Moving up

[Cataholic]

Must watch by Missouri coach on impact to student athletes:

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT8LHKcwq/

Thanks for sharing that. Very eye-opening.

No problem! On another note, I was just working out and I saw the NCAA advertisement on how 99% of the athletes go pro in something other than sports. Crazy how the NCAA has allowed these changes to transpire wi the little thought toward academics. Can you imagine how difficult the Pacific time zone teams versus Eastern time zone teams trips will be for the students? And those would be conference games like women’s basketball. Impact on the student athlete appears to be the last thing considered.

Just working out at 6:56PM??? How can you be great doing that? haha


Just kidding and I agree completely on them not looking at the academics.

Definitely slacking!! Although I have never been a fan of the early morning workouts! I am just happy to make it to the gym anymore!

[Cat Grad]

Must watch by Missouri coach on impact to student athletes:

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT8LHKcwq/

Thanks for sharing that. Very eye-opening.

No problem! On another note, I was just working out and I saw the NCAA advertisement on how 99% of the athletes go pro in something other than sports. Crazy how the NCAA has allowed these changes to transpire wi the little thought toward academics. Can you imagine how difficult the Pacific time zone teams versus Eastern time zone teams trips will be for the students? And those would be conference games like women’s basketball. Impact on the student athlete appears to be the last thing considered.

Just working out at 6:56PM??? How can you be great doing that? haha


Just kidding and I agree completely on them not looking at the academics.

Definitely slacking!! Although I have never been a fan of the early morning workouts! I am just happy to make it to the gym anymore!

You're better than that! As a young man, you owe it to yourself and your loved ones to take care of your body. Not that you have anything to prove to anybody, but you'll definitely feel better and your productivity will go up. Besides, you're too old to become a Ranger or SEAL anyway.

[Lord Vigo]

Colter suggested the idea of realigned conference on his radio show:

Montana State
Montana
Idaho
Weber State
Utah State
Wyoming
Air Force
New Mexico
Colorado State

That would be a really cool outcome in terms of both regionality and competition.

[Bobcat Sig]

Colter suggested the idea of realigned conference on his radio show:

Montana State
Montana
Idaho
Weber State
Utah State
Wyoming
Air Force
New Mexico
Colorado State

That would be a really cool outcome in terms of both regionality and competition.

Yup. I like this. I don’t like the inclusion of Weebz given their fan support, but it make sense given their proximity to Utah State.

On this, wouldn’t it also make sense to include Boise St and FresYes?

[Lord Vigo]

Colter suggested the idea of realigned conference on his radio show:

Montana State
Montana
Idaho
Weber State
Utah State
Wyoming
Air Force
New Mexico
Colorado State

That would be a really cool outcome in terms of both regionality and competition.

Yup. I like this. I don’t mind the inclusion of Weebz given their fan support, but it make sense bien their proximity to Utah State.

On this, wouldn’t it also make sense to include Boise St and FresYes?

I think in this concept, BSU and Fresno State formed pieces of new conferences composed of former Mountain West and PAC 12 teams.

[Bobcat Sig]

Colter suggested the idea of realigned conference on his radio show:

Montana State
Montana
Idaho
Weber State
Utah State
Wyoming
Air Force
New Mexico
Colorado State

That would be a really cool outcome in terms of both regionality and competition.

Yup. I like this. I don’t mind the inclusion of Weebz given their fan support, but it make sense bien their proximity to Utah State.

On this, wouldn’t it also make sense to include Boise St and FresYes?

I think in this concept, BSU and Fresno State formed pieces of new conferences composed of former Mountain West and PAC 12 teams.

Makes sense. Though it would be cool to see the Idaho-BSU rivalry renewed

[Lord Vigo]

Colter suggested the idea of realigned conference on his radio show:

Montana State
Montana
Idaho
Weber State
Utah State
Wyoming
Air Force
New Mexico
Colorado State

That would be a really cool outcome in terms of both regionality and competition.

Yup. I like this. I don’t mind the inclusion of Weebz given their fan support, but it make sense bien their proximity to Utah State.

On this, wouldn’t it also make sense to include Boise St and FresYes?

I think in this concept, BSU and Fresno State formed pieces of new conferences composed of former Mountain West and PAC 12 teams.

Makes sense. Though it would be cool to see the Idaho-BSU rivalry renewed

Yeah, I agree.

