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webdav · Post by **webdav** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 7:24 pm

maroon wrote:Grabbing the face mask should have been called but I do not think the Griz intercepted that pass. The Griz had three pics: Jackson, Thomas and Anderson. The Griz in this pic looks like Jimmy Wilson. He intercepted a pass but it was waived off due to interference.

Yes, that one was intercepted by a defender not pictured when the ball went beyond the receiver.

And the back judge was RIGHT THERE looking at the facemask.

I don't claim bias or blame the refs for the loss. I just think they are incompetent, and a loss is a loss that cannot be changed.

Post by **SonomaCat** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 7:24 pm

maroon wrote:Grabbing the face mask should have been called but I do not think the Griz intercepted that pass. The Griz had three pics: Jackson, Thomas and Anderson. The Griz in this pic looks like Jimmy Wilson. He intercepted a pass but it was waived off due to interference.

I'm pretty sure that was a play that resulted in an INT. They replayed it on TV, and the whole party (including Griz fans) let out an "Oooh" when they showed it. That was the first drive that Carpenter was in on.

But I've been wrong on nearly everything the last couple days, and I had a few beers by that time, so I will wait for somebody with more confidence have the final say.

webdav · Post by **webdav** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 7:25 pm

Bay Area Cat wrote:I will wait for somebody with more confidence have the final say.

Look up.

I was stone sober.

webdav · Post by **webdav** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 7:28 pm

Sportin' Life wrote:Like I said before the game....I'll practice my celebratory drinking and you guys practice your whining about the refs and by game time we'll both be ready.....

How does your celebratory drinking jive with your practicing whining about field conditions?

torrybruce · Post by **torrybruce** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 7:29 pm

info197176 wrote:The refs did not cost you guys the game...grow up. BTW Jason, time to change your sig..WE have the trophy now!!!

I'm not saying they cost us the game, I'm saying they overwhelmingly sucked all season for all of our teams and it will be nice to get a change of pace from our glorious Big Sky crew.

Ponycat · Post by **Ponycat** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 8:56 pm

The replay was hard to tell on that long pass. I thought he was out first but of course I'm biased. That facemask and the second to the last pass play the cats has, Weaton was interferred with but not call. I'm sure the Girz have some grips but these were my biggest two.

94VegasCat · Post by **94VegasCat** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 9:02 pm

Has anyone emailed this picture to the BSC dictatorship?

I don't even think you need an explanation. maybe just

NO CALL?

Air_Griz · Post by **Air_Griz** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 9:35 pm

tetoncat wrote:and they ruled he stepped out of bounds first at the 4

O.K. But 24,018 fans at Wa-Griz watched the Griz Vision and it showed him still in bounds.

So, who gives a sh**t what the ruling was. It was the wrong ruling and the Cats were shut-out.

bobcatmaniac · Post by **bobcatmaniac** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 9:37 pm

Air_Griz wrote:
tetoncat wrote:and they ruled he stepped out of bounds first at the 4
O.K. But 24,018 fans at Wa-Griz watched the Griz Vision and it showed him still in bounds.

So, who gives a sh**t what the ruling was. It was the wrong ruling and the Cats were shut-out.

Well then lets correct all of the "wrong" rulings. THEN we will see what the score is.

Air_Griz · Post by **Air_Griz** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 9:41 pm

bobcatmaniac wrote:
Air_Griz wrote:
tetoncat wrote:and they ruled he stepped out of bounds first at the 4
O.K. But 24,018 fans at Wa-Griz watched the Griz Vision and it showed him still in bounds.

So, who gives a sh**t what the ruling was. It was the wrong ruling and the Cats were shut-out.
Well then lets correct all of the "wrong" rulings. THEN we will see what the score is.

I'm not complaining. Griz beat the Cats. I just think its b.s. that this thread attempts to make a big deal about 1 call. My point is that the other blown call had a much bigger impact on the game. It resulted in 7 points for the Cats.

tetoncat · Post by **tetoncat** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 9:46 pm

And the two plays we are talking about were when the Griz had a 6 point lead. They were on the Cats last two possessions, and both would have kept the drives alive. So take your 7 you feel we did not earn, give us the two TD's we would have scored on the calls we did not like and we still win 14-13. Sound fair????

Htowngriz · Post by **Htowngriz** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 10:06 pm

tetoncat wrote:And the two plays we are talking about were when the Griz had a 6 point lead. They were on the Cats last two possessions, and both would have kept the drives alive. So take your 7 you feel we did not earn, give us the two TD's we would have scored on the calls we did not like and we still win 14-13. Sound fair????

