PLayoff Possibilities

PDXKat · Post by **PDXKat** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 1:43 pm

I really don't get why if Portland wins out and finishes with the same record they should have a better shot than us. We beat them, right? We beat Colorado, they beat New Mexico, we lose to Chadron and they lose to Cal, we lose to Cal Davis and they lose to Oregon. On second thought, lets just win big this weekend first off, then go to waaagriz and kick their butts. Then, we're in.

Hell's Bells · Post by **Hell's Bells** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 1:51 pm

PDXKat wrote:I really don't get why if Portland wins out and finishes with the same record they should have a better shot than us. We beat them, right? We beat Colorado, they beat New Mexico, we lose to Chadron and they lose to Cal, we lose to Cal Davis and they lose to Oregon. .

Weltercat · Post by **Weltercat** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 1:51 pm

Go Scats Go wrote:
Cat in NC wrote:I also just don't see San Diego getting in. Sorry, but their ridiculous schedule just can't warrant a bid. Same thing Coastal Carolina went through a couple of years back. Not saying that this makes a difference for the Cats, I just don't buy the Torrero hype when their only halfway "quality" win was against Yale and (in order to play in the playoffs) they'd have to cancel their only other quality game against Cal-Davis, which is scheduled for the same day as playoff round 1.
If they are 10-0 and in the top 12 how can you keep them out???

ANSWER: You cant!!!!

I agree, San Diego will most definitly be there if they are 10-0.

WalkOn79 · Post by **WalkOn79** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 1:53 pm

Not accorning to Matt Dougherty (Sp)

WalkOn79 · Post by **WalkOn79** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 1:54 pm

WalkOn79 wrote:Not according to Matt Dougherty (Sp)

Wow! my fingers don't work today.

Hell's Bells · Post by **Hell's Bells** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 1:55 pm

WalkOn79 wrote:
WalkOn79 wrote:Not according to Matt Dougherty (Sp)
Wow! my fingers don't work today.

that means they will get in

Eastcoastgriz · Post by **Eastcoastgriz** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 2:02 pm

old wise one wrote:For starters, Scats, do some research please.

This is the year where a 7-4 team may get in, but it won't be the Cats. (Maybe PSU.) The Cats are too low in the GPI(which is a good indicator for playoff inclusion). It may be a Youngstown St, if they lose their last two to S. Ill and W. KY. Or Cal Poly, should they lose both to the Griz, and NDSU. The reason I see this scenario, is there just won't be enough eligible teams with records of 8-3 or better.

The one positive about the Cats beating Colorado, and losing to Chadron, is they can get the necessary 7 Div I wins with a record of 7-4, while others cannot, because one of their 7 wins was against a DII. So in a fluke scenario, they have a slim chance at 7-4(but very, very, unlikely). At this point, I think the committee would include a 10-0 San Diego, before a 7-4 MSU. Which by the way, the Torreros have no shot at post season.

Since I told you to do some research Scats, I will provide mine for you, to back my words up. In this scenario, I am being optomistic with the Cats winning the next two.

A-10
JMU(auto) 10-1
Umass 9-2
New Hampshire 9-2 with a big win over UMASS and 2 road wins to finish the season

Bubble teams: The winner of the Towson/Richmond game in two weeks

Big Sky

Montana 10-1

Gateway
No. Iowa (auto) 7-4, by virtue of tiebreaker of tiebreaker with 3 other teams.
YSU 8-3
Ill. St. 8-3

Bubble team: So. Ill (8-3, but only 4-3 in conference with non-con wins over Lock Haven and Ark Pine Bluff, so they are the odd team out.)

Great West
Cal Poly 8-3 (at large spot with loss to Griz and win over NDSU to end the season).

MEAC
Hampton (auto) 10-1

Bubble team: Deleware St. 9-2 (very questionable but the committee always seems to throw one of these teams in there.)

Ohio Valley
Tenn-Martin

Patriot
Either Holy Cross/Lehigh/Lafayette get the auto, and it's a 1 bid league. Too many tiebreaking scenarios to sort out.

Southland
McNeese St (auto) 7-4(if they win the last 3, but they still seem to be the best shot at this point).

