Mediocrity!!

OZCAT · Post by **OZCAT** » Sun Nov 13, 2005 12:20 pm

It was frustraring to listen to the game in the second half as we did not seem to make any adjustments. It appears coach Kramer coaches with his emotions. What happened to Groves running the ball and Kory Austin returning punts? (Both show real promise for the future.)

At times EW was only rushing 2 lineman and covering our receivers well (zone defense). They were giving us the run but we continued to pass. Why? If I were the coach I would have continued to run Groves and had Travis run the ball more (I know he had 70+ yards running but it seemed a lot of those were late in the game...tooo late). Also the quick passes to Gatewood over the middle have been effective all year and in fact have been our running game at times...why not run that more?

It seems if we took what EW was giving us (the run) and had success they eventuallywould have had to respect that ...and our passing game would have had more of a chance to be successfull ( I don't think they would have continued dropping 8 players into pass coverage).

I know we had a lot of dropped passes and that (in retrospect) Travis did not have a great game but that could have been different. There were no apparent adjustments in the second half except to abandon our running game (as usual) and pass, pass, pass. The adjustments I have suggested are not rocket science...whats up with our coaching staff? I think they lost the game for us.

PS

Kramers comments on the radio were rather humorous... he actually hinted that some distractions in the locker room and side lines by cheerleaders (volleyball players?) may have contributed to the loss...but then he did state it wasn't the reason we lost.

seataccat · Post by **seataccat** » Sun Nov 13, 2005 2:12 pm

I was excited when Kramer got the job and I think he has been a great coach. I think he is good with the kids. My major criticizism of him is that he has conceded the in state recruiting battle.

I think Kramer has had serious pressure to win. Instead of trying to build a program recruiting Montana High School Freshmen he always seems to try to fill weaknesses with a ton of JC transfers. I would feel much better about the MSU program if it were mediocre with a bunch of Montana freshmen than with a bunch of JC guys. The program will never compete with the grizzlies or have sustained success as long as they are chasing there tails trying to fill holes with a bunch of transfers.

When you think about bobcat stars of the past the vast majority of them were recruited from Montana high schools and were in the system for four or five years.

ChiOCat · Post by **ChiOCat** » Sun Nov 13, 2005 3:18 pm

lifeloyalsigmsu · Post by **lifeloyalsigmsu** » Sun Nov 13, 2005 6:21 pm

seataccat wrote:I was excited when Kramer got the job and I think he has been a great coach. I think he is good with the kids. My major criticizism of him is that he has conceded the in state recruiting battle.

I think Kramer has had serious pressure to win. Instead of trying to build a program recruiting Montana High School Freshmen he always seems to try to fill weaknesses with a ton of JC transfers. I would feel much better about the MSU program if it were mediocre with a bunch of Montana freshmen than with a bunch of JC guys. The program will never compete with the grizzlies or have sustained success as long as they are chasing there tails trying to fill holes with a bunch of transfers.

When you think about bobcat stars of the past the vast majority of them were recruited from Montana high schools and were in the system for four or five years.

Do you really think he has conceded the in state recruiting battle? I certainly don't. If anything, I think he has actually made strides over the past couple of years. Face it, the Cats are still only several years removed from the 0-11 debacle and in a matter of 4 or so years, Kramer has made some major strides in getting some quality MT players.

We've rehashed this before, but all of the players who have been recently recruited (and those who will be recruited in the future) by each school grew up watching the jizz dominate the Cats.

seataccat · Post by **seataccat** » Sun Nov 13, 2005 7:54 pm

I don't believe if you ask him he would admit it but the griz comb the Montana high schools harder than the cats do just look at their roster. Kramer does give a pretty damn good rah rah speech and try to get lots of Montana kids to walk on. I still think that most of the scholarships are reserved for perceived badly needed immediate holes.

I think Kramer's best recruiting class at MSU was his first and most of them were Montana boys. The environment that he recruited that class in was very bad indeed. They had lost a dozen or so in a row to the friz and he still managed to out recruit them in state that year. The best college players are not always the best high school players.

I am certainly not asking for Kramer's job, I think we are lucky to have him. My point is that he should take more chances with freshmen rather than reloading with transfers every year. I might take a year or two but in the long run the program will be better off for it.

bobcatgrad2005 · Post by **bobcatgrad2005** » Mon Nov 14, 2005 7:32 am

This is my first post, so here I go.

