Jeff Larson

gtapp · Post by **gtapp** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 9:09 am

JahGriz wrote:23 is right. Grey shirt is basically putting a kid off for a year, I-A's do it all the time. You pay for school for a year, then can get a scholarship your second year and still redshirt in many cases.
That is how the Griz got Balough, UW wanted to grey shirt him, then redshirt him, he didn't want to wait a minimum of two years to see the field. The QB that backed out of his verbal to the Griz, Cole Morgan gray shirted at Wazzu instead of coming to the Griz.
It would be great if he accepted a grey shirt for the Griz, but I don't see it happening when others want him right away.

Murphy was a Grey shirt!

BobcatLionFan · Post by **BobcatLionFan** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 1:31 pm

twentythreeOh4 wrote:
BobcatLionFan wrote:
Grey shirt doesn't have anything to do with academics, that's a prop48. Grey shirts were designed for kids who are injured in high school and need extra time to rehab -- although I think the definition of injury can be pretty loosely interpreted. Basically a grey shirt player has to enroll in school and pay their own way in the fall, they are not part of the team. They join the team as a freshman in January and can then get scholarship aid.

I was wrong with the academic thing, (I've heard it used for that reason, but you are right there), but also it has nothing to do with injury. However, if you have documentation, Would love to see where it says anything about injury in the rules, really interested. Injury??

The official NCAA definition is "Grayshirt - A student who is recruited out of high school, but who delays full-time enrollment in college for a term or terms" Refer to NCAA guidelines

http://www.ncaa.org/library/general/cbs ... 6_cbsa.pdf

Another item on it was out of Penn State: Grayshirting is a growing trend in Division I-A college football, where a high school graduate who signed a national letter of intent with a school delays his enrollment until January, when his school has a scholarship open.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/04175/336313.stm

Grayshirts are allowed to take classes as part-time students.

According to the NCAA, grayshirts must also abide by other rules: no practicing with the team, no supervised workouts with coaches and no watching practice, unless their school has practices open to the general public.

As with Hoff, they cannot take a full load. They still do maintain 4 years of eligibility.

(No mention of injury in High School however).

BigSkyCat · Post by **BigSkyCat** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 9:56 pm

According to a friend from Cut Bank who talked to Larson's dad this weekend, it is down to MSU and Wyoming. Kramer was up for a visit last week and is very interested but has not decided if they will offer a half or full ride scholarship. It could depend on who else they sign. Joe Glenn has been very interested and in contact with the family. Not sure if he has made a formal offer or not. Larson's preference is MSU but obviously he would like a full ride.

longhorn_22 · Post by **longhorn_22** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 10:02 pm

BigSkyCat wrote:According to a friend from Cut Bank who talked to Larson's dad this weekend, it is down to MSU and Wyoming. Kramer was up for a visit last week and is very interested but has not decided if they will offer a half or full ride scholarship. It could depend on who else they sign. Joe Glenn has been very interested and in contact with the family. Not sure if he has made a formal offer or not. Larson's preference is MSU but obviously he would like a full ride.

Kramer better get on the ball and offer him a full ride. He missed out on Selle and he better not miss him.

Bleedinbluengold · Post by **Bleedinbluengold** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 2:42 pm

VictorG wrote:
JahGriz wrote:I just think Larson has a higher ceiling than Selle. Though I hope I'm wrong.
I've never seen Selle play but I do know some coaches who have coached against him and they say he has a cannon for an arm. Word is he can chuck that ball 70 yards and for a HS kid that's not bad at all. Now I know arm strength is only part of the QB equation but arm strength is one of the thing that cannot be taught!

Agreed - you can't teach arm strength, but you can teach throwing mechanics, which directly relates to how far and accurate one can throw. Anyway, I think Selle has very good potential at QB. He won't need his 70-yard fly pattern much, though, if at all. He also won't have to routinely throw a 60 mph out pattern. He will need to duck and run from D Lineman more than either of these other plays. I heard Selle was about 5 sec in the 40, not 4.77? Probably depends on the track and whether he was fully geared, or not. If you every wanted an ego-check, run a 40 with and w/o pads...humbling. Of course, not many kids ever get to run 40 yards flat out either......................

catatac · Post by **catatac** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 3:50 pm

Like I could even run a 40... with or without pads. Reminds me of a buddy's response when another buddy asked him how many pull-ups he could do. "Pull-up?... There's no way I could do a frickin pull-up!"

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