No Re-entry

[Cataholic]

If teams were scoring more in the 3Q than any other quarter of the game, you'd have a point. But our box scores from the past 3 years say otherwise.

2024: https://msubobcats.com/sports/football/schedule/2024
2023: https://msubobcats.com/sports/football/schedule/2023
2022: https://msubobcats.com/sports/football/schedule/2022

Most of the scoring incidences happen either in blowouts, or after MSU had already scored in the 3Q. It does not matter, now let us drink and socialize in peace.

Long live re-entry

Agreed, and I say this as a fan who never leaves the stadium from kickoff until the final whistle no matter how lopsided the score. It simply doesn't matter. Enjoy the game how you want and mind your own business about how others enjoy it. What's next, fan police roving through the crowd chastising fans who don't make noise on defensive third downs or clap along with the fight song after a touchdown?

I guess Eck and Vigen have no idea what they are talking about. You should reach out to them and let them know.

[wbtfg]

If teams were scoring more in the 3Q than any other quarter of the game, you'd have a point. But our box scores from the past 3 years say otherwise.

2024: https://msubobcats.com/sports/football/schedule/2024
2023: https://msubobcats.com/sports/football/schedule/2023
2022: https://msubobcats.com/sports/football/schedule/2022

Most of the scoring incidences happen either in blowouts, or after MSU had already scored in the 3Q. It does not matter, now let us drink and socialize in peace.

Long live re-entry

Agreed, and I say this as a fan who never leaves the stadium from kickoff until the final whistle no matter how lopsided the score. It simply doesn't matter. Enjoy the game how you want and mind your own business about how others enjoy it. What's next, fan police roving through the crowd chastising fans who don't make noise on defensive third downs or clap along with the fight song after a touchdown?

Ha. Seriously. I don’t need people telling me how to be a fan. How about we all just mind our own damn business and let people be a fan the way they want to be a fan. It’s more fun that way.

[BgCATfan]

We still get to play 11 players on D in the 3rd right?

So you’re saying that players don’t feed off of energy from the crowd?
What do you think creates a home field advantage in the first place?
Smaller crowd could mean less energy to feed off of for the players and could make the difference in the outcome of a drive which could affect the outcome of the game.

[94VegasCat]

I guess the way I see it is that I pay for my seat and as long as I’m not breaking any rules, I’ll participate my fandom my way.

I tend to be a chunky old man that doesn’t want to waddle all the way out to my tailgate spot. I’ve typically consumed enough ‘cheer juice’ to get me well into the third quarter before I even entered the stadium.

[Nickisch]

If teams were scoring more in the 3Q than any other quarter of the game, you'd have a point. But our box scores from the past 3 years say otherwise.

2024: https://msubobcats.com/sports/football/schedule/2024
2023: https://msubobcats.com/sports/football/schedule/2023
2022: https://msubobcats.com/sports/football/schedule/2022

Most of the scoring incidences happen either in blowouts, or after MSU had already scored in the 3Q. It does not matter, now let us drink and socialize in peace.

Long live re-entry

Agreed, and I say this as a fan who never leaves the stadium from kickoff until the final whistle no matter how lopsided the score. It simply doesn't matter. Enjoy the game how you want and mind your own business about how others enjoy it. What's next, fan police roving through the crowd chastising fans who don't make noise on defensive third downs or clap along with the fight song after a touchdown?

I guess Eck and Vigen have no idea what they are talking about. You should reach out to them and let them know.

I can't speak for either or them, but I would imagine that what they are saying to their players in the locker room and the adjustments coaches are making have much more to do with the scoring than how many fans return back to the stadium on time.

[MSU01]

If teams were scoring more in the 3Q than any other quarter of the game, you'd have a point. But our box scores from the past 3 years say otherwise.

2024: https://msubobcats.com/sports/football/schedule/2024
2023: https://msubobcats.com/sports/football/schedule/2023
2022: https://msubobcats.com/sports/football/schedule/2022

Most of the scoring incidences happen either in blowouts, or after MSU had already scored in the 3Q. It does not matter, now let us drink and socialize in peace.

Long live re-entry

Agreed, and I say this as a fan who never leaves the stadium from kickoff until the final whistle no matter how lopsided the score. It simply doesn't matter. Enjoy the game how you want and mind your own business about how others enjoy it. What's next, fan police roving through the crowd chastising fans who don't make noise on defensive third downs or clap along with the fight song after a touchdown?

I guess Eck and Vigen have no idea what they are talking about. You should reach out to them and let them know.

