New QB info...

tetoncat · Post by **tetoncat** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 10:23 am

If Rolovich ends up being a player and he or Carpenter start with the other the backup. What will happen to Coppack. Does he have the skills to switch to another position or will he leave and drop down. I think it will be great to have two redshirt QB's and two juniors. Also, if Desin is intended to play another spot you may see him on special teams next year and if it pans out at QB he could redshirt later.

Post by **rtb** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 10:28 am

Coppack is rumored to no longer be on the team. I hope that isn't the case, but that has been floating out there for a while. Can anyone confirm or deny that?

grizindahouse · Post by **grizindahouse** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 10:42 am

Why is everyone so excited about Rolovich. Has anyone on here actually seen the kid play? I have not, and the kid may turn out to be pretty good. But to get excited over a kid that basically was dropped from a Hawaii squad, and had not seen near a second of on the field time, is not quite anything to get excited over.

wbtfg · Post by **wbtfg** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 10:45 am

grizindahouse wrote:Why is everyone so excited about Rolovich. Has anyone on here actually seen the kid play? I have not, and the kid may turn out to be pretty good. But to get excited over a kid that basically was dropped from a Hawaii squad, and had not seen near a second of on the field time, is not quite anything to get excited over.

Where do you see people becoming overly excited about Rolovich? I would love to see some evidence to back up your arguement. They should teach you how to do that at a such a fine liberal arts school.

Post by **SonomaCat** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 10:55 am

wbtfg wrote:
grizindahouse wrote:Why is everyone so excited about Rolovich. Has anyone on here actually seen the kid play? I have not, and the kid may turn out to be pretty good. But to get excited over a kid that basically was dropped from a Hawaii squad, and had not seen near a second of on the field time, is not quite anything to get excited over.
Where do you see people becoming overly excited about Rolovich? I would love to see some evidence to back up your arguement. They should teach you how to do that at a such a fine liberal arts school.

I think some Griz fans just naturally assume that if a guy's name comes up on a home town message board, that somewhere in the thread are ten posts proclaiming that home town person to be the best anywhere of all time. It's a conditioned response that people get when they hang out on boards about griz stuff.

iaafan · Post by **iaafan** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 10:57 am

Why is everyone so excited about Rolovich. Has anyone on here actually seen the kid play? I have not, and the kid may turn out to be pretty good. But to get excited over a kid that basically was dropped from a Hawaii squad, and had not seen near a second of on the field time, is not quite anything to get excited over.

After vomiting all over my keyboard at that post I did a quick bit of research. The two threads on Rolo are a combined 39 posts long and neither has been touched in about a week. The ones over on egriz on Swogger are up to almost 500 now and are continuing to spawn new threads. Six diff. threads on Swogger -- a guy who didn't complete 50% of his passes at WSU, has one year to play and has a history of injuries. There's even a thread on Swogger's dad! .... And now I have to vomit again.

grizindahouse · Post by **grizindahouse** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 10:57 am

Cat Pride wrote:Cats are in an ideal QB grooming situation. Carpenter/Rolovich are both capable of handling QB duties while Rassmussen can RS (unless he's good enough to beat those two out). If he RS, then he would be projected to start his RS-soph year. Whether or not the players actually pan out is another guess, but this is the ideal situation for QBs if you ask me.

By the way, Desin will get his fair shake at QB in August, but he is not going to play there very long. Safety/slot receiver is his future, and that future is bright for Mark

WBTG, I am not saying that people believe that Rolovich is going to be great, but does anyone even know enough to think that he is capable even.

grizindahouse · Post by **grizindahouse** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 10:58 am

iaafan wrote:
Why is everyone so excited about Rolovich. Has anyone on here actually seen the kid play? I have not, and the kid may turn out to be pretty good. But to get excited over a kid that basically was dropped from a Hawaii squad, and had not seen near a second of on the field time, is not quite anything to get excited over.
After vomiting all over my keyboard at that post I did a quick bit of research. The two threads on Rolo are a combined 39 posts long and neither has been touched in about a week. The ones over on egriz on Swogger are up to almost 500 now and are continuing to spawn new threads. Six diff. threads on Swogger -- a guy who didn't complete 50% of his passes at WSU, has one year to play and has a history of injuries. There's even a thread on Swogger's dad!

