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Re: Depth chart is done

Post by 91catAlum » Sat Aug 25, 2018 2:10 pm

Very glad to see Tyrel Thomas starting! Wasn't sure how bad his ankle twist was in the scrimmage.


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Re: Depth chart is done

Post by bobcat99 » Sat Aug 25, 2018 2:31 pm

Cozzie starting is surprising.

I don’t think he’s fast enough.




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Post by VimSince03 » Sat Aug 25, 2018 2:42 pm

bobcat99 wrote:
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Cozzie starting is surprising.

I don’t think he’s fast enough.
He won't be in coverage as much as the Sam. Walker had a good camp. However, both he and Tadan will play a lot.


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Re: Depth chart is done

Post by codecat » Sat Aug 25, 2018 3:11 pm

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Sat Aug 25, 2018 1:32 pm
James Williams on the 2 deep, love it. Is that correct or a typo...... up to 325.... beast! 😳

2 true freshman in the mix at RB- sumner and ifanse. These guys are both going to have huge careers, me thinks.

Is kanow hurt? He would have been starting or at least in the 2 deep, right?

OL averages about 6’4” 295lbs. This group is going to be a handful for years to come.

Excited to see Willie P return punts, I think he can do some damage there!

Can’t wait for Thursday!!!!
I was just noticing for the first time, both sides of the line are what i call Heavies (i.e. 295 lbs+). Choate said in yesterday's press conference that teams will continue to defend us they way they have every game the past 2 seasons and we still got 250 ypg on the ground least year. Edit: This is the first time in a while that I've seen our OL be able to dictate the ground game that we want to play.
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Re: Depth chart is done

Post by codecat » Sat Aug 25, 2018 3:15 pm

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Sat Aug 25, 2018 1:39 pm
About what I and most of us thought.

Observations:
- We are still young - 5 seniors starting total - 3 on the d-line
- LB isn't as deep as I thought it would be at the end of spring. Losses of Hill, Collins (for now), and Kanow for injuries is a tough break. Gilman had a great fall camp from what I've heard so that is encouraging.
- I believe come later in the year, Maleek Barkley and Ifanse will be our main ball carriers. I believe we will see more of Tullis as this year goes on as well

- Both our offensive and defensive lines have to be in the top 2-3 in the conference
I've been noticing this since a week or two into camp - add-in Chapman still 'nursing' injuries and that is like 4 would be starter! If i remember correctly, Choate said at some point that they had to be smart managing Kanow, Collins, and Chapman in order to try to keep them healthy for the season.


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Re: Depth chart is done

Post by Common Cat » Sat Aug 25, 2018 3:30 pm

I’m pretty sure Jack Rolovich, Cory Carpenter, and Kody Kempt would be a 1a in this lineup. Am I the only one who is frustrated that we seemingly have made little progress at the qb position since Choate arrived? I hope To be proven wrong.


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Re: Depth chart is done

Post by gtapp » Sat Aug 25, 2018 5:31 pm

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1.)We start 3 OL that are Soph or younger and another freshman is nipping at their heels to play. Next couple of years are gonna be AWESOME.

2.) Every SINGLE slot on the two deep at LB is a Montana boy, I see you Walker Cozzie.

3.) Alleyne at KOR?!

4.) Holding Grant Collins out?
5) Big Bacon
I was not expecting him on the 2 deep even when healthy. I expect he will be used a few plays per game on short yardage plays.


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Re: Depth chart is done

Post by Anacomando » Sat Aug 25, 2018 5:39 pm

Common Cat wrote:
Sat Aug 25, 2018 3:30 pm
I’m pretty sure Jack Rolovich, Cory Carpenter, and Kody Kempt would be a 1a in this lineup. Am I the only one who is frustrated that we seemingly have made little progress at the qb position since Choate arrived? I hope To be proven wrong.
My thoughts on a former RB/LB starting the next year at QB: where in the hell have you ever seen that happen in a Division 1 football program? Never. It never happens for a reason. I'm sorry, but unless the Cats go option, I cannot see it being successful in a whole season and to think otherwise is to be delusional or that Andersen is a Golden God! Maybe he is, but ask me in late October but I don't think this will work....



