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[tailbone]

Hey Griz posters......

Yes we did play poorly, and still beat a team that ran up 500 yards on your fantastic defense. I can hardly wait to watch Lulay shread your defense. Don't forget.........Lulay owns you guys! Your new quaterback had a great game against ISU, but remember......He's no Lulay!

Reread this whole thread.

A smart man learns from his mistakes.
A wise man learns from the mistakes of others.
Morons just don't learn.
Moron.

I'd try to explain the folly of your comments....but you're a moron.

Please explain the folly of ones comments Mr. Nietzsche.......

This is a thread on sports and many people prognosticate. Again I'll ask, where were you all of last week? Cat fans were bold enough to make a bunch of predictions despite almost eating crow.

Definitions of folly:

-the trait of acting stupidly or rashly
-the quality of being rash and foolish

Having "set oneself up" for ridicule by making predictions based on such faulty reasoning as comparative performance, and thus being subject to that ridicule is in itself bad enough.....but to persist in using the same faulty reasoning in response is folly.

.......I can hardly wait to watch Lulay shread your defense. Don't forget.........Lulay owns you guys! ......

......is an invitation for Griz fans to return and "rub salt in the wound" should Lulay's heroics prove insufficient to provide a win in November.

You'll not see me making a case for superiority based on a 3TD victory at ISU, despite your 2pt home victory over the same Bengals, nor will I make ridiculous prognostications on that basis.

FWIW: It should be obvious that those 500 yds did not prevent a Griz win, and though last years defense was statistically suspect - it didn't prevent a trip to Chatty. The only meaningful statistic is the score of the game just played and how it impacts conference standings.

It shouldn't require an engineering degree from MSU to figure that out.

[MSUcantouchus]

There are more and more griz fans over here everyday. That has to mean something. They are starting to have to defend themselves as the better team in Montana.

What that says to me is that in their minds doubt has crept in and part of them is starting to think the cats may be better.

[Catz Rock]

Hey Griz posters......

Yes we did play poorly, and still beat a team that ran up 500 yards on your fantastic defense. I can hardly wait to watch Lulay shread your defense. Don't forget.........Lulay owns you guys! Your new quaterback had a great game against ISU, but remember......He's no Lulay!

Reread this whole thread.

A smart man learns from his mistakes.
A wise man learns from the mistakes of others.
Morons just don't learn.
Moron.

I'd try to explain the folly of your comments....but you're a moron.

Please explain the folly of ones comments Mr. Nietzsche.......

This is a thread on sports and many people prognosticate. Again I'll ask, where were you all of last week? Cat fans were bold enough to make a bunch of predictions despite almost eating crow.

Definitions of folly:

-the trait of acting stupidly or rashly
-the quality of being rash and foolish

Having "set oneself up" for ridicule by making predictions based on such faulty reasoning as comparative performance, and thus being subject to that ridicule is in itself bad enough.....but to persist in using the same faulty reasoning in response is folly.

.......I can hardly wait to watch Lulay shread your defense. Don't forget.........Lulay owns you guys! ......

......is an invitation for Griz fans to return and "rub salt in the wound" should Lulay's heroics prove insufficient to provide a win in November.

You'll not see me making a case for superiority based on a 3TD victory at ISU, despite your 2pt home victory over the same Bengals, nor will I make ridiculous prognostications on that basis.

FWIW: It should be obvious that those 500 yds did not prevent a Griz win, and though last years defense was statistically suspect - it didn't prevent a trip to Chatty. The only meaningful statistic is the score of the game just played and how it impacts conference standings.

It shouldn't require an engineering degree from MSU to figure that out.

I guess you don't like the truth......."Lulay owns you guys" The truth hurts doesn't it Go back to your gwizzle board you moron

[Platinumcat]

Celtic cat I have noticed the same thing. We made a prediction, turns out we were wrong. But, again, this is a Bobcat fan website. We are going to have conversations that express our love for the Bobcats and our dislike of the Griz. We are going to discuss upcoming games. We are going to talk of the possibility of making the playoffs, championship game, winning it all; that's what fans do when they feel they are cheering for a good team.

I joined egriz a few months back and checked in a dozen times or so. But, I couldn't stand the attitudes from the Griz fans. So, did I start making childish remarks or make them eat crow on wrong predictions? No, I left the site never to return. You have your site. Go back to it and tell each other how great the Griz are and how bad the 'Cats are. We'll stay here and do the opposite.