Here's the result of the opening drive of the second half for all MSU home games since 2021:

2021 vs Drake: Drake Punt
2021 vs San Diego: MSU TD
2021 vs UNC: UNC Punt
2021 vs Poly: MSU missed FG
2021 vs ISU: ISU FG
2021 vs Idaho: MSU turnover on downs
2021 vs UTM: MSU FG
2021 vs SDSU: SDSU Punt

2022 vs McNeese: MSU FG
2022 vs Morehead: Morehead Punt
2022 vs UCD: MSU Punt
2022 vs ISU: MSU Punt
2022 vs Weber: Weber safety on bad punt snap
2022 vs UM: UM Punt
2022 vs Weber: MSU FG
2022 vs W&M: MSU TD

2023 vs Utah Tech: UTU Punt
2023 vs Stetson: MSU Fumble
2023 vs PSU: PSU Punt
2023 vs Poly: Poly missed FG
2023 vs NAU: NAU Punt
2023 vs EWU: MSU TD
2023 vs NDSU: NDSU TD

2024 vs Maine: MSU Fumble
2024 vs Mercyhurst: Mercyhurst Punt
2024 vs UNC: MSU Punt

26 home games, 13 of those drives MSU had the ball, and the 13 opponent drives have resulted in 10 punts, 1 missed FG, and 2 scoring drives for 10 total points. 0.38 points per game. Vigen and Eck can do their jobs without me contacting them but game results don't suggest it matters.

[cat22[2010]]

After seeing the responses on this thread, I better never again see on this forum people commenting on another teams lack of crowd at their games. Afterall, attending the game is more of a social thing right? Those fans must have just found somewhere else to be social.

[wbtfg]

After seeing the responses on this thread, I better never again see on this forum people commenting on another teams lack of crowd at their games. Afterall, attending the game is more of a social thing right? Those fans must have just found somewhere else to be social.

You going to write them a ticket?

[allcat]

If teams were scoring more in the 3Q than any other quarter of the game, you'd have a point. But our box scores from the past 3 years say otherwise.

2024: https://msubobcats.com/sports/football/schedule/2024
2023: https://msubobcats.com/sports/football/schedule/2023
2022: https://msubobcats.com/sports/football/schedule/2022

Most of the scoring incidences happen either in blowouts, or after MSU had already scored in the 3Q. It does not matter, now let us drink and socialize in peace.

Long live re-entry

Agreed, and I say this as a fan who never leaves the stadium from kickoff until the final whistle no matter how lopsided the score. It simply doesn't matter. Enjoy the game how you want and mind your own business about how others enjoy it. What's next, fan police roving through the crowd chastising fans who don't make noise on defensive third downs or clap along with the fight song after a touchdown?

You ignore all of the visiting coaches saying it makes a difference. Eck laid it out. Why do the visiting teams want to be in the South end to start the second half? This has been the same story for years. I don't see anybody changing what they are doing, but the opposing coaches have been saying the same thing for years.

[cat22[2010]]

After seeing the responses on this thread, I better never again see on this forum people commenting on another teams lack of crowd at their games. Afterall, attending the game is more of a social thing right? Those fans must have just found somewhere else to be social.

You going to write them a ticket?

Nope. Enjoy your half time tailgate, I will make sure that I am in my seat Saturday at the beginning of the 3rd. The 4hrs before the game is enough tailgating for me. But I hope you all enjoy yourselves! Have a blessed day everyone! Go Cats!

[Bocephus]

We still get to play 11 players on D in the 3rd right?

So you’re saying that players don’t feed off of energy from the crowd?
What do you think creates a home field advantage in the first place?
Smaller crowd could mean less energy to feed off of for the players and could make the difference in the outcome of a drive which could affect the outcome of the game.

Oh they definitely do, even if the stadium is half full for the first Idaho drive, that’s 11k. Anyone who was at the Furman playoff game knows that’s enough to carry the torch while our peers finish their beverage.

[wbtfg]

After seeing the responses on this thread, I better never again see on this forum people commenting on another teams lack of crowd at their games. Afterall, attending the game is more of a social thing right? Those fans must have just found somewhere else to be social.

You going to write them a ticket?

Nope. Enjoy your half time tailgate, I will make sure that I am in my seat Saturday at the beginning of the 3rd. The 4hrs before the game is enough tailgating for me. But I hope you all enjoy yourselves! Have a blessed day everyone! Go Cats!

That’s the spirit.

[The Butcher]

Never fails. I have a tailgate, go out at half, and make it back before the kick off, and I don’t give two ****** if some people don’t. It’s their choice and they are usually the ones spending a lot of their money on MSU athletics, so yeah let’s implement that rule.

Fully agree!

[The Butcher]

We still get to play 11 players on D in the 3rd right?

The problem is the 11th player is usually still at the tailgate...

[RUACAT]

The Cats and Idaho have played 4 times since 2016.

