Tommy to the Raiders

[Helcat72]

I agree, and I still think the NFL will play out for Tommy, but maybe with some practice squads and team changes involved. I think the question is whether Tommy will decide that he'd rather be playing QB, and would he be able to play his way back to the NFL (maybe as a backup or 3rd QB, if not a starter) through the CFL. Also, QB is the highest paid position in the CFL, with starters making 300 - 500 K. But Dickenson may have Tommy pegged as short yardage QB, which might be less. Anyway, no guarantees with either path - Tommy just has to follow his heart.

I don't think Tommy would replace Vernon Adams anytime soon if he joined the Stampeders. I would think he'd be VA's understudy.

[RKMCMT]

I understand concerns over his arm strength, but no one will work harder than Tommy in trying to improve.

Forget arm strength. He's not even accurate enough.

Arm talent isn't something that you can fix by outworking guys. You can't put in what God left out.

Despite having close to a 70% completion mark, I agree with this. He often went with the wrong read or to the wrong receiver. It’s hard to be critical but that’s something that you’d think he would need to be better at as a pro.

It’s weird to me, this narrative has been going on for awhile and the stats simply don’t back that up. He was excellent across the board the last year and a half. I think it’s a reflection of his size and people coming up with every other reason to say he wasn’t a good enough passing QB. If he was two inches taller this wouldn’t even be a topic, he would have been drafted higher than Miller at QB.

You can't look at completion percentage, you have to look at the actual passes. An open receiver in the NFL is much less open than a receiver in college. The throwing windows are smaller and close much more quickly. If he's not throwing perfect passes in college, then those passes are probably not completions in the NFL. Tommy completed a lot of good-enough passes to wide open receivers. Really, the entire passing game was built around those looks. It was extremely productive, and part of the reason receivers were so open was Tommy's success as a runner. But offenses can't rely on good-enough passes or get receivers that open with that level of consistency.

There's a modern wave of NFL QBs building success without great accuracy by opening up the pass with their running ability. I think Tommy's major problem there is that his body isn't built to survive the NFL running like he did at MSU.

[BelligerentBobcat]

I understand concerns over his arm strength, but no one will work harder than Tommy in trying to improve.

Forget arm strength. He's not even accurate enough.

Arm talent isn't something that you can fix by outworking guys. You can't put in what God left out.

Despite having close to a 70% completion mark, I agree with this. He often went with the wrong read or to the wrong receiver. It’s hard to be critical but that’s something that you’d think he would need to be better at as a pro.

It’s weird to me, this narrative has been going on for awhile and the stats simply don’t back that up. He was excellent across the board the last year and a half. I think it’s a reflection of his size and people coming up with every other reason to say he wasn’t a good enough passing QB. If he was two inches taller this wouldn’t even be a topic, he would have been drafted higher than Miller at QB.

You can't look at completion percentage, you have to look at the actual passes. An open receiver in the NFL is much less open than a receiver in college. The throwing windows are smaller and close much more quickly. If he's not throwing perfect passes in college, then those passes are probably not completions in the NFL. Tommy completed a lot of good-enough passes to wide open receivers. Really, the entire passing game was built around those looks. It was extremely productive, and part of the reason receivers were so open was Tommy's success as a runner. But offenses can't rely on good-enough passes or get receivers that open with that level of consistency.

There's a modern wave of NFL QBs building success without great accuracy by opening up the pass with their running ability. I think Tommy's major problem there is that his body isn't built to survive the NFL running like he did at MSU.

Uhhh…who?

[RKMCMT]

I understand concerns over his arm strength, but no one will work harder than Tommy in trying to improve.

Forget arm strength. He's not even accurate enough.

Arm talent isn't something that you can fix by outworking guys. You can't put in what God left out.

Despite having close to a 70% completion mark, I agree with this. He often went with the wrong read or to the wrong receiver. It’s hard to be critical but that’s something that you’d think he would need to be better at as a pro.

It’s weird to me, this narrative has been going on for awhile and the stats simply don’t back that up. He was excellent across the board the last year and a half. I think it’s a reflection of his size and people coming up with every other reason to say he wasn’t a good enough passing QB. If he was two inches taller this wouldn’t even be a topic, he would have been drafted higher than Miller at QB.

You can't look at completion percentage, you have to look at the actual passes. An open receiver in the NFL is much less open than a receiver in college. The throwing windows are smaller and close much more quickly. If he's not throwing perfect passes in college, then those passes are probably not completions in the NFL. Tommy completed a lot of good-enough passes to wide open receivers. Really, the entire passing game was built around those looks. It was extremely productive, and part of the reason receivers were so open was Tommy's success as a runner. But offenses can't rely on good-enough passes or get receivers that open with that level of consistency.

There's a modern wave of NFL QBs building success without great accuracy by opening up the pass with their running ability. I think Tommy's major problem there is that his body isn't built to survive the NFL running like he did at MSU.

Uhhh…who?

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/101 ... p-favorite

NFL Coach: Lamar Jackson 'Still Not Naturally Accurate' Despite Odds-On MVP Favorite

[BelligerentBobcat]

I understand concerns over his arm strength, but no one will work harder than Tommy in trying to improve.

Forget arm strength. He's not even accurate enough.

Arm talent isn't something that you can fix by outworking guys. You can't put in what God left out.

Despite having close to a 70% completion mark, I agree with this. He often went with the wrong read or to the wrong receiver. It’s hard to be critical but that’s something that you’d think he would need to be better at as a pro.

It’s weird to me, this narrative has been going on for awhile and the stats simply don’t back that up. He was excellent across the board the last year and a half. I think it’s a reflection of his size and people coming up with every other reason to say he wasn’t a good enough passing QB. If he was two inches taller this wouldn’t even be a topic, he would have been drafted higher than Miller at QB.