If you (griz fans)stay and post on this site, do so with respect!

[tailbone]

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I guess you don't like the truth......."Lulay owns you guys" The truth hurts doesn't it Go back to your gwizzle board you moron

Weak.

The point is:

If you don't provide ammunition, no one will take shots at you.

[grizbeer]

I guess you don't like the truth......."Lulay owns you guys" The truth hurts doesn't it Go back to your gwizzle board you moron

I have never really understood why Cat fans think Lulay "Owns" the Griz. He is a good player and was the QB when the Cat's broke the streak, but look at Lulay's performance over the 3 games he has played:

2002 10-7 Cat's win. Lulay throws for 154 yards, and rushes for net 25 yards. Solid, but not spectacular. Absolutely give credit to the Cat's D, and Lulay was solid, but I would credit your defense, not Lulay for this win.

2003 27-20 Cat's win. Lulay throws for 64 yards, and rushes for net 27 yards, Cat O scores 14 points (special teams scores 6, Cat's D scores 7). Not really a good performance, but Cat special teams and D win the game again.

2004 38-22 Griz win. Lulay throws for 386 yards, and rushes for net 1 yard. Great stats, but in a losing performance that wasn't nearly as close as the score indicates.

it seems an insult to your defense to give Lulay credit for the wins in 2002 and 2003, but if you do the best you could say is Lulay was renting-to-own, and in 2004 the Griz re-possessed.

[info197176]

[Bleedinbluengold]

There are more and more griz fans over here everyday. That has to mean something. They are starting to have to defend themselves as the better team in Montana.

What that says to me is that in their minds doubt has crept in and part of them is starting to think the cats may be better.

OR, that we all have too much discretionary time on our hands!

[Catz Rock]

I guess you don't like the truth......."Lulay owns you guys" The truth hurts doesn't it Go back to your gwizzle board you moron

I have never really understood why Cat fans think Lulay "Owns" the Griz. He is a good player and was the QB when the Cat's broke the streak, but look at Lulay's performance over the 3 games he has played:

2002 10-7 Cat's win. Lulay throws for 154 yards, and rushes for net 25 yards. Solid, but not spectacular. Absolutely give credit to the Cat's D, and Lulay was solid, but I would credit your defense, not Lulay for this win.

2003 27-20 Cat's win. Lulay throws for 64 yards, and rushes for net 27 yards, Cat O scores 14 points (special teams scores 6, Cat's D scores 7). Not really a good performance, but Cat special teams and D win the game again.

2004 38-22 Griz win. Lulay throws for 386 yards, and rushes for net 1 yard. Great stats, but in a losing performance that wasn't nearly as close as the score indicates.

it seems an insult to your defense to give Lulay credit for the wins in 2002 and 2003, but if you do the best you could say is Lulay was renting-to-own, and in 2004 the Griz re-possessed.

Grizbeer.....A simple YES or NO, would you trade CB for Travis Lulay? YES or NO?

[grizbeer]

I guess you don't like the truth......."Lulay owns you guys" The truth hurts doesn't it Go back to your gwizzle board you moron

I have never really understood why Cat fans think Lulay "Owns" the Griz. He is a good player and was the QB when the Cat's broke the streak, but look at Lulay's performance over the 3 games he has played:

2002 10-7 Cat's win. Lulay throws for 154 yards, and rushes for net 25 yards. Solid, but not spectacular. Absolutely give credit to the Cat's D, and Lulay was solid, but I would credit your defense, not Lulay for this win.

2003 27-20 Cat's win. Lulay throws for 64 yards, and rushes for net 27 yards, Cat O scores 14 points (special teams scores 6, Cat's D scores 7). Not really a good performance, but Cat special teams and D win the game again.

2004 38-22 Griz win. Lulay throws for 386 yards, and rushes for net 1 yard. Great stats, but in a losing performance that wasn't nearly as close as the score indicates.

it seems an insult to your defense to give Lulay credit for the wins in 2002 and 2003, but if you do the best you could say is Lulay was renting-to-own, and in 2004 the Griz re-possessed.

Grizbeer.....A simple YES or NO, would you trade CB for Travis Lulay? YES or NO?

