There's at least one post on the big gift thread that wrote that it would come at the end of the season. Personally, I think the whole thing is more of a wish or a rumor than a fact. I'd love to be pleasantly surprised though, especially since most of my season tickets are in the East grandstands and I would love to see them re-built, although a bit sad to see them go away too. I love it when the East grandstanders stomp their feet and the banging noise that comes with it and when they get the stands shaking a bit, but, truthfully, that shaking is also a bit terrifying. I like sitting next to most of the same folks I've sat next to for years, but a couple of them I wouldn't mind seeing move elsewhere with a re-build. I know I'd love to see some hand rails and no rust on the stands and maybe some better toilet facilities too.
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And maybe better traction and less slippery.AFCAT wrote: ↑Fri May 23, 2025 9:34 amThere's at least one post on the big gift thread that wrote that it would come at the end of the season. Personally, I think the whole thing is more of a wish or a rumor than a fact. I'd love to be pleasantly surprised though, especially since most of my season tickets are in the East grandstands and I would love to see them re-built, although a bit sad to see them go away too. I love it when the East grandstanders stomp their feet and the banging noise that comes with it and when they get the stands shaking a bit, but, truthfully, that shaking is also a bit terrifying. I like sitting next to most of the same folks I've sat next to for years, but a couple of them I wouldn't mind seeing move elsewhere with a re-build. I know I'd love to see some hand rails and no rust on the stands and maybe some better toilet facilities too.
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Some of these definitely benefit from playing in poor conferences and Gilman at 2 seems a little high. He’s a dude, but Jones basically had an equal season to him. Oh wells, it means absolutely nothing, as I think Davis is going to turn some heads and make others roll on the field this season. He’s been busting his ass this off season and is looking strong. The dude at 1 has about 40 or more carries than most on the list with about the same yards, in the Patriot League…
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Yeah, all of these sites are just putting out click-bait for views, engagements, and monetization. Best stadiums stories/polls, best running backs, best fan bases, best game days, vote for this, vote for that, etc. Gets them some money in the bank for very little effort. The person who I think is a genius is the college football campus tour guy. He gets to go to all sorts of football games all year, writes up a short blurb on each, and puts out really basic content, then gets paid for the engagements on his sites. Frigin A, dude!SparkCat wrote: ↑Sat May 24, 2025 8:48 pmSome of these definitely benefit from playing in poor conferences and Gilman at 2 seems a little high. He’s a dude, but Jones basically had an equal season to him. Oh wells, it means absolutely nothing, as I think Davis is going to turn some heads and make others roll on the field this season. He’s been busting his ass this off season and is looking strong. The dude at 1 has about 40 or more carries than most on the list with about the same yards, in the Patriot League…
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F’n A, man! I try not to get fired up, but dammit I always take the bait.AFCAT wrote: ↑Sun May 25, 2025 9:03 amYeah, all of these sites are just putting out click-bait for views, engagements, and monetization. Best stadiums stories/polls, best running backs, best fan bases, best game days, vote for this, vote for that, etc. Gets them some money in the bank for very little effort. The person who I think is a genius is the college football campus tour guy. He gets to go to all sorts of football games all year, writes up a short blurb on each, and puts out really basic content, then gets paid for the engagements on his sites. Frigin A, dude!SparkCat wrote: ↑Sat May 24, 2025 8:48 pmSome of these definitely benefit from playing in poor conferences and Gilman at 2 seems a little high. He’s a dude, but Jones basically had an equal season to him. Oh wells, it means absolutely nothing, as I think Davis is going to turn some heads and make others roll on the field this season. He’s been busting his ass this off season and is looking strong. The dude at 1 has about 40 or more carries than most on the list with about the same yards, in the Patriot League…