So you're sure that they would have scored?

grizzh8r · Post by **grizzh8r** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 10:36 pm

Htowngriz wrote:
tetoncat wrote:And the two plays we are talking about were when the Griz had a 6 point lead. They were on the Cats last two possessions, and both would have kept the drives alive. So take your 7 you feel we did not earn, give us the two TD's we would have scored on the calls we did not like and we still win 14-13. Sound fair????
So you're sure that they would have scored?

A 15 yard penalty at that time in the game can do funny things - like shift momentum...

Too bad we won't ever know.

Ah well, we play this weekend, so at least we won't get ribbed by Griz fans saying "what are you doing Saturday the 25th?".

Co Cats!

Go Saints!

Go Gr...

Er...

Go Gri...

Hmmmm.

I tired my damndest - sorry, still can't say it...

Egg Salad · Post by **Egg Salad** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 10:39 pm

grizzh8r wrote:
Htowngriz wrote:
tetoncat wrote:And the two plays we are talking about were when the Griz had a 6 point lead. They were on the Cats last two possessions, and both would have kept the drives alive. So take your 7 you feel we did not earn, give us the two TD's we would have scored on the calls we did not like and we still win 14-13. Sound fair????
So you're sure that they would have scored?
A 15 yard penalty at that time in the game can do funny things - like shift momentum...

Too bad we won't ever know.

Ah well, we play this weekend, so at least we won't get ribbed by Griz fans saying "what are you doing Saturday the 25th?".

Co Cats!

Go Saints!

Go Gr...

Er...

Go Gri...

Hmmmm.

I tired my damndest - sorry, still can't say it...

Go Griz. You're welcome.

083190 · Post by **083190** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 11:36 pm

This is the play that Thomas got his interception on. It went off of the receivers hands and Thomas caught it on the tip.

Beercat · Post by **Beercat** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 8:24 am

info197176 wrote:The refs did not cost you guys the game...grow up. BTW Jason, time to change your sig..WE have the trophy now!!!

may not have cost the Cats the game but they should have had a first and goal at the five with just under 2mins to play!

El_Gato · Post by **El_Gato** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 8:54 am

There's a followup picture over on egriz; it was taken a second or two after the one at the beginning of this thread.

In that picture, the Griz d-back is diving with the ball already in his hands. However, just behind him, Barnhart is now on the ground and the Griz DB who was covering him in picture 1 STILL has a firm grip on Elliot's facemask.

I'm not about to say that this non-call cost us the game but I am ASTOUNDED that the zebras failed to see & call what was clearly an obvious facemask.

Beercat · Post by **Beercat** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 11:05 am

WyomingGrizFan wrote:Didn't Josh Lewis fumble the ball before he crossed the goal line after his long reception into the end zone which was subsequently recovered by the Griz for a touchback? Not that the ref missed that one either of course, since he didn't go out of bounds before the fumble & all. Can't call it unless you see it I guess.

Once the ball breaks the plane and the player has control it’s a td. Enough said.

go_catz! · Post by **go_catz!** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 11:22 am

I really think we gotta quit whining about the refs. Sure they missed some calls, but that's just a part of Big Sky football we have to live with.

There were way to many huge plays/missed plays in the first half alone that this game could have swung huge in our favor. A missed int on the Griz first possession gives them their 3 points. Jefferson drops some HUGE balls, one inside the 5. A fumble on the 30, though a great play by the Griz D. Bad pass by Rolo picked off in Griz territory, though I think Rolo saved a touchdown with a tackle on the return. 3rd and one, from the gun on our second drive when Mason's been running pretty well???

Those two D's were damn fun to watch. Lots of shoulda woulda couldas, but the bottom line is we lost the game and now it's time for Furman. I'd love a rematch though...I think the Griz were very fortunate to come away with a 'W' in that one.

College football is alive and well in Montana!!

grizbeer · Post by **grizbeer** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 12:02 pm

I watched the Bobby Hauck show last night and they showed this play, it is the Int Thomas got. It looked liked the contact was made after the receiver tipped the ball, but from the picture it does look like a face mask.

Here's the thing, at the time the Cat's were on their own 20. With the PF they would have had it at their own 35. As it was Montana got possession, and 3 plays later the Cat's intercepted, and got the ball at the Montana 40. In the end the no-call had no effect on the outcome.