You can't look at completion percentage, you have to look at the actual passes. An open receiver in the NFL is much less open than a receiver in college. The throwing windows are smaller and close much more quickly. If he's not throwing perfect passes in college, then those passes are probably not completions in the NFL. Tommy completed a lot of good-enough passes to wide open receivers. Really, the entire passing game was built around those looks. It was extremely productive, and part of the reason receivers were so open was Tommy's success as a runner. But offenses can't rely on good-enough passes or get receivers that open with that level of consistency.

There's a modern wave of NFL QBs building success without great accuracy by opening up the pass with their running ability. I think Tommy's major problem there is that his body isn't built to survive the NFL running like he did at MSU.

Uhhh…who?

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/101 ... p-favorite

NFL Coach: Lamar Jackson 'Still Not Naturally Accurate' Despite Odds-On MVP Favorite

That’s one, hardly a wave, and I flat disagree with the assertion that Lamar isn’t an accurate QB. He has improved dramatically from when he got into the league and always had a live arm.

[nanacat]

Tommy vs Junior on Saturday

Montanans Tommy Mellott, Junior Bergen to cross paths Saturday in NFL preseason - https://www.montanasports.com/more-spor ... -preseason

[RKMCMT]

I understand concerns over his arm strength, but no one will work harder than Tommy in trying to improve.

Forget arm strength. He's not even accurate enough.

Arm talent isn't something that you can fix by outworking guys. You can't put in what God left out.

Despite having close to a 70% completion mark, I agree with this. He often went with the wrong read or to the wrong receiver. It’s hard to be critical but that’s something that you’d think he would need to be better at as a pro.

It’s weird to me, this narrative has been going on for awhile and the stats simply don’t back that up. He was excellent across the board the last year and a half. I think it’s a reflection of his size and people coming up with every other reason to say he wasn’t a good enough passing QB. If he was two inches taller this wouldn’t even be a topic, he would have been drafted higher than Miller at QB.

You can't look at completion percentage, you have to look at the actual passes. An open receiver in the NFL is much less open than a receiver in college. The throwing windows are smaller and close much more quickly. If he's not throwing perfect passes in college, then those passes are probably not completions in the NFL. Tommy completed a lot of good-enough passes to wide open receivers. Really, the entire passing game was built around those looks. It was extremely productive, and part of the reason receivers were so open was Tommy's success as a runner. But offenses can't rely on good-enough passes or get receivers that open with that level of consistency.

There's a modern wave of NFL QBs building success without great accuracy by opening up the pass with their running ability. I think Tommy's major problem there is that his body isn't built to survive the NFL running like he did at MSU.

Uhhh…who?

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/101 ... p-favorite

NFL Coach: Lamar Jackson 'Still Not Naturally Accurate' Despite Odds-On MVP Favorite

That’s one, hardly a wave, and I flat disagree with the assertion that Lamar isn’t an accurate QB. He has improved dramatically from when he got into the league and always had a live arm.

You can say he has improved. But the dig on him is and always was the same. He slipped dramatically under the same argument that he didn't have 'NFL accuracy.' And Lamar's certainly not the only modern QB in this newer College offense mold, just the most successful.

Part of the reason throwing to open guys for the best QBs in college is easier is because it's much harder to hold tight coverages when you've got QBs flying all over the field.

[tetoncat]

I understand concerns over his arm strength, but no one will work harder than Tommy in trying to improve.

Forget arm strength. He's not even accurate enough.

Arm talent isn't something that you can fix by outworking guys. You can't put in what God left out.

Despite having close to a 70% completion mark, I agree with this. He often went with the wrong read or to the wrong receiver. It’s hard to be critical but that’s something that you’d think he would need to be better at as a pro.

It’s weird to me, this narrative has been going on for awhile and the stats simply don’t back that up. He was excellent across the board the last year and a half. I think it’s a reflection of his size and people coming up with every other reason to say he wasn’t a good enough passing QB. If he was two inches taller this wouldn’t even be a topic, he would have been drafted higher than Miller at QB.

You can't look at completion percentage, you have to look at the actual passes. An open receiver in the NFL is much less open than a receiver in college. The throwing windows are smaller and close much more quickly. If he's not throwing perfect passes in college, then those passes are probably not completions in the NFL. Tommy completed a lot of good-enough passes to wide open receivers. Really, the entire passing game was built around those looks. It was extremely productive, and part of the reason receivers were so open was Tommy's success as a runner. But offenses can't rely on good-enough passes or get receivers that open with that level of consistency.

There's a modern wave of NFL QBs building success without great accuracy by opening up the pass with their running ability. I think Tommy's major problem there is that his body isn't built to survive the NFL running like he did at MSU.

Uhhh…who?

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/101 ... p-favorite

NFL Coach: Lamar Jackson 'Still Not Naturally Accurate' Despite Odds-On MVP Favorite

That’s one, hardly a wave, and I flat disagree with the assertion that Lamar isn’t an accurate QB. He has improved dramatically from when he got into the league and always had a live arm.

You can say he has improved. But the dig on him is and always was the same. He slipped dramatically under the same argument that he didn't have 'NFL accuracy.' And Lamar's certainly not the only modern QB in this newer College offense mold, just the most successful.

Part of the reason throwing to open guys for the best QBs in college is easier is because it's much harder to hold tight coverages when you've got QBs flying all over the field.

There is also a difference in accuracy and arm talent or velocity. Lamar might not been as accurate as others but has plenty of pop and range.

[PapaG]

In no realistic scenario can one compare Lamar Jackson and Tommy Mellott as NFL QB prospects.

Come on.

[coloradocat]

In no realistic scenario can one compare Lamar Jackson and Tommy Mellott as NFL QB prospects.

Come on.

Tommy is clearly better.