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Gilman at 2 is totally fine. He is definitely one of the best backs in all of FCS and put up stellar numbers despite sharing with Ostmo and having a coach that sabotaged the offense by playing QB roulette last year. He has great vision, patience, is a beast to tackle and when he breaks into open field he is is probably housing it.SparkCat wrote: ↑Sat May 24, 2025 8:48 pmSome of these definitely benefit from playing in poor conferences and Gilman at 2 seems a little high. He’s a dude, but Jones basically had an equal season to him. Oh wells, it means absolutely nothing, as I think Davis is going to turn some heads and make others roll on the field this season. He’s been busting his ass this off season and is looking strong. The dude at 1 has about 40 or more carries than most on the list with about the same yards, in the Patriot League…
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There's a big difference between best running back room and best running game. The Griz might have a better RB room than MSU. There might be a lot of RB rooms better than MSU's. However, just about every RB that MSU has had since 2021, regardless of how far down the depth chart they are, has run well (typically 6.0 ypc or more) when given the opportunity. This isn't to say that you need to have an elite OL to have a good running game, but it sure helps. The fact that Gilman ran for 6.0+ ypc last year with the OL he had (good but not on MSU's level) is a good indicator of his ability.Prodigal Cat wrote: ↑Mon May 26, 2025 8:53 amGilman at 2 is totally fine. He is definitely one of the best backs in all of FCS and put up stellar numbers despite sharing with Ostmo and having a coach that sabotaged the offense by playing QB roulette last year. He has great vision, patience, is a beast to tackle and when he breaks into open field he is is probably housing it.SparkCat wrote: ↑Sat May 24, 2025 8:48 pmSome of these definitely benefit from playing in poor conferences and Gilman at 2 seems a little high. He’s a dude, but Jones basically had an equal season to him. Oh wells, it means absolutely nothing, as I think Davis is going to turn some heads and make others roll on the field this season. He’s been busting his ass this off season and is looking strong. The dude at 1 has about 40 or more carries than most on the list with about the same yards, in the Patriot League…
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You also have to look at each game. Some RBs end up with good numbers (stats are like this universally) because they have games of 17 carries for 148 yards against really bad defenses, then get 28 yards on 13 carries the next game against a good defense.
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Like stated earlier. These lists are for the most part based on limited knowledge of players. I think Gilman deserves to be in the list, I just think if they are comparing apples to apples, they should of clumped a few of our guys higher, heck even having Gilman at 2 is fine, but throwing players in trash conferences high on the list, with comparable or even lesser stats leaves one to scratch their head.Prodigal Cat wrote: ↑Mon May 26, 2025 8:53 amGilman at 2 is totally fine. He is definitely one of the best backs in all of FCS and put up stellar numbers despite sharing with Ostmo and having a coach that sabotaged the offense by playing QB roulette last year. He has great vision, patience, is a beast to tackle and when he breaks into open field he is is probably housing it.SparkCat wrote: ↑Sat May 24, 2025 8:48 pmSome of these definitely benefit from playing in poor conferences and Gilman at 2 seems a little high. He’s a dude, but Jones basically had an equal season to him. Oh wells, it means absolutely nothing, as I think Davis is going to turn some heads and make others roll on the field this season. He’s been busting his ass this off season and is looking strong. The dude at 1 has about 40 or more carries than most on the list with about the same yards, in the Patriot League…
One of the things I hate the most about gris fan is their utter dismissal of any accomplishments of the Cats. They are the most delusional fanbase when it comes to their team and they have ZERO introspection. If you cannot be truthful about the opponent it counterfeits any/all opinions you have. At the beginning of last season they were saying they had the best RB room in the conference, which was a joke. Yes, Gilman is elite but the rest did not stack up to what was Davis, Jones, and Humphrey. But don't tell a gris fan that. The truth is Gilman is probably the best RB in the Big Sky but the Bobcat room is far superior... and they have MUCH better blocking. If you don't acknowledge that your just a jerk like most of gris nation is.
