Does our O-line suck?

Wolfman · Post by **Wolfman** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 11:40 am

The first year Hauck was here, he signed a couple of Montana kids who he projected as offensive linemen. One was Eric Micheal (sp), and I can't recall the other kid. Both were supoosed to be good athletes, but were very under-sized in high school as far as weight. I believe that Michael was about 6'6", 230 in high school.

These two kids have not panned out like Hauck had hoped. Michael played some this year, but was not really a factor. I think he weighs about 270 now, still too small for an O-lineman.

I really don't think the Griz O-line will be as good next year as it was this season, and, it was not very good this season.

The Griz D-line will be weaker too, with the loss of Saenz and Spencer.

These Griz fans who think we are loaded for next year are living a pipe dream. Our best players from this season are seniors, and will be gone.

Who will stop the run? Who will block for Hilliard? Who will catch passes? Who will throw passes?

There are more un-answered questions on the Griz than in any year in memory. Yes, my friends, Bobby Hauck has got the Griz on a fast train to nowhere. And, Cat fans are loving it. That's why none of 'em want Bobby to go anywhere. The tide has changed in Montana collegiate football, and the Griz sugar coaters haven't realized it yet.

BobcatLionFan · Post by **BobcatLionFan** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 11:42 am

longhorn_22 wrote:
Wolfman wrote:Are most of the Cats O-linemen Montana kids?
Yes.

Not exactly, More than UM, but not the majority.

Hirst - washington
Jensen - Calif
Veranlic - MT
Birkeland - MT
Lou - Calif

Hanson, who has a very good chance of starting is also MT.

This past year Bolton was ID, and Fig was CA.

On the flipside, UM had no Montana Starters.
Rhoades and Balogh were Washington
Marshall - Calif
Orwig - Kansas
Fink - ID

So more than UM, but not a majority.

longhorn_22 · Post by **longhorn_22** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 11:46 am

Beniger - Helena
Birkeland - Helena
DeCock - Harlowtown
Fjare - Big Timber
Hanson - Great Falls
Verlanic - Anaconda

Six O-Lineman from MT is quite a bit. Thats all I was saying. These are just the ones that have a shot next year.

canyoncat · Post by **canyoncat** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 12:19 pm

Don't forget Chris Smith from Laurel. I think he is going to play a ton for us next year.

GO CATS!!

wbtfg · Post by **wbtfg** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 12:22 pm

Also,

Adam Brockway (Miles City)
Michael Rogers (Whitehall)

longhorn_22 · Post by **longhorn_22** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 12:27 pm

canyoncat wrote:Don't forget Chris Smith from Laurel. I think he is going to play a ton for us next year.

GO CATS!!

He'll be a sophomore, which is why I didn't put him up there.

wbtfg · Post by **wbtfg** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 12:29 pm

longhorn_22 wrote:
canyoncat wrote:Don't forget Chris Smith from Laurel. I think he is going to play a ton for us next year.

GO CATS!!
He'll be a sophomore, which is why I didn't put him up there.

He's in the same class as Verlanic, Beniger, and Fajre who were all up there.

longhorn_22 · Post by **longhorn_22** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 1:10 pm

wbtfg wrote:
longhorn_22 wrote:
canyoncat wrote:Don't forget Chris Smith from Laurel. I think he is going to play a ton for us next year.

GO CATS!!
He'll be a sophomore, which is why I didn't put him up there.
He's in the same class as Verlanic, Beniger, and Fajre who were all up there.

They have more of a chance of starting than he does though.

wbtfg · Post by **wbtfg** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 1:18 pm

Fjare has more of a chance to start than Smith?????? I don't think so. I really expect to see smith giving both Birkeland and Saucedo a run for a starting guard spot.

BozoneCat · Post by **BozoneCat** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 1:29 pm

The guy I think has the best chance of breaking into the starting lineup is Jeff Hansen. I hear the kid was a stud on scout team this year, he was on redshirt alert all season long.

longhorn_22 · Post by **longhorn_22** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 2:04 pm

BozoneCat wrote:The guy I think has the best chance of breaking into the starting lineup is Jeff Hansen. I hear the kid was a stud on scout team this year, he was on redshirt alert all season long.

Jeff Hanson needs to gain more weight but, yes, I do agree with you. He is going to be awesome for us.

Wolfman · Post by **Wolfman** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 12:01 am

You mean that you Cat fans had to endure all of that bullsh*t from these pin heads about how the Griz were winning with "Montana kids", and the Cats were mostly "Out of Staters", when the entire starting O-line for Montana was from out-of-state????

Can you spell Hypocrite?

I apologize for some of my Griz fan bretheran. Forgive them, for they can not help themselves.

BobCatFan · Post by **BobCatFan** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 12:15 am

You forgot the new Glendive Kid, Person. This kid will be a stud. He might be redshirted next year, but I think he will be a four year starter.

grizindahouse · Post by **grizindahouse** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 12:16 am

Wolfman wrote:You mean that you Cat fans had to endure all of that bullsh*t from these pin heads about how the Griz were winning with "Montana kids", and the Cats were mostly "Out of Staters", when the entire starting O-line for Montana was from out-of-state????

Can you spell Hypocrite?

I apologize for some of my Griz fan bretheran. Forgive them, for they can not help themselves.

Wolfy, how could you possibly be a good, Knowledgeable Griz fan, when you do not even know where the starting O-line is from?

Wolfman · Post by **Wolfman** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 12:26 am

I know where the O-line is from. Are you familiar with the term "satire"?

grizindahouse · Post by **grizindahouse** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 12:33 am

Wolfman wrote:I know where the O-line is from. Are you familiar with the term "satire"?

With your many brash, abrasive posts, I did not realize you knew what satire was.

Wolfman · Post by **Wolfman** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:55 am

In-da-out-house, if you can't post better than that last one, may I suggest marthastewart.com?

Bleedinbluengold · Post by **Bleedinbluengold** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 2:28 pm

Wolfman wrote:The first year Hauck was here, he signed a couple of Montana kids who he projected as offensive linemen. One was Eric Micheal (sp), and I can't recall the other kid. Both were supoosed to be good athletes, but were very under-sized in high school as far as weight. I believe that Michael was about 6'6", 230 in high school.

Was it that Ryan kid from Billings? I can't remember if Ryan was OL or DL, but he was the protypical OL recruit for um...the guys who had height and a frame that could support almost 3 bills plus played hoops so had good feet.

It was the same year that BH gave partial scholly money to a bunch of Montana kids, and so he could then say he recruited MT. Not at all saying that these kids didn't have I-AA skills, but if they all panned out, then it would have gone down in history as the greatest of all Montana recruiting classes of all time.

BobcatLionFan · Post by **BobcatLionFan** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 4:00 pm

Bleedinbluengold wrote: he was the protypical OL recruit for um...the guys who had height and a frame that could support almost 3 bills plus played hoops so had good feet.

Actually sounds the same as MSU's list

Swaggert
Hirst
Jensen
(and now Hansen)

All fell out of this mold. Hirst and Jensen were less than 240 when they appeared at school. But all are tall, long arms, and had big frames. Also played multiple sports. True tackles.

Now guards and centers are the big lower body guys with an attitude (i.e. Figs and Bolton and Wolf and Quast?

cornbreadfred · Post by **cornbreadfred** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:44 pm

canyoncat wrote:Don't forget Chris Smith from Laurel. I think he is going to play a ton for us next year.

GO CATS!!

I heard Smith messes up a ton of line calls and reads in practice, needless to say, not many of the coaches or other players have much confidence in him