[Cat Grad]

Lots of moving parts.

https://trojanswire.usatoday.com/lists/ ... it-happen/

[Cataholic]

Colter suggested the idea of realigned conference on his radio show:

Montana State
Montana
Idaho
Weber State
Utah State
Wyoming
Air Force
New Mexico
Colorado State

That would be a really cool outcome in terms of both regionality and competition.

Yup. I like this. I don’t mind the inclusion of Weebz given their fan support, but it make sense bien their proximity to Utah State.

On this, wouldn’t it also make sense to include Boise St and FresYes?

I think in this concept, BSU and Fresno State formed pieces of new conferences composed of former Mountain West and PAC 12 teams.

Makes sense. Though it would be cool to see the Idaho-BSU rivalry renewed

The Mountain West currently has a “Mountain” Division composed of 6 teams. This is the Mountain division minus Boise State and adding in 4 Big Sky teams.

While highly unlikely due to our small Montana and Dakotas media markets, I would love to see the Mountain West add Washington State, MSU, UM, NDSU and SDSU to the Mountain division. Then move New Mexico to their “West” division and add Oregon State and Cal and another school to bring each division to 10 teams. A conference with 20 decent teams that covers the entire Western US has to have some interest to some TV outlets. I regularly find myself watching crappy MW games on Saturday because nothing else is on

Mountain Division:
Washington State
Utah State
Wyoming
Air Force
Boise State
Colorado State
MSU
UM
NDSU
SDSU

West Division:
Oregon State
Cal
Fresno State
San Diego State
UNLV
Hawaii
New Mexico
Nevada
San Jose State
??? (NAU, Sac State, UC Davis)

Most likely though, Washington State, Oregon State and Cal will join the MWC and the current FCS schools will remain where they are. Stanford will go independent.

[Cat Grad]

Colter suggested the idea of realigned conference on his radio show:

Montana State
Montana
Idaho
Weber State
Utah State
Wyoming
Air Force
New Mexico
Colorado State

That would be a really cool outcome in terms of both regionality and competition.

Yup. I like this. I don’t mind the inclusion of Weebz given their fan support, but it make sense bien their proximity to Utah State.

On this, wouldn’t it also make sense to include Boise St and FresYes?

I think in this concept, BSU and Fresno State formed pieces of new conferences composed of former Mountain West and PAC 12 teams.

Makes sense. Though it would be cool to see the Idaho-BSU rivalry renewed

The Mountain West currently has a “Mountain” Division composed of 6 teams. This is the Mountain division minus Boise State and adding in 4 Big Sky teams.

While highly unlikely due to our small Montana and Dakotas media markets, I would love to see the Mountain West add Washington State, MSU, UM, NDSU and SDSU to the Mountain division. Then move New Mexico to their “West” division and add Oregon State and Cal and another school to bring each division to 10 teams. A conference with 20 decent teams that covers the entire Western US has to have some interest to some TV outlets. I regularly find myself watching crappy MW games on Saturday because nothing else is on

Mountain Division:
Washington State
Utah State
Wyoming
Air Force
Boise State
Colorado State
MSU
UM
NDSU
SDSU

West Division:
Oregon State
Cal
Fresno State
San Diego State
UNLV
Hawaii
New Mexico
Nevada
San Jose State
??? (NAU, Sac State, UC Davis)

Most likely though, Washington State, Oregon State and Cal will join the MWC and the current FCS schools will remain where they are. Stanford will go independent.

Probably not. One would assume the egos of the two bay area schools would rather associate with schools such as Rice and SMU rather than set foot in Boise.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_ ... Conference

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_ ... Conference

[Prodigal Cat]

Man I don't know. Wazoo has been operating with tight budgets for awhile now. If they drop to MW type TV money they could be in a world of hurt. Cal, OSU and WSU really got screwed big time.

[CatBot]

Man I don't know. Wazoo has been operating with tight budgets for awhile now. If they drop to MW type TV money they could be in a world of hurt. Cal, OSU and WSU really got screwed big time.

Lost track how many times now I've wondered if Isaiah has questioned his decision to leave MSU, but here's another. Total and complete sh!tshow going on in the PAC. For example, Julius Davis just chose MSU over Cal.

[Cataholic]

Man I don't know. Wazoo has been operating with tight budgets for awhile now. If they drop to MW type TV money they could be in a world of hurt. Cal, OSU and WSU really got screwed big time.

Agreed. But no big conference wants Wazzoo. They wont have a choice but to downsize their budget - significantly. Their market was probably the smallest in the PAC 12.