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This is the exact same attitude that has Wehr fighting for a roster spot instead of being drafted like he should have been. "He doesn't play in a power conference so he probably isn't good." I want you to be honest and i mean honest, how many snaps of Jamar Curtis or Mari Adams have you actually watched??? again be honest.SparkCat wrote: ↑Mon May 26, 2025 3:06 pmLike stated earlier. These lists are for the most part based on limited knowledge of players. I think Gilman deserves to be in the list, I just think if they are comparing apples to apples, they should of clumped a few of our guys higher, heck even having Gilman at 2 is fine, but throwing players in trash conferences high on the list, with comparable or even lesser stats leaves one to scratch their head.Prodigal Cat wrote: ↑Mon May 26, 2025 8:53 amGilman at 2 is totally fine. He is definitely one of the best backs in all of FCS and put up stellar numbers despite sharing with Ostmo and having a coach that sabotaged the offense by playing QB roulette last year. He has great vision, patience, is a beast to tackle and when he breaks into open field he is is probably housing it.SparkCat wrote: ↑Sat May 24, 2025 8:48 pmSome of these definitely benefit from playing in poor conferences and Gilman at 2 seems a little high. He’s a dude, but Jones basically had an equal season to him. Oh wells, it means absolutely nothing, as I think Davis is going to turn some heads and make others roll on the field this season. He’s been busting his ass this off season and is looking strong. The dude at 1 has about 40 or more carries than most on the list with about the same yards, in the Patriot League…
One of the things I hate the most about gris fan is their utter dismissal of any accomplishments of the Cats. They are the most delusional fanbase when it comes to their team and they have ZERO introspection. If you cannot be truthful about the opponent it counterfeits any/all opinions you have. At the beginning of last season they were saying they had the best RB room in the conference, which was a joke. Yes, Gilman is elite but the rest did not stack up to what was Davis, Jones, and Humphrey. But don't tell a gris fan that. The truth is Gilman is probably the best RB in the Big Sky but the Bobcat room is far superior... and they have MUCH better blocking. If you don't acknowledge that your just a jerk like most of gris nation is.
I put Zach McKinnell in the Sam Herder group of people who know SIGNIFIGANTLY more about FCS than I do. He is very good at what he does. I do not put him in the Craig Haley group who is just engagement farming most of the time it seems.
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Watched Curtis a few games, with ties to PA I try and watch a few of their FCS games. He’s dynamic, with burst speed, but nothing made me go wow, aside from his durability, dude got the ball a lot and I’ll admit a few games is not enough, if I’d watch a few cat games as an outsider there are a few I’d wonder what the RB hype is about. Anyone else on that list aside from Yoder, I’m not aware of. I’ll stand down though.Prodigal Cat wrote: ↑Mon May 26, 2025 4:42 pmThis is the exact same attitude that has Wehr fighting for a roster spot instead of being drafted like he should have been. "He doesn't play in a power conference so he probably isn't good." I want you to be honest and i mean honest, how many snaps of Jamar Curtis or Mari Adams have you actually watched??? again be honest.SparkCat wrote: ↑Mon May 26, 2025 3:06 pmLike stated earlier. These lists are for the most part based on limited knowledge of players. I think Gilman deserves to be in the list, I just think if they are comparing apples to apples, they should of clumped a few of our guys higher, heck even having Gilman at 2 is fine, but throwing players in trash conferences high on the list, with comparable or even lesser stats leaves one to scratch their head.Prodigal Cat wrote: ↑Mon May 26, 2025 8:53 amGilman at 2 is totally fine. He is definitely one of the best backs in all of FCS and put up stellar numbers despite sharing with Ostmo and having a coach that sabotaged the offense by playing QB roulette last year. He has great vision, patience, is a beast to tackle and when he breaks into open field he is is probably housing it.SparkCat wrote: ↑Sat May 24, 2025 8:48 pmSome of these definitely benefit from playing in poor conferences and Gilman at 2 seems a little high. He’s a dude, but Jones basically had an equal season to him. Oh wells, it means absolutely nothing, as I think Davis is going to turn some heads and make others roll on the field this season. He’s been busting his ass this off season and is looking strong. The dude at 1 has about 40 or more carries than most on the list with about the same yards, in the Patriot League…
One of the things I hate the most about gris fan is their utter dismissal of any accomplishments of the Cats. They are the most delusional fanbase when it comes to their team and they have ZERO introspection. If you cannot be truthful about the opponent it counterfeits any/all opinions you have. At the beginning of last season they were saying they had the best RB room in the conference, which was a joke. Yes, Gilman is elite but the rest did not stack up to what was Davis, Jones, and Humphrey. But don't tell a gris fan that. The truth is Gilman is probably the best RB in the Big Sky but the Bobcat room is far superior... and they have MUCH better blocking. If you don't acknowledge that your just a jerk like most of gris nation is.