Southern
App St. (auto) 10-1

Bubble team: Furman(they must win both remaining games, at Elon, vs. GA. So., to finish 8-3. If they do, they are in).

That's 15 teams as I see it counting two more Furman wins. One remaining spot from the list below(listed according to this weeks GPI ranking), and I will let the nation decide who it should be?

San Diego 10-0
So. Ill 8-3
Portland St. 7-4
Richmond/Towson winner 8-3, or Towson could be 9-2, which would be my 16th team.
Coastal Carolina 9-2
Deleware St 9-2

If Furman loses one, then I definitely see a posibility of a 7-4 at large team:

Fixed it for you

old wise one · Post by **old wise one** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 4:24 pm

Eastcoast,

If the Griz go 10-1, with the schedule you have left, I will definitely take my hat off to you, as that would be impressive. But as was pointed out earlier, that in no way does any Griz fan believe they will lose their last two games at home, I would venture to bet that it is also almost as improbable for them to win both at home and go 10-1. 9-2 sounds about right, I just hope the loss is to the Cats. However, I said it here first, Griz will be 8-3 after we beat them.

I truly believe Cal Poly will win the game this weekend, and then the Brawl is any body's guess, I just am predicting a Cat victory.

I guess we agree to disagree.

Post by **SonomaCat** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 4:30 pm

As a humble request, can we please cease with all "fixed it for you" edits to people's posts on all boards outside of the smack board (where we really don't care what you do)? In a serious (meaning non-smack -- I'm not suggesting that anything in here is exactly curing cancer or anything) conversion, it really makes things confusing.

I'm not trying to call this one out in particular ... but rather just saying it now as I've seen it a few other times as well ... and would rather we see less rather than more of that sort of thing.

CelticCat · Post by **CelticCat** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 4:38 pm

Every year there is one or two 7-4 teams that think they deserve to be in the playoffs, and sometimes they do. But history has shown us time and time again it will not happen.

We would have to have a ton of upsets in the top 25 so a bunch of teams finish with 3-4 losses.

Simply put, win the next two and were in, possibly hosting 1 game.

Bleedinbluengold · Post by **Bleedinbluengold** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 6:09 pm

Cal Poly simply won't win in Missoula this year, and they will get crushed even worse by NDSU. They'll probably still get an at-large just because the committee will probably want to have 1 team represent the Great West in the playoffs.

I agree that the griz won't lose 2 in a row at home - I think they beat Cal Poly by 3 touchdowns...

The Cats have no choice. Every week is a playoff game.

I think the EWU loss was a worse loss than Chadron....by far.

Eastcoastgriz · Post by **Eastcoastgriz** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 6:37 pm

old wise one wrote:Eastcoast,

If the Griz go 10-1, with the schedule you have left, I will definitely take my hat off to you, as that would be impressive. But as was pointed out earlier, that in no way does any Griz fan believe they will lose their last two games at home, I would venture to bet that it is also almost as improbable for them to win both at home and go 10-1. 9-2 sounds about right, I just hope the loss is to the Cats. However, I said it here first, Griz will be 8-3 after we beat them. I truly believe Cal Poly will win the game this weekend, and then the Brawl is any body's guess, I just am predicting a Cat victory. I guess we agree to disagree.

I am very confident going into the game this weekend. I will be very surprised if we lose. I truly believe the Griz will end the season 10-1

WalkOn79 · Post by **WalkOn79** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 7:13 pm

I hope you're right on the first part, and I hope NDSU kick their behinds next. I also hope NAU knocks PSU out of the race, and upsets abound across the country. We might need all the help we can get to get in.

MSU01 · Post by **MSU01** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 7:14 pm

Bleedinbluengold wrote:Cal Poly simply won't win in Missoula this year, and they will get crushed even worse by NDSU. They'll probably still get an at-large just because the committee will probably want to have 1 team represent the Great West in the playoffs.

I agree that the griz won't lose 2 in a row at home - I think they beat Cal Poly by 3 touchdowns...

The Cats have no choice. Every week is a playoff game.

I think the EWU loss was a worse loss than Chadron....by far.