9/1/16 - Away (20-17 Idaho)
10/13/18 - Home (24-23 Cats)
11/13/21 - Home (20-13 Cats)
10/28/23 - Away (24-21 Idaho)

In 2018, Idaho scored a FG with 8:41 left in the 3rd. (MSU scored TD with 6:46 and 2:45 remaining)
In 2021, Idaho scored a FG with 2:35 left in the 3rd.

Not exactly the advantage I was expecting from Eck's comments

[tetoncat]

Never fails. I have a tailgate, go out at half, and make it back before the kick off, and I don’t give two ****** if some people don’t. It’s their choice and they are usually the ones spending a lot of their money on MSU athletics, so yeah let’s implement that rule.

This. Tickets are expensive. Hotels are expensive. Tailgating spots are expensive. Gas is expensive. If people are willing to incur these costs to go to a game, they are sure as hell entitled to be ten minutes late from halftime.

And the fans that choose to stay in stadium deserve that as well. They shouldn't have to be getting up and down to accommodate those early leaving and late arriving fans while trying to watch the game. Everyone is entitled to their own experience based in what I read here.

[The Butcher]

The Cats and Idaho have played 4 times since 2016.

9/1/16 - Away (20-17 Idaho)
10/13/18 - Home (24-23 Cats)
11/13/21 - Home (20-13 Cats)
10/28/23 - Away (24-21 Idaho)

In 2018, Idaho scored a FG with 8:41 left in the 3rd. (MSU scored TD with 6:46 and 2:45 remaining)
In 2021, Idaho scored a FG with 2:35 left in the 3rd.

Not exactly the advantage I was expecting from Eck's comments

One thing that really frustrates me about the Cats' website is the lack of game history before 2016. According to the site, we're 6-6 all-time against the Griz, but where's the rest of the data? They should have an intern over the summer compile the Cats' game scores throughout the entire history of the program!

[cats2506]

I'm all for saying get back in for the start of the third, also stay until the end, even in a blowout. But I enjoy going out for a beer and talking with other fans about the game and checking in on other games too. I usually make it back in time but sometimes its a couple minutes into the 3rd before I do. You are free to call be a bad fan when I am late, I really don't care if you do.

If they sell beer in the stadium and let us drink in the stands I would accept no re-entry. They do that at SDSU and last fall it was great being able to have a beer during the game, but in all honesty I probably missed more of the game going to get another beer than I would have at Bobcat Stadium.

[RUACAT]

The Cats and Idaho have played 4 times since 2016.

9/1/16 - Away (20-17 Idaho)
10/13/18 - Home (24-23 Cats)
11/13/21 - Home (20-13 Cats)
10/28/23 - Away (24-21 Idaho)

In 2018, Idaho scored a FG with 8:41 left in the 3rd. (MSU scored TD with 6:46 and 2:45 remaining)
In 2021, Idaho scored a FG with 2:35 left in the 3rd.

Not exactly the advantage I was expecting from Eck's comments

One thing that really frustrates me about the Cats' website is the lack of game history before 2016. According to the site, we're 6-6 all-time against the Griz, but where's the rest of the data? They should have an intern over the summer compile the Cats' game scores throughout the entire history of the program!

Agreed. Heck, I'd be willing to assist. Have done data entry most of my life. Might as well apply it toward something enjoyable.

[ilovethecats]

This is always such a funny topic. Same thing year after year.

Eck never said what an advantage it is. He simply said he hopes we still allow halftime tailgating because the "quietest" it is in there is the first few minutes of the third. And he's right. Our stadium is packed and it's loud. It's not like it's quiet in the 3rd. It's just quietER. And as the stats pointed out, it hasn't resulted in the visiting team scoring much. And it's still loud. It's not like the stadium is empty! Much ado about nothing. The place will be rocking all night, and will still be loud in the 3rd quarter.

My biggest gripe when this topic comes up is where does it end. If people are bad fans because their late to their seat in the 3rd; what else makes them a bad fan? Are they a bad fan when they leave during the game to get food for their kids? Bad fans for waiting in a bathroom line for 20 minutes? Are fans that choose to sit during the game worse than the super fans that stand? Are you a bad fan if you don't scream your face off all game? Do we enforce rules that all fans need to stand all game, jump up and down all game, scream and clap nonstop?

We're lucky we have the fanbase we do. I don't see a need to make this a bigger deal than it is. And I can assure you that if Waded, Leon and Vigen were convinced without a shadow of a doubt that a full stadium in the 3rd had an impact on the final score, no re-entry would already be implemented! We'll be just fine. Place will be loud. I guess I'd just encourage all those in their seats for kickoff to help out your fellow Cat fan and just scream a little louder and jump around a little heavier.