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Post by MSU01 » Mon Sep 23, 2024 10:00 am

The CBS article linked above made a lot of sense right up until the end when the writer proposed a new Mountain West conference with Montana but not Montana State. He may have just been looking for 10 teams though and didn't realize that MSU or UM can't move up without the other coming too.



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Post by onceacat » Mon Sep 23, 2024 1:13 pm

Is Hawai'i going to travel 5 time zones to play the 6 teams in Conf USA (or the AAC). A one-stop flight to Jacksonville or Lynchburg is 12+ hours.

I mean, I know that a couple West Coast teams have joined east coast conferences, but those deals come with A LOT of money.

Stranger things have happened in the course of conference realignment, but it seems hard to believe there won't ultimately be 2 Rocky Mountain/Pacific Coast based conferences without the Power 4 sums of money involved.



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Post by Danster21 » Mon Sep 23, 2024 1:20 pm

Holy shoot, they only offered to cover 2.5M of the exit fees, exactly 10%. Not to mention the travel costs that’d spike for all of them.



And in less-applicable but still noteworthy news, Gonzaga to the PAC, all sports (except football ofc, as they don’t sponsor it)



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Post by BleedingBLue » Mon Sep 23, 2024 2:01 pm

Have to imagine UNLV and Utah State, maybe Nevada are the next choices for the Pac 6-12. Possibly San Jose State, but not too sure about that one. No desirable teams for the MWC with teams from the AAC clearing wanting to stay. So does the MWC try to add UNM, UTEP and the top FCS schools? Does the MWC and C-USA become one?



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Post by MSU01 » Mon Sep 23, 2024 2:31 pm

After the last couple years it's somewhat jarring to see schools decide to...actually stay where they are! In non-football related news...Gonzaga:

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BleedingBLue wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2024 2:01 pm
Have to imagine UNLV and Utah State, maybe Nevada are the next choices for the Pac 6-12. Possibly San Jose State, but not too sure about that one. No desirable teams for the MWC with teams from the AAC clearing wanting to stay. So does the MWC try to add UNM, UTEP and the top FCS schools? Does the MWC and C-USA become one?
They may be SoL if they want another MWC team.




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Post by MSU01 » Mon Sep 23, 2024 2:43 pm

Danster21 wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2024 2:33 pm
BleedingBLue wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2024 2:01 pm
Have to imagine UNLV and Utah State, maybe Nevada are the next choices for the Pac 6-12. Possibly San Jose State, but not too sure about that one. No desirable teams for the MWC with teams from the AAC clearing wanting to stay. So does the MWC try to add UNM, UTEP and the top FCS schools? Does the MWC and C-USA become one?
They may be SoL if they want another MWC team.

Idaho, Montana, and Montana State to the Pac-12 confirmed! Two of those three were once in that conference, at least... :lol:



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Post by coloradocat » Mon Sep 23, 2024 3:00 pm

I feel kind of bad for OSU and WSU but I think it would be kind of hilarious if the 6-Pac couldn't entice any more teams to join them. At some point all this movement needs to have a downside for the movers.


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Post by Danster21 » Mon Sep 23, 2024 3:04 pm

Yeah they probably go for 2 texas teams like UTEP and TxSt. The FCS schools wouldn’t be eligible for the postseason for 2025 and 2026 if they moved up, and the Pac needs 2 more teams for the 2026 season. Their waiver only lasts them this year and next. They have to find 2 FBS teams and with the MWC working to shore up their Grant of Rights it’s gonna be a pressure cooker in the Pac12 offices tonight.

I’d say it’s 90% likely we see some significant realignment news tonight.



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Post by BleedingBLue » Mon Sep 23, 2024 3:11 pm

Danster21 wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2024 2:33 pm
BleedingBLue wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2024 2:01 pm
Have to imagine UNLV and Utah State, maybe Nevada are the next choices for the Pac 6-12. Possibly San Jose State, but not too sure about that one. No desirable teams for the MWC with teams from the AAC clearing wanting to stay. So does the MWC try to add UNM, UTEP and the top FCS schools? Does the MWC and C-USA become one?
They may be SoL if they want another MWC team.

Doesn't necessarily mean they will all re-up though. If you could get 5-10 million more per year in TV revenue and the Pac 6-12 pays your exit fee, why wouldn't you do it? Especially schools like UNLV, UNR, and USU who would benefit for basketball as well.



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Post by cats2506 » Mon Sep 23, 2024 3:19 pm

BleedingBLue wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2024 3:11 pm
Danster21 wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2024 2:33 pm
BleedingBLue wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2024 2:01 pm
Have to imagine UNLV and Utah State, maybe Nevada are the next choices for the Pac 6-12. Possibly San Jose State, but not too sure about that one. No desirable teams for the MWC with teams from the AAC clearing wanting to stay. So does the MWC try to add UNM, UTEP and the top FCS schools? Does the MWC and C-USA become one?
They may be SoL if they want another MWC team.