I am not here to pass propaganda on Swogger, or condone those that are. I was seriously wondering if anyone here knows anythng about Rolovich's game, other than he was at Hawaii, and his brother played QB there.

Post by **SonomaCat** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 11:02 am

grizindahouse wrote:
iaafan wrote:
Why is everyone so excited about Rolovich. Has anyone on here actually seen the kid play? I have not, and the kid may turn out to be pretty good. But to get excited over a kid that basically was dropped from a Hawaii squad, and had not seen near a second of on the field time, is not quite anything to get excited over.
After vomiting all over my keyboard at that post I did a quick bit of research. The two threads on Rolo are a combined 39 posts long and neither has been touched in about a week. The ones over on egriz on Swogger are up to almost 500 now and are continuing to spawn new threads. Six diff. threads on Swogger -- a guy who didn't complete 50% of his passes at WSU, has one year to play and has a history of injuries. There's even a thread on Swogger's dad!

I am not here to pass propaganda on Swogger, or condone those that are. I was seriously wondering if anyone here knows anythng about Rolovich's game, other than he was at Hawaii, and his brother played QB there.

Our lack of knowledge about the game probably correlates to the lack of posts displaying undue excitement about the guy. He's a QB who is coming in to compete with our current guys for the job.

iaafan · Post by **iaafan** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 11:05 am

Nope that's it -- other than he was a highly recruited QB out of HS in Calif. And that's exactly why no one is OVERLY excited about him. Excited as they would be about any other recruit, but certainly not OVERLY excited. Nothing has been said on this site to cause you to ask that question. It would be a good, and fitting, question to toss out at the egriz site regarding Swogger. Can you tell us why everyone is so excited about him? Seriously.

grizindahouse · Post by **grizindahouse** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 11:11 am

My take, they are desparate for a QB that can throw the ball. In the Griz situation, I do not think it was a bad move, but other than that, things will have to be proved on the field.

Cat Pride · Post by **Cat Pride** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 11:12 am

grizindahouse wrote:
Cat Pride wrote:Cats are in an ideal QB grooming situation. Carpenter/Rolovich are both capable of handling QB duties while Rassmussen can RS (unless he's good enough to beat those two out). If he RS, then he would be projected to start his RS-soph year. Whether or not the players actually pan out is another guess, but this is the ideal situation for QBs if you ask me.

By the way, Desin will get his fair shake at QB in August, but he is not going to play there very long. Safety/slot receiver is his future, and that future is bright for Mark
WBTG, I am not saying that people believe that Rolovich is going to be great, but does anyone even know enough to think that he is capable even.

Carpenter is capable, very capable, but if Rolo can beat him out, then he definitely has enough skills to get the Cats to compete for the conference championship. Nobody is annointing Rolo (unlike what eGrizzers are doing with Swooger), but we fully expect him to drive a healthy competition with Carps and Rass (and maybe even Larsen/Desin for a week or so).

Carpenter is good. He is vitually the same size as Lulay - scosh bigger (which is great size for the Big Sky). He has been in the system now for 3 years, so he knows the ins and outs of it and what is expected of him. He has the arm, as seen in scrimmages, but doesnt run like Travis did. We just dont know his leadership ability yet or how he will handle situations in a real game, but he has all the makings of being more than capable to step up to the challenge.