Good Question - give up Cole for 4 years to have TL for the rest of this season, No, too much to give up. Cole's entire career vs TL entire career, maybe, probably, but since we have seen TL's entire career it is only fair to also see Cole's entire career, not just 1 game.

Keep in mind I never said TL wasn't a very good QB - I just pointed out that against the Griz, the games the Cat's won were more due to the Cat's defense than TL, where as the game TL had good stats the Griz crushed the Cat's. That hardly seems the trademark of someone who "owns" the Griz.

let me give you some examples of "owning teams"
Since 1997 Cal Poly is 6-0 vs the Cats.
Cal Poly is 0-5 vs the Griz in the same period

See, Cal Poly owns the Cats because they haven't lost to them in a long time, but the Griz own Cal Poly for the same reason. A key ingredient in owning someone is beating them consistently over an extended period of time. For a player to own a team his specific performance must be the key to beating that team. So if your QB as a poor performance in 2 games and is bailed out by special teams and defense to win those games, and a good performance in a blowout loss, I just don't understand how he can "own" the other team?

[jagur1]

IE the New England Pat. own the Colts. & the Steelers


Instead of own I like to use Bitch. Can you say Bitch on BCN?

[Catz Rock]

I guess you don't like the truth......."Lulay owns you guys" The truth hurts doesn't it Go back to your gwizzle board you moron

I have never really understood why Cat fans think Lulay "Owns" the Griz. He is a good player and was the QB when the Cat's broke the streak, but look at Lulay's performance over the 3 games he has played:

2002 10-7 Cat's win. Lulay throws for 154 yards, and rushes for net 25 yards. Solid, but not spectacular. Absolutely give credit to the Cat's D, and Lulay was solid, but I would credit your defense, not Lulay for this win.

2003 27-20 Cat's win. Lulay throws for 64 yards, and rushes for net 27 yards, Cat O scores 14 points (special teams scores 6, Cat's D scores 7). Not really a good performance, but Cat special teams and D win the game again.

2004 38-22 Griz win. Lulay throws for 386 yards, and rushes for net 1 yard. Great stats, but in a losing performance that wasn't nearly as close as the score indicates.

it seems an insult to your defense to give Lulay credit for the wins in 2002 and 2003, but if you do the best you could say is Lulay was renting-to-own, and in 2004 the Griz re-possessed.

Grizbeer.....A simple YES or NO, would you trade CB for Travis Lulay? YES or NO?

Good Question - give up Cole for 4 years to have TL for the rest of this season, No, too much to give up. Cole's entire career vs TL entire career, maybe, probably, but since we have seen TL's entire career it is only fair to also see Cole's entire career, not just 1 game.

Keep in mind I never said TL wasn't a very good QB - I just pointed out that against the Griz, the games the Cat's won were more due to the Cat's defense than TL, where as the game TL had good stats the Griz crushed the Cat's. That hardly seems the trademark of someone who "owns" the Griz.

let me give you some examples of "owning teams"
Since 1997 Cal Poly is 6-0 vs the Cats.
Cal Poly is 0-5 vs the Griz in the same period

See, Cal Poly owns the Cats because they haven't lost to them in a long time, but the Griz own Cal Poly for the same reason. A key ingredient in owning someone is beating them consistently over an extended period of time. For a player to own a team his specific performance must be the key to beating that team. So if your QB as a poor performance in 2 games and is bailed out by special teams and defense to win those games, and a good performance in a blowout loss, I just don't understand how he can "own" the other team?

I knew a simple yes or no was going to throw you in to a mindless diatribe. Thanks for making my point!

Oh....almost forgot, Lulay own's you guys

[grizbeer]

I guess you don't like the truth......."Lulay owns you guys" The truth hurts doesn't it Go back to your gwizzle board you moron

I have never really understood why Cat fans think Lulay "Owns" the Griz. He is a good player and was the QB when the Cat's broke the streak, but look at Lulay's performance over the 3 games he has played:

2002 10-7 Cat's win. Lulay throws for 154 yards, and rushes for net 25 yards. Solid, but not spectacular. Absolutely give credit to the Cat's D, and Lulay was solid, but I would credit your defense, not Lulay for this win.

2003 27-20 Cat's win. Lulay throws for 64 yards, and rushes for net 27 yards, Cat O scores 14 points (special teams scores 6, Cat's D scores 7). Not really a good performance, but Cat special teams and D win the game again.