I put Zach McKinnell in the Sam Herder group of people who know SIGNIFIGANTLY more about FCS than I do. He is very good at what he does. I do not put him in the Craig Haley group who is just engagement farming most of the time it seems.
Edit* I guess Rohan proves a few of my points wrong.
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100% agreed. We can admit Gilman is good. And he did it behind a lesser o line. Still good but lesser than elite.Prodigal Cat wrote: ↑Mon May 26, 2025 8:53 amGilman at 2 is totally fine. He is definitely one of the best backs in all of FCS and put up stellar numbers despite sharing with Ostmo and having a coach that sabotaged the offense by playing QB roulette last year. He has great vision, patience, is a beast to tackle and when he breaks into open field he is is probably housing it.SparkCat wrote: ↑Sat May 24, 2025 8:48 pmSome of these definitely benefit from playing in poor conferences and Gilman at 2 seems a little high. He’s a dude, but Jones basically had an equal season to him. Oh wells, it means absolutely nothing, as I think Davis is going to turn some heads and make others roll on the field this season. He’s been busting his ass this off season and is looking strong. The dude at 1 has about 40 or more carries than most on the list with about the same yards, in the Patriot League…
One of the things I hate the most about gris fan is their utter dismissal of any accomplishments of the Cats. They are the most delusional fanbase when it comes to their team and they have ZERO introspection. If you cannot be truthful about the opponent it counterfeits any/all opinions you have. At the beginning of last season they were saying they had the best RB room in the conference, which was a joke. Yes, Gilman is elite but the rest did not stack up to what was Davis, Jones, and Humphrey. But don't tell a gris fan that. The truth is Gilman is probably the best RB in the Big Sky but the Bobcat room is far superior... and they have MUCH better blocking. If you don't acknowledge that your just a jerk like most of gris nation is.
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Some of these definitely benefit from playing in poor conferences and Gilman at 2 seems a little high. He’s a dude, but Jones basically had an equal season to him. Oh wells, it means absolutely nothing, as I think Davis is going to turn some heads and make others roll on the field this season. He’s been busting his ass this off season and is looking strong. The dude at 1 has about 40 or more carries than most on the list with about the same yards, in the Patriot League…lutecat wrote: ↑Tue May 27, 2025 5:42 pm[quote="Prodigal Cat" post_id=911586 time=<a href="tel:1748271193">1748271193</a> user_id=21432]
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Gilman at 2 is totally fine. He is definitely one of the best backs in all of FCS and put up stellar numbers despite sharing with Ostmo and having a coach that sabotaged the offense by playing QB roulette last year. He has great vision, patience, is a beast to tackle and when he breaks into open field he is is probably housing it.
One of the things I hate the most about gris fan is their utter dismissal of any accomplishments of the Cats. They are the most delusional fanbase when it comes to their team and they have ZERO introspection. If you cannot be truthful about the opponent it counterfeits any/all opinions you have. At the beginning of last season they were saying they had the best RB room in the conference, which was a joke. Yes, Gilman is elite but the rest did not stack up to what was Davis, Jones, and Humphrey. But don't tell a gris fan that. The truth is Gilman is probably the best RB in the Big Sky but the Bobcat room is far superior... and they have MUCH better blocking. If you don't acknowledge that your just a jerk like most of gris nation is.
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100% agreed. We can admit Gilman is good. And he did it behind a lesser o line. Still good but lesser than elite.
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That's great for Jaharie. I had really hoped to see him play more for the Cats and seemed to just not have the speed required.
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Ok I feel out of the loop. Who is this dude, and why is he famous? I've gathered he went to MSU but nothing else