they could dispute the call. Looked 100% the right call.

Yep, for as much as we moan about BSC refs, they got this one right. The only way that would have been illegal touching is if he had jumped from OOB and caught the pass. However, the one foot in bounds constitutes reestablishing the player as a legal pass receiver. And before any griztards say I'm being a Bobcat homer, I will say the same thing if the exact same thing happens in Cat/gris and MSU is on the wrong side of the call. Tip your cap to the team that made the winning play.

I watched the Weber drive at the end of regulation that tied it and I was flabbergasted when Weber made the kick. How many times in similar situations have we seen th gris luck out and the guy misses the kick, the snap gets muffed, the kick is blocked, or it doinks off the upright. Huge props to Weber's staff and players, those types of shootout games are not often won by th e team visiting WGS...


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Post by lutecat » Sun Oct 06, 2024 6:35 pm

So here's my take.

In years past their O may start slow but the D usually keeps them in game. I found myself watching the Missouri game thinking if the other coach had better play calling they would've won because the griz weren't stopping the run. They always have been solid against the run.

They have ton of transfers. Like over 12 or 15? And someone did a review of them on egriz and like 3 have had solid contributions. Plus the fact that they even needed that many transfers says something about where they are talentwise. They really haven't had guys go up in the portal. So they just don't have alot of D talent right now. Andrew Schmit has some good thoughts on. Twitter.

Last year they started slow and ended where they did. But they weren't giving up 104 points in 2 games during the slow start. Their D was holding teams down in scoring but the O couldn't score much. Now the O scores and the D can't stop anyone.

All in all you have to love it! So excited for the Brawl and to hang a new record for points allowed by them on D!



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Post by Monymony » Sun Oct 06, 2024 6:43 pm

Mtcatfan wrote:
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Gilman is good. I wonder if he hits the portal next year?
His brother got recruited last year for that reason. I know him off the field and there is a VERY small chance that he transfers. Also the 4th string is a kid from Hawaii and he is going to be a dawg next year.



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Re: BSC games today

Post by RickRund » Sun Oct 06, 2024 7:51 pm

lutecat wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2024 6:35 pm
So here's my take.

In years past their O may start slow but the D usually keeps them in game. I found myself watching the Missouri game thinking if the other coach had better play calling they would've won because the griz weren't stopping the run. They always have been solid against the run.

They have ton of transfers. Like over 12 or 15? And someone did a review of them on egriz and like 3 have had solid contributions. Plus the fact that they even needed that many transfers says something about where they are talentwise. They really haven't had guys go up in the portal. So they just don't have alot of D talent right now. Andrew Schmit has some good thoughts on. Twitter.

Last year they started slow and ended where they did. But they weren't giving up 104 points in 2 games during the slow start. Their D was holding teams down in scoring but the O couldn't score much. Now the O scores and the D can't stop anyone.

All in all you have to love it! So excited for the Brawl and to hang a new record for points allowed by them on D!
Maybe I am reading too much into this, but are they having issues noticing (reading) good talent? Or developing that talent? That many from the portal and not much help. Or deeper issues? The next couple of games will answer some questions.

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Post by tetoncat » Sun Oct 06, 2024 8:41 pm

lutecat wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2024 6:35 pm
So here's my take.

In years past their O may start slow but the D usually keeps them in game. I found myself watching the Missouri game thinking if the other coach had better play calling they would've won because the griz weren't stopping the run. They always have been solid against the run.

They have ton of transfers. Like over 12 or 15? And someone did a review of them on egriz and like 3 have had solid contributions. Plus the fact that they even needed that many transfers says something about where they are talentwise. They really haven't had guys go up in the portal. So they just don't have alot of D talent right now. Andrew Schmit has some good thoughts on. Twitter.

Last year they started slow and ended where they did. But they weren't giving up 104 points in 2 games during the slow start. Their D was holding teams down in scoring but the O couldn't score much. Now the O scores and the D can't stop anyone.

All in all you have to love it! So excited for the Brawl and to hang a new record for points allowed by them on D!
Their D was good early and lights out late last year. One change at QB on O and great ST and they took off. I don't think 1 change can fix their D.


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Re: BSC games today

Post by tetoncat » Sun Oct 06, 2024 8:43 pm

grizzh8r wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2024 5:33 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2024 2:04 pm
BlueNGoldTilIDie wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2024 9:15 am
Mtcatfan wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2024 9:02 am
Was the touchdown in OT ruled correctly? That’s their biggest bitch.
Yes it was called correctly. Rule is if you are forced out and come back and reestablish position you can make that catch. But if he ran out on his own and came back in then it’s a penalty. But he was shoved out which in all honesty was illegal contact and should have been a penalty if we want to get nit picky. But either way the only thing in question that was not super for sure is if he did reinstate his position in the end zone before catching the ball. That was what was being reviewed and there was no good angle to tell so the ruling on the field stood.
I don’t even understand how they could dispute the call. Looked 100% the right call.

Yep, for as much as we moan about BSC refs, they got this one right. The only way that would have been illegal touching is if he had jumped from OOB and caught the pass. However, the one foot in bounds constitutes reestablishing the player as a legal pass receiver. And before any griztards say I'm being a Bobcat homer, I will say the same thing if the exact same thing happens in Cat/gris and MSU is on the wrong side of the call. Tip your cap to the team that made the winning play.

I watched the Weber drive at the end of regulation that tied it and I was flabbergasted when Weber made the kick. How many times in similar situations have we seen th gris luck out and the guy misses the kick, the snap gets muffed, the kick is blocked, or it doinks off the upright. Huge props to Weber's staff and players, those types of shootout games are not often won by th e team visiting WGS...
If call was reversed, Weber kicks FG and still win with fumble on first playby Griz.


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