If Poly loses to UM and NDSU, no way they get an at large bid...They would be 7-4 with only 6 D-1 wins. I think the Griz beat Poly this week in a very close game...EWU was definitely the worst loss for us. Beat them and we would have been able to all but lock up a playoff berth this weekend against UNC.

DaGriz · Post by **DaGriz** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 8:03 pm

Bleedinbluengold wrote:Cal Poly simply won't win in Missoula this year, and they will get crushed even worse by NDSU. They'll probably still get an at-large just because the committee will probably want to have 1 team represent the Great West in the playoffs.

I agree that the griz won't lose 2 in a row at home - I think they beat Cal Poly by 3 touchdowns...

The Cats have no choice. Every week is a playoff game.

I think the EWU loss was a worse loss than Chadron....by far.

I agree with that. I'm more concerned with the Cats than Cal Poly. I think we'll role Poly, actually struggle with UNC (we'll possibly over look them and they will keep it close into the 4th before we pull away) and then I think the Cat game will be a defensive nail biter that comes down to a field goal or special teams return for a TD. Team with the least mistakes wins.

Go Scats Go · Post by **Go Scats Go** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 12:07 pm

Go Scats Go wrote:
anacondagriz wrote:The Ivy League does not allow their football teams to participate in post-season play so they are ineligible. Also South Dakota St & North Dakota St. are still ineligible because they are "in transition".
Ivy changed their rules- And they now let them in.

The Dakotas are eligible in 2008- so you are correct.

I still however to not see the cats or PSU getting in with 4 L's- Just is not going to happen.

I Stand Corrected. The Ivy schools voted on it in March and agreed that they wanted to be in the playoffs. However, when the school presidents met they refused to sign off on the idea. Alot of pissed people in the Ivy schools. Why they are in every other playoff and not football is beyond belief.

Sorry for the confusion, just remember the March agreement and did not know that the Ivy predidents were such TOOLS.

LuvMaroon · Post by **LuvMaroon** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 12:54 pm

longhorn_22 wrote:
LuvMaroon wrote:
old wise one wrote:For starters, Scats, do some research please.

This is the year where a 7-4 team may get in, but it won't be the Cats. (Maybe PSU.) The Cats are too low in the GPI(which is a good indicator for playoff inclusion). It may be a Youngstown St, if they lose their last two to S. Ill and W. KY. Or Cal Poly, should they lose both to the Griz, and NDSU. The reason I see this scenario, is there just won't be enough eligible teams with records of 8-3 or better.

The one positive about the Cats beating Colorado, and losing to Chadron, is they can get the necessary 7 Div I wins with a record of 7-4, while others cannot, because one of their 7 wins was against a DII. So in a fluke scenario, they have a slim chance at 7-4(but very, very, unlikely). At this point, I think the committee would include a 10-0 San Diego, before a 7-4 MSU. Which by the way, the Torreros have no shot at post season.

Since I told you to do some research Scats, I will provide mine for you, to back my words up. In this scenario, I am being optomistic with the Cats winning the next two.

A-10
JMU(auto) 10-1
Umass 9-2
New Hampshire 9-2 with a big win over UMASS and 2 road wins to finish the season

Bubble teams: The winner of the Towson/Richmond game in two weeks

Big Sky
MSU (auto) 8-3
Montana 8-3

Gateway
No. Iowa (auto) 7-4, by virtue of tiebreaker of tiebreaker with 3 other teams.
YSU 8-3
Ill. St. 8-3

Bubble team: So. Ill (8-3, but only 4-3 in conference with non-con wins over Lock Haven and Ark Pine Bluff, so they are the odd team out.)

Great West
Cal Poly 8-3 (at large spot with win over Griz and loss to NDSU to end the season).

MEAC
Hampton (auto) 10-1

Bubble team: Deleware St. 9-2 (very questionable but the committee always seems to throw one of these teams in there.)

Ohio Valley
Tenn-Martin

Patriot
Either Holy Cross/Lehigh/Lafayette get the auto, and it's a 1 bid league. Too many tiebreaking scenarios to sort out.

Southland
McNeese St (auto) 7-4(if they win the last 3, but they still seem to be the best shot at this point).