For those of you accusing Kramer of recruiting JC kids as a "quick fix," you are just the same. You don't want to wait 5-10 years to build the facilites, atmoshpere, or damn cheering section they have in that place-that-shan't-be-mentioned down the road. When was the last time the 'Cats had a 4 year winning record? So your qucik fix is to fire the most recognizable man on the Montana State University Campus. Good idea. I saw some 5 year old kid ask Kramer for his autograph last Thursday night in Hastings, wanna explain to him why his favorite bald headed man isn't coaching his favorite team anymore?

Kramer, and his family, have added class to this town. I knew his daughter when she was going to school here, and once saw her get verbally assaulted by a players mother who was unhappy with her son's lack of playing time. She handled it cooly and walked away. Any guy that can raise his daugther with that kind of calm can stay as long as he wants.

I know for a fact that Kramer could have had both the Montana, Idaho, and an assistant position at Utah State in the 48 hours after he accepted the 'Cats position. UM offered him $200 k, but he had too much CLASS to reneg on his committment to MSU. And now, he stays, witout more than a 1 year contract, because he wants to continue to build a program.

So for those of you ready to light the torches and load the shotguns, go back and do some self anaylsis on your posts. Yes, Mr. Clean recruits JC's and (god forbid) out of state players like Joey Thomas, Travis Luluay, and Roger Cooper. Yes, building aprogram takes $$$ (where would UM be without MR. Washington?). And yes, getting 'over the hump' takes time. Just look at Denny Alverez at Wisconsin. I thin when it's all said and done, Kramer will retire when he's won enough games to name the football stadium after him, and only to become Governor. Oh wait, he's not a Montanan... I bet you'd vote for Judy again though, she is?

And I'm done.

bobcatmaniac · Post by **bobcatmaniac** » Mon Nov 14, 2005 7:55 am

I would like to see Kramer stay, but what the heck is Bailey doing here? Throw short passes, eat time off the clock when you are LOSING?? Kramer is ultimately to answer for all his crappy assistants.

catsrback76 · Post by **catsrback76** » Mon Nov 14, 2005 8:32 am

bobcatgrad2005 wrote:This is my first post, so here I go.

For those of you accusing Kramer of recruiting JC kids as a "quick fix," you are just the same. You don't want to wait 5-10 years to build the facilites, atmoshpere, or damn cheering section they have in that place-that-shan't-be-mentioned down the road. When was the last time the 'Cats had a 4 year winning record? So your qucik fix is to fire the most recognizable man on the Montana State University Campus. Good idea. I saw some 5 year old kid ask Kramer for his autograph last Thursday night in Hastings, wanna explain to him why his favorite bald headed man isn't coaching his favorite team anymore?

Kramer, and his family, have added class to this town. I knew his daughter when she was going to school here, and once saw her get verbally assaulted by a players mother who was unhappy with her son's lack of playing time. She handled it cooly and walked away. Any guy that can raise his daugther with that kind of calm can stay as long as he wants.

I know for a fact that Kramer could have had both the Montana, Idaho, and an assistant position at Utah State in the 48 hours after he accepted the 'Cats position. UM offered him $200 k, but he had too much CLASS to reneg on his committment to MSU. And now, he stays, witout more than a 1 year contract, because he wants to continue to build a program.

So for those of you ready to light the torches and load the shotguns, go back and do some self anaylsis on your posts. Yes, Mr. Clean recruits JC's and (god forbid) out of state players like Joey Thomas, Travis Luluay, and Roger Cooper. Yes, building aprogram takes $$$ (where would UM be without MR. Washington?). And yes, getting 'over the hump' takes time. Just look at Denny Alverez at Wisconsin. I thin when it's all said and done, Kramer will retire when he's won enough games to name the football stadium after him, and only to become Governor. Oh wait, he's not a Montanan... I bet you'd vote for Judy again though, she is?

And I'm done.

Somone smarter than all of us once said something like , "insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting everything to change."

I'm not sure I have heard many discussions about getting rid of Kramer. I have said myself, and heard others make the point, that Kramer as the head coach is the "buck stops here" man. We know who leads the leaders of this team, Kramer.

That being said, his coaching decisions recently have much to be desired. Though he may not have called the offensive side of the game, he would have implicitly permitted the game plan to go forward. Lack of adjustments at halftime in a game with the kind of implications as the Eastern game had, are more than puzzling.

As "THE MAN" of MSU football, he is responsible to set the direction and make the changes to push the program forward. He has done that. He has made up a lot of ground. To say there is more ground to take is not being critical of his influence to date. We like the fact he buys books at Hastings. But--he now needs to pick up a book on Leadership and make some changes in his coaching staff.