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Post by codecat » Sat Aug 25, 2018 6:05 pm

Anacomando wrote:
Sat Aug 25, 2018 5:39 pm
Common Cat wrote:
Sat Aug 25, 2018 3:30 pm
I’m pretty sure Jack Rolovich, Cory Carpenter, and Kody Kempt would be a 1a in this lineup. Am I the only one who is frustrated that we seemingly have made little progress at the qb position since Choate arrived? I hope To be proven wrong.
My thoughts on a former RB/LB starting the next year at QB: where in the hell have you ever seen that happen in a Division 1 football program? Never. It never happens for a reason. I'm sorry, but unless the Cats go option, I cannot see it being successful in a whole season and to think otherwise is to be delusional or that Andersen is a Golden God! Maybe he is, but ask me in late October but I don't think this will work....
I'm one of those that would have preferred that Troy was still playing LB, but I am thinking that the coaches do plan to run a lot of option ball this year, both the triple-option as well as the read-option/zone-read. In that scenario, it makes perfect sense, in that scenario, that Troy or Travis would be chosen as the as the starters. We also have an offensive line that should allow running between the tackes quite a bit too.


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Post by catatac » Sat Aug 25, 2018 6:25 pm

Yes, exactly. We do run the option, and yes, TA is a freak of nature. It can and will work, and this season is going to be something fun to watch. No, I'm not that guys predicting an undefeated season all the way to the chipper, but we are going to be a damn tough team for anyone to play.


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Re: Depth chart is done

Post by Montanabob » Sat Aug 25, 2018 7:05 pm

Anacomando wrote:
Sat Aug 25, 2018 5:39 pm
Common Cat wrote:
Sat Aug 25, 2018 3:30 pm
I’m pretty sure Jack Rolovich, Cory Carpenter, and Kody Kempt would be a 1a in this lineup. Am I the only one who is frustrated that we seemingly have made little progress at the qb position since Choate arrived? I hope To be proven wrong.
My thoughts on a former RB/LB starting the next year at QB: where in the hell have you ever seen that happen in a Division 1 football program? Never. It never happens for a reason. I'm sorry, but unless the Cats go option, I cannot see it being successful in a whole season and to think otherwise is to be delusional or that Andersen is a Golden God! Maybe he is, but ask me in late October but I don't think this will work....
TA will pass for 100-200 yards a game and we run for 250+ every game. Not worried about QB with Jonsen in the field at same time to mess with the defense.


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Post by mslacatfan » Sat Aug 25, 2018 7:05 pm

Anacomando wrote:
Sat Aug 25, 2018 5:39 pm
Common Cat wrote:
Sat Aug 25, 2018 3:30 pm
I’m pretty sure Jack Rolovich, Cory Carpenter, and Kody Kempt would be a 1a in this lineup. Am I the only one who is frustrated that we seemingly have made little progress at the qb position since Choate arrived? I hope To be proven wrong.
My thoughts on a former RB/LB starting the next year at QB: where in the hell have you ever seen that happen in a Division 1 football program? Never. It never happens for a reason. I'm sorry, but unless the Cats go option, I cannot see it being successful in a whole season and to think otherwise is to be delusional or that Andersen is a Golden God! Maybe he is, but ask me in late October but I don't think this will work....
It’s hard to argue with that statement....... I’m gonna remain optimistic though. First game should give us a pretty good idea of what to expect this season.

I’m a little nervous about the LB group. At first we thought they were so deep, but there seems to be a decent amount of injuries. The josh hill loss is probably a lot bigger then anyone has really been talking about, hope he can make it back before the season is over...


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Re: Depth chart is done

Post by TomCat88 » Sun Aug 26, 2018 2:55 am

Anacomando wrote:
Sat Aug 25, 2018 5:39 pm
Common Cat wrote:
Sat Aug 25, 2018 3:30 pm
I’m pretty sure Jack Rolovich, Cory Carpenter, and Kody Kempt would be a 1a in this lineup. Am I the only one who is frustrated that we seemingly have made little progress at the qb position since Choate arrived? I hope To be proven wrong.
My thoughts on a former RB/LB starting the next year at QB: where in the hell have you ever seen that happen in a Division 1 football program? Never. It never happens for a reason. I'm sorry, but unless the Cats go option, I cannot see it being successful in a whole season and to think otherwise is to be delusional or that Andersen is a Golden God! Maybe he is, but ask me in late October but I don't think this will work....
MSU will do well to win 2-3 games this year tbh. I’m surprised Choate didn’t re-vamp the whole offense around Bauman. He’s the only legit QB in the group. LB is ugly. If you’re only as strong as your weakest link, then the D is in rough shape.