Southern
App St. (auto) 10-1

Bubble team: Furman(they must win both remaining games, at Elon, vs. GA. So., to finish 8-3. If they do, they are in).

That's 15 teams as I see it counting two more Furman wins. One remaining spot from the list below(listed according to this weeks GPI ranking), and I will let the nation decide who it should be?

San Diego 10-0
So. Ill 8-3
Portland St. 7-4
Richmond/Towson winner 8-3, or Towson could be 9-2, which would be my 16th team.
Coastal Carolina 9-2
Deleware St 9-2

If Furman loses one, then I definitely see a posibility of a 7-4 at large team:

You are crazy if you think the Griz will lose 2 home games in a row. Not gonna' happen. I understand you backing your Cats and expecting them to win the game, but the Griz are way too good to lose 2 home games in a row!!!
Then make them 9-2. Either way, they lose to the Cats on the 18th.

Doubt it!!!!

Post by **SonomaCat** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 1:18 pm

Go Scats Go wrote:
Go Scats Go wrote:
anacondagriz wrote:The Ivy League does not allow their football teams to participate in post-season play so they are ineligible. Also South Dakota St & North Dakota St. are still ineligible because they are "in transition".
Ivy changed their rules- And they now let them in.

The Dakotas are eligible in 2008- so you are correct.

I still however to not see the cats or PSU getting in with 4 L's- Just is not going to happen.
I Stand Corrected. The Ivy schools voted on it in March and agreed that they wanted to be in the playoffs. However, when the school presidents met they refused to sign off on the idea. Alot of pissed people in the Ivy schools. Why they are in every other playoff and not football is beyond belief.

Sorry for the confusion, just remember the March agreement and did not know that the Ivy predidents were such TOOLS.

Who exactly voted in favor of it? The coaches? The fans?

Since the Presidents are the only ones that have any power, the other vote must have been purely symbolic.

theblackgecko · Post by **theblackgecko** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 3:26 pm

Bay Area Cat wrote:
Go Scats Go wrote:
Go Scats Go wrote:
anacondagriz wrote:The Ivy League does not allow their football teams to participate in post-season play so they are ineligible. Also South Dakota St & North Dakota St. are still ineligible because they are "in transition".
Ivy changed their rules- And they now let them in.

The Dakotas are eligible in 2008- so you are correct.

I still however to not see the cats or PSU getting in with 4 L's- Just is not going to happen.
I Stand Corrected. The Ivy schools voted on it in March and agreed that they wanted to be in the playoffs. However, when the school presidents met they refused to sign off on the idea. Alot of pissed people in the Ivy schools. Why they are in every other playoff and not football is beyond belief.

Sorry for the confusion, just remember the March agreement and did not know that the Ivy predidents were such TOOLS.
Who exactly voted in favor of it? The coaches? The fans?

Since the Presidents are the only ones that have any power, the other vote must have been purely symbolic.

Can you throw up a link to this story?

There's a real good reason the Ivies don't want into the playoffs. If they were in there, everyone would know how much Ivy football sucks.

Go Scats Go · Post by **Go Scats Go** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 7:21 am

Bay Area Cat wrote:
Go Scats Go wrote:
Go Scats Go wrote:
anacondagriz wrote:The Ivy League does not allow their football teams to participate in post-season play so they are ineligible. Also South Dakota St & North Dakota St. are still ineligible because they are "in transition".
Ivy changed their rules- And they now let them in.

The Dakotas are eligible in 2008- so you are correct.

I still however to not see the cats or PSU getting in with 4 L's- Just is not going to happen.
I Stand Corrected. The Ivy schools voted on it in March and agreed that they wanted to be in the playoffs. However, when the school presidents met they refused to sign off on the idea. Alot of pissed people in the Ivy schools. Why they are in every other playoff and not football is beyond belief.

Sorry for the confusion, just remember the March agreement and did not know that the Ivy predidents were such TOOLS.
Who exactly voted in favor of it? The coaches? The fans?

Since the Presidents are the only ones that have any power, the other vote must have been purely symbolic.

The students with the coaches endorsments
http://www.dailyprincetonian.com/archiv ... 4846.shtml

Also http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=512244

http://www.dailyprincetonian.com/archiv ... 4877.shtml