2004 38-22 Griz win. Lulay throws for 386 yards, and rushes for net 1 yard. Great stats, but in a losing performance that wasn't nearly as close as the score indicates.

it seems an insult to your defense to give Lulay credit for the wins in 2002 and 2003, but if you do the best you could say is Lulay was renting-to-own, and in 2004 the Griz re-possessed.

Grizbeer.....A simple YES or NO, would you trade CB for Travis Lulay? YES or NO?

Good Question - give up Cole for 4 years to have TL for the rest of this season, No, too much to give up. Cole's entire career vs TL entire career, maybe, probably, but since we have seen TL's entire career it is only fair to also see Cole's entire career, not just 1 game.

Keep in mind I never said TL wasn't a very good QB - I just pointed out that against the Griz, the games the Cat's won were more due to the Cat's defense than TL, where as the game TL had good stats the Griz crushed the Cat's. That hardly seems the trademark of someone who "owns" the Griz.

let me give you some examples of "owning teams"
Since 1997 Cal Poly is 6-0 vs the Cats.
Cal Poly is 0-5 vs the Griz in the same period

See, Cal Poly owns the Cats because they haven't lost to them in a long time, but the Griz own Cal Poly for the same reason. A key ingredient in owning someone is beating them consistently over an extended period of time. For a player to own a team his specific performance must be the key to beating that team. So if your QB as a poor performance in 2 games and is bailed out by special teams and defense to win those games, and a good performance in a blowout loss, I just don't understand how he can "own" the other team?

I knew a simple yes or no was going to throw you in to a mindless diatribe. Thanks for making my point!

Oh....almost forgot, Lulay own's you guys

Good 3rd grade trick Catz Rock with Yes or No answer only. Hey Catz Rock, yes or no only, have you stopped beating your girlfriend yet? Yes or No?

[tailbone]

.......A simple YES or NO, would you trade CB for Travis Lulay? YES or NO?

NO.

If you want to know why, just ask.

[Catz Rock]

.......A simple YES or NO, would you trade CB for Travis Lulay? YES or NO?

NO.

Kinda backed yourself in corner didn't you!

[tailbone]

.......A simple YES or NO, would you trade CB for Travis Lulay? YES or NO?

NO.

Kinda backed yourself in corner didn't you!

Reading challenged, huh?
You asked for a simple answer, I gave you one.
As simple as it was you still didn't understand.

Did I back myself into a corner? I don't think so.
Kinda depends on your point of view.
You asked if I'd trade (Grizbeer, actually), the answer is NO.

The only correct answer, irrespective of perspective, is No.
I wouldn't trade, and neither would you.
You wouldn't trade because TL has been a very effective part of your team - in fact a case could be made that without him the 'cats would have been a very average team at best.
I wouldn't trade because it would be silly to exchange 4 years of Berquist's potential (our Lulay?) for a single year of TL as our QB.
In 2002 Lulay would have played behind Edwards (our 2001 NC QB)
In 2003 & 2004 he would have played behind Ochs.
No way he'd have started before either of those guys.

BTW: If you think the trade makes good sense...I have some Arizona beachfront you might be interested in.

[GavinDonos]

In 2002 Lulay would have played behind Edwards (our 2001 NC QB)
In 2003 & 2004 he would have played behind Ochs.
No way he'd have started before either of those guys.

Stop being so condescending!

[mquast53000]

In 2002 Lulay would have played behind Edwards (our 2001 NC QB)
In 2003 & 2004 he would have played behind Ochs.
No way he'd have started before either of those guys.

Do you actually know anything about football?
When people post things like this I wonder "why are they drinking in the middle of the day?"

[canyoncat]

Lulay probably would have sat behind Edwards for a year. However, I'll almost guarantee that Ochs probably would have never come to Missoula. Why? Because the griz coaches would have seen the talant and would have probably never have recruited him. But we will never know now will we???

GO CATS!!!!

[tailbone]

Lulay probably would have sat behind Edwards for a year. However, I'll almost guarantee that Ochs probably would have never come to Missoula. Why? Because the griz coaches would have seen the talant and would have probably never have recruited him. But we will never know now will we???

GO CATS!!!!

Ochs wasn't recruited.
He came to Montana as a 1A transfer.
Travis would have had to compete for the starting job.
Quast, as a former player, surely you can appreciate the ability of Ochs - If not, it is you who have been drinking.