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Re: Depth chart is done

Post by gtapp » Sun Aug 26, 2018 7:49 am

TomCat88 wrote:
Sun Aug 26, 2018 2:55 am
Anacomando wrote:
Sat Aug 25, 2018 5:39 pm
Common Cat wrote:
Sat Aug 25, 2018 3:30 pm
I’m pretty sure Jack Rolovich, Cory Carpenter, and Kody Kempt would be a 1a in this lineup. Am I the only one who is frustrated that we seemingly have made little progress at the qb position since Choate arrived? I hope To be proven wrong.
My thoughts on a former RB/LB starting the next year at QB: where in the hell have you ever seen that happen in a Division 1 football program? Never. It never happens for a reason. I'm sorry, but unless the Cats go option, I cannot see it being successful in a whole season and to think otherwise is to be delusional or that Andersen is a Golden God! Maybe he is, but ask me in late October but I don't think this will work....
MSU will do well to win 2-3 games this year tbh. I’m surprised Choate didn’t re-vamp the whole offense around Bauman. He’s the only legit QB in the group. LB is ugly. If you’re only as strong as your weakest link, then the D is in rough shape.
1) I remember the Cat/griz game in Missoula in 1978. We were heavy favorites. The Griz put Rocky Klever (a TE) at QB and ran the wildcat all game and beat us badly. You can win at this level with a QB like Troy. 2) Bauman may be the started by year end but may need more seasoning which is smart. Don't rush him in till he is ready to help maintain his confidence. 3) The only injured LB that is out for an extended period (as far as I know) Is HIll and we are deep so we will be fine at LB unless we get more injuries and/or the existing injuries become a lingering problem.


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Re: Depth chart is done

Post by DriscollCat » Sun Aug 26, 2018 8:33 am

As much of a golden god as Troy is, it just can’t be a good thing that none of your qbs wins your qb battle against the RB/LB. If nothing else, it takes away a top contender at RB or LB.

On top of that, The BSC is loaded with top QB talent.

All that being said, we haven’t struggled to put together 2 wins each of the past 2 years. And while we don’t have the most elusive player in the BSC in the backfield anymore, we are better built to play our brand of football (control LOS/ball/clock) than we have been in the past two years. As coach said, everyone is going to game plan for us the same way, just like they have for the past couple of years. If we can control the LOS, and it sounds like we are better prepared for that this year than in the past two, we should be able to win at least half our games.

If we win no more than 2 games in year 3, it’s time to re-evaluate our coaching situation.



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Re: Depth chart is done

Post by Helcat72 » Sun Aug 26, 2018 9:14 am

TomCat88 wrote:
Sun Aug 26, 2018 2:55 am
Anacomando wrote:
Sat Aug 25, 2018 5:39 pm
Common Cat wrote:
Sat Aug 25, 2018 3:30 pm
I’m pretty sure Jack Rolovich, Cory Carpenter, and Kody Kempt would be a 1a in this lineup. Am I the only one who is frustrated that we seemingly have made little progress at the qb position since Choate arrived? I hope To be proven wrong.
My thoughts on a former RB/LB starting the next year at QB: where in the hell have you ever seen that happen in a Division 1 football program? Never. It never happens for a reason. I'm sorry, but unless the Cats go option, I cannot see it being successful in a whole season and to think otherwise is to be delusional or that Andersen is a Golden God! Maybe he is, but ask me in late October but I don't think this will work....
MSU will do well to win 2-3 games this year tbh. I’m surprised Choate didn’t re-vamp the whole offense around Bauman. He’s the only legit QB in the group. LB is ugly. If you’re only as strong as your weakest link, then the D is in rough shape.
Yea, I agree Tom, if we can't sustain a drive on offense with a great passing attack, the defense is bound to fall apart by the second half. :-$ :roll:
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Re: Depth chart is done

Post by bobcat99 » Sun Aug 26, 2018 10:01 am

Pretty sure Tom isn’t being serious, but continue on guys.

Take a look at what he’s been saying all summer.



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Re: Depth chart is done

Post by Montanabob » Sun Aug 26, 2018 10:48 am

DriscollCat wrote:
Sun Aug 26, 2018 8:33 am
As much of a golden god as Troy is, it just can’t be a good thing that none of your qbs wins your qb battle against the RB/LB. If nothing else, it takes away a top contender at RB or LB.

On top of that, The BSC is loaded with top QB talent.

All that being said, we haven’t struggled to put together 2 wins each of the past 2 years. And while we don’t have the most elusive player in the BSC in the backfield anymore, we are better built to play our brand of football (control LOS/ball/clock) than we have been in the past two years. As coach said, everyone is going to game plan for us the same way, just like they have for the past couple of years. If we can control the LOS, and it sounds like we are better prepared for that this year than in the past two, we should be able to win at least half our games.

If we win no more than 2 games in year 3, it’s time to re-evaluate our coaching situation.
I seem to remember a kid in North Dakota that didn't get many DI scholarship offers so went to NDSU... Carson wentz Didn't start until junior year ... TA will do fine. I'd bet he is honorable mention for all BSC QB and in the running for offensive player of the year.


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Re: Depth chart is done

Post by BleedingBLue » Sun Aug 26, 2018 11:14 am

Its been said 100 times this camp, Bauman is a true freshman and he very well may be the starter for years to come. But starting a freshman, true or redshirt, is not the norm.



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