I think, without having met the man up close, Kramer is a loyal man. He will stick by anyone who works faithfully alongside him. That is great----but can become a blindness as well. What Kramer does is promote and lead the staff to get the best football out of his team. Right now he is doing a great job of promoting but is not leading the team well. He leads his coaches who appear to be missing some very important signs of weakness and strength on the team. ( I won't go into that now)

If we expect to get over the top in the future, it is my humble opinion that changes need to be made in the staff. Kramer needs to stay, but, he needs to bring in some coaches who have the "soup" to make the necessary changes on both sides of the ball to allow the kids to compete at a higher level than they have.

If we do not make changes and expect everything to change, we are insane.

bobcatmaniac · Post by **bobcatmaniac** » Mon Nov 14, 2005 9:07 am

Bravo, my thoughts exactly!

CARDIAC_CATS · Post by **CARDIAC_CATS** » Mon Nov 14, 2005 9:45 am

go_catz! wrote:who cares if we win next week...still no playoffs. Get over the Cat/Griz game, I'd rather lose it every year and still play in the playoffs.

Posted this in another thread:

I've long been a reader of this board, but now, I can't hold my tongue any longer. What a pathetic performance today in Cheney. We need some change, instead of this bullsh!t every year getting the Cats' fans hopes up and then failing (miserably) in the big game.

As a season ticket holder, I am extremely disappointed. Could someone please tell me the Cats' road record the last few years? And what hasn't changed the last few years? Players...yes, coaches...NO! Look at the talent we have, look at the record, hold on while I vomit. If anyone thinks the players are to blame, think again. Who's in charge of this team full of talent? You'd think someone with that big of a head could figure it out a little better than that.

I'm tired of the sh!t we read and hear every year about how good our Cats are going to be and then see this. Not once in our "comeback" years have we been convincing...no outright BSC titles, no playoff wins. Lets get some staff in here who can lead us to a winning program instead of some idiot with stupid one-liners that make us laugh. Its not going to get any better either. Lulay is the best bobcat we've ever seen, but obviously he wasn't enough.

In Kramer's defense, he has made some improvements...tough to improve from an 0-11 season though...

Oh come on now. There are many people in this program that care if we win this weekend. If our players/coaches/fans can't get up for Cat/Griz then their is something wrong. This game is huge EVERY YEAR and you throw the records out. This is one of the biggest in state rivalries in the NATION! We absolutely need to win this week and YES it is a HUGE game for this program!

catamaran · Post by **catamaran** » Mon Nov 14, 2005 9:59 am

It seems to me now that a lot of us are short sighted....It wasn't too long ago that we were bowing at the alter of Kramer after Cliff had burned all of his bridges here. There were times when we couldn't get enought kids for the practice squad. We've gone from 0-11 to a constant in the BSC race with two conference championships to boot. There has never been a program built overnight and ours won't be any different. Lets focus on cheering on a Cat victory this weekend to give us something we haven't had in a few DECADES....a class of seniors who have beaten the Griz 3 out of 4

Robcat · Post by **Robcat** » Mon Nov 14, 2005 10:19 am

I refused to listen to the game on Saturday, because I was afraid of a let down. It just astounds me with the talent the Cats have, the game was lost. Was it coaching or was just college football on any given Saturday.

I know that our playoff hopes are over, but we still have one more big game at home and the Cats will beat the Griz. Lets be there to cheer them on.

I am sorry to hear, from the postings on this board, that Lulay had a bad game. But I know I will get very misty eyed when Lulay's name is called as a senior and he walks on that field as a senoir with his parents.

Travis has done a tremendous amount for Bobact football in his 4 years at MSU. Lets give him the send off he has earned and deserves.

As far as coaching goes Kramer is my man. Like Lulay he has brought this program out of the dark ages. I know his career has been a 50/50 coach, but he has built a program that makes you proud to be a Bobcat. What will he do in the future as the head coach? He will make adjustments in the coaching staff and we will once again move forward as a contender in Big Sky football. Is that so bad? I think not, and I am anxious for next season.

Once again lets give Lulay and Company the loudest cheer ever heard in Bobcat stadium this Saturday! Lets show our colors and pride as Bobcat fans!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Helcat72 · Post by **Helcat72** » Mon Nov 14, 2005 10:33 am

I agree that we need more Montana kids in the program. we may get the athletes that are on a par with UM, but we don't get the passion that Montana kids have grown up with. I'm not saying that the California kids give up, but winning here doesn't really mean as much as kids like Bobby Daly, Mac Mollohan and Nick Marudas.

In the EWU game I saw a defense playing all out as long as Wulf played straight up dropback passing, and straight ahead running plays, but when they started getting the ball to Kimble, and (God