Nobody is claiming Carps or Rolo or Rass are going to be 1st team all conference in '06, but nobody is jumping off a bridge either. Confidence is high at the QB position next year for the Blue and Gold.

tetoncat · Post by **tetoncat** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 11:12 am

I for one believe that Kramer has had decent success in getting transfers. They do not all pan out but I think he feels Rolovich is someone that can at least give Carpenter some competition which will make him better than just competing against true freshmen.

catamaran · Post by **catamaran** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 11:13 am

grizindahouse
PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 10:11 am Post subject:
My take, they are desparate for a QB that can throw the ball. In the Griz situation, I do not think it was a bad move, but other than that, things will have to be proved on the field.

I believe the Griz might be the ones desparate for a QB to throw the ball

grizindahouse · Post by **grizindahouse** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 11:15 am

Catamaran, sorry, that is what I meant.

coachouert · Post by **coachouert** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 11:17 am

catamaran wrote:
grizindahouse
PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 10:11 am Post subject:
My take, they are desparate for a QB that can throw the ball. In the Griz situation, I do not think it was a bad move, but other than that, things will have to be proved on the field.
I believe the Griz might be the ones desparate for a QB to throw the ball

I thought the shovel pass was working well.

grizindahouse · Post by **grizindahouse** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 11:19 am

coachouert wrote:
catamaran wrote:
grizindahouse
PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 10:11 am Post subject:
My take, they are desparate for a QB that can throw the ball. In the Griz situation, I do not think it was a bad move, but other than that, things will have to be proved on the field.
I believe the Griz might be the ones desparate for a QB to throw the ball
I thought the shovel pass was working well.

I think the shovel pass is more of a long handoff, I mean, is it really more than an option pitch down the field!

coachouert · Post by **coachouert** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 11:26 am

grizindahouse wrote:
coachouert wrote:
catamaran wrote:
grizindahouse
PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 10:11 am Post subject:
My take, they are desparate for a QB that can throw the ball. In the Griz situation, I do not think it was a bad move, but other than that, things will have to be proved on the field.
I believe the Griz might be the ones desparate for a QB to throw the ball
I thought the shovel pass was working well.
I think the shovel pass is more of a long handoff, I mean, is it really more than an option pitch down the field!

I was being sarcastic. Sorry it fell a few feet short...just like most of Berquist's passes downfield. Hiya! Just kidding.

I'd agree that it isn't anything more then an option pitch, but it goes up in the pass column so I guess whatever.

I think it will be interesting to see what comes out of spring ball for both programs, especially since both are going in with a ton of questions at quarterback especially. I hope there is good competition out of Rolovich and Carpenter, but I'm putting my faith in Carpenter right now. I think he will be the starter and i think he will turn some heads in the big sky next year. As far as the Griz go, who knows. Swogger could do some great things, but I don't think we've seen the last of Berquist and Stapp could also be a player too.

CelticCat · Post by **CelticCat** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 11:34 am

Only thing I know about Rolovich is he can have a sweet nickname (Rolo), and if you were recruited to be QB at Hawaii, you must've been damn good in high school. I'm not saying that will translate onto the field, but Hawaii is a pass-pass-pass-punt offense.

I agree with other posters, competition is key here.

Whoever wins the job, Rolo or Carp, will put us in fine shape with Groves and Taito in the backfield.

2Cats · Post by **2Cats** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 11:51 am

El_Gato wrote:Scats,

So, we currently have Carpenter, Coppack, Rolovich, Desin, and now Rasmussen. Obviously Desin will redshirt, and no doubt Rasmussen will also. It's also been openly discussed that Desin may not play QB.

So, are you asking your OWN team your question?

Swogger, Washington, Bergquist, Stapp, and Selle. Only Selle can redshirt, meaning you will be looking at 4 active scholarship QB's next fall. Washington will no doubt quit/leave; that was obviously another of the genuis recruiting moves by Hauck, eh?

Gato,

Coppak will not be listed on the spring roster unless it's as a walk-on. The day after Rolovich committed, Kramer pulled Coppak's scholi.