Doesn't necessarily mean they will all re-up though. If you could get 5-10 million more per year in TV revenue and the Pac 6-12 pays your exit fee, why wouldn't you do it? Especially schools like UNLV, UNR, and USU who would benefit for basketball as well.
Exit fee is something like 25 million, Pac is only offering 2.5 million to offset it.


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Post by BleedingBLue » Mon Sep 23, 2024 4:45 pm

cats2506 wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2024 3:19 pm
BleedingBLue wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2024 3:11 pm
Danster21 wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2024 2:33 pm
BleedingBLue wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2024 2:01 pm
Have to imagine UNLV and Utah State, maybe Nevada are the next choices for the Pac 6-12. Possibly San Jose State, but not too sure about that one. No desirable teams for the MWC with teams from the AAC clearing wanting to stay. So does the MWC try to add UNM, UTEP and the top FCS schools? Does the MWC and C-USA become one?
They may be SoL if they want another MWC team.

Doesn't necessarily mean they will all re-up though. If you could get 5-10 million more per year in TV revenue and the Pac 6-12 pays your exit fee, why wouldn't you do it? Especially schools like UNLV, UNR, and USU who would benefit for basketball as well.
Exit fee is something like 25 million, Pac is only offering 2.5 million to offset it.
It's 18 million from the MWC I thought I read last week. The Pac is paying that for the 4 MWC already coming over. Seems kind of odd they didn't pony up for schools they really want. I figured they may do it to entice a few more MWC schools since plan A fell through.



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Post by Bobcat Sig » Mon Sep 23, 2024 4:48 pm

Memphis, et al, were a reach for the PAC. Memphis only kinda made sense. I guess maybe Tulane? I dunno. UTSA could make a case, but they don't have near the history that someone like Memphis and Tulane possess.

Can we have the G5 break away already, and have their own championship already? It would make this all a lot easier...


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Post by Cataholic » Mon Sep 23, 2024 4:54 pm

cats2506 wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2024 3:19 pm
BleedingBLue wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2024 3:11 pm
Danster21 wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2024 2:33 pm
BleedingBLue wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2024 2:01 pm
Have to imagine UNLV and Utah State, maybe Nevada are the next choices for the Pac 6-12. Possibly San Jose State, but not too sure about that one. No desirable teams for the MWC with teams from the AAC clearing wanting to stay. So does the MWC try to add UNM, UTEP and the top FCS schools? Does the MWC and C-USA become one?
They may be SoL if they want another MWC team.

Doesn't necessarily mean they will all re-up though. If you could get 5-10 million more per year in TV revenue and the Pac 6-12 pays your exit fee, why wouldn't you do it? Especially schools like UNLV, UNR, and USU who would benefit for basketball as well.
Exit fee is something like 25 million, Pac is only offering 2.5 million to offset it.
Exit fee for the Mountain West is $18 million. And the MW is working hard to keep their members by paying out money to keep them. Interesting strategy that could keep the conference alive.

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Post by Cataholic » Mon Sep 23, 2024 4:58 pm

Bobcat Sig wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2024 4:48 pm
Memphis, et al, were a reach for the PAC. Memphis only kinda made sense. I guess maybe Tulane? I dunno. UTSA could make a case, but they don't have near the history that someone like Memphis and Tulane possess.

Can we have the G5 break away already, and have their own championship already? It would make this all a lot easier...
Terrible decisions by the PAC again. A serious WTF decision. Adding those schools to the conference make them look like a G5 conference. Not what I would call prestigious schools.



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Post by MSU01 » Mon Sep 23, 2024 5:07 pm

Cataholic wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2024 4:58 pm
Bobcat Sig wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2024 4:48 pm
Memphis, et al, were a reach for the PAC. Memphis only kinda made sense. I guess maybe Tulane? I dunno. UTSA could make a case, but they don't have near the history that someone like Memphis and Tulane possess.

Can we have the G5 break away already, and have their own championship already? It would make this all a lot easier...
Terrible decisions by the PAC again. A serious WTF decision. Adding those schools to the conference make them look like a G5 conference. Not what I would call prestigious schools.
But what "prestigious" schools are even left for them to go after that aren't already in a P4 conference? Even Stanford and Cal couldn't be enticed to stick around and were apparently fine traveling to places like Syracuse and Tallahassee to play their conference road games.

I bet Boise State, CSU, Fresno, and San Diego State are a little nervous right now watching the line that was forming behind them to also join the Pac-12 get smaller and smaller and smaller with each passing day.



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