[AFCAT]

Man I don't know. Wazoo has been operating with tight budgets for awhile now. If they drop to MW type TV money they could be in a world of hurt. Cal, OSU and WSU really got screwed big time.

Lost track how many times now I've wondered if Isaiah has questioned his decision to leave MSU, but here's another. Total and complete sh!tshow going on in the PAC. For example, Julius Davis just chose MSU over Cal.

Isaiah is only there for a year and the 2023 schedule doesn't change. I'm sure whatever NIL money they gave him makes up for it too.

[CodyCat]

Colter suggested the idea of realigned conference on his radio show:

Montana State
Montana
Idaho
Weber State
Utah State
Wyoming
Air Force
New Mexico
Colorado State

That would be a really cool outcome in terms of both regionality and competition.

People keep throwing Idaho into the mix for moving up. They just moved back down and they've had one decent season (in football). I'd be shocked if Idaho has any interest in moving back up. Their stint in the FBS and their subsequent move back to the FCS created a pile of drama in Moscow. I'm sure they are pretty happy with where they are.

[Lord Vigo]

Colter suggested the idea of realigned conference on his radio show:

Montana State
Montana
Idaho
Weber State
Utah State
Wyoming
Air Force
New Mexico
Colorado State

That would be a really cool outcome in terms of both regionality and competition.

People keep throwing Idaho into the mix for moving up. They just moved back down and they've had one decent season (in football). I'd be shocked if Idaho has any interest in moving back up. Their stint in the FBS and their subsequent move back to the FCS created a pile of drama in Moscow. I'm sure they are pretty happy with where they are.

I see what you’re saying, but “where they are” might change around them, whether they like it or not. In any case, it’s just one idea of a regional conference of Rocky Mountain front teams. I wouldn’t be married to the idea of them being included.

[kmax]

Colter suggested the idea of realigned conference on his radio show:

Montana State
Montana
Idaho
Weber State
Utah State
Wyoming
Air Force
New Mexico
Colorado State

That would be a really cool outcome in terms of both regionality and competition.

People keep throwing Idaho into the mix for moving up. They just moved back down and they've had one decent season (in football). I'd be shocked if Idaho has any interest in moving back up. Their stint in the FBS and their subsequent move back to the FCS created a pile of drama in Moscow. I'm sure they are pretty happy with where they are.

Had Idaho been able to get into a stable conference with the likes of Utah State, Wyoming, Air Force, New Mexico, Colorado State there is 0% chance they ever would have moved back down to FCS.

[Montanabob]

so are they adding scholarships?

https://www.espn.in/college-football/st ... versity-24

[imacat]

Here is an article on the challenges and opportunities of moving up.

https://www.montanasports.com/big-sky-c ... tana-state

I also stumbled across this comment by Jim O’Day on Facebook …

The main question will continue to be... "Where can we find new money to survive where we are?" Television/media rights revenues at the FCS level are minimal... say $100,000 annually for Montana and Montana State, for example (compared to about $6 million annually at Wyoming or up to $90 million at Ohio State). Expenses continue to climb rapidly for scholarships, coaches/staffing, travel, equipment and supplies, insurance, utilities, etc. Aside from significantly raising ticket prices, or student athletic fees, or booster club contributions, most other revenue sources such as that from the NCAA, the conference or corporate sales will probably remain fairly constant - if not decrease with all the conference realignment shuffling taking place. Big money football guarantee games could also become a thing of the past. The only real answers are either to see university coffers providing more funds (which is always frowned upon, and tops more than $7 million per year already) or begin cutting costs. One idea might be to cut allowable football scholarships at the FCS level from 63 to 50 or so, and/or maybe trim some sport offerings, yet keep at least the minimum sports to remain Division I/FCS compliant. At the same time, universities must always take Title IX compliance into any equation. All that said, there's lot of major challenges ahead and tough decisions to be made for most Division I athletic programs... and changes and decision-making are coming fast. Stay tuned, cuz UM and MSU aren't alone!

[onceacat]

This entire situation is a joke. These student athletes are going to get dragged all over the country so these rich morons can continue to suck every penny out of college football. The kids playing all the other sports are paying for this disaster. This is literally proof that the student in student athlete is meaningless.

I’m proud that we are FCS and not a part of this mess and I hope it stays that way.

I've got a kid leaving home to run cross country at a D1 school.

I'm so glad its at a small school in a mid-major conference where he won't be flying across 4 time zones for a meet.

Fine, I get it, the kids in the money sports dont need the degree, they'll be fine. But the Olympic sports kids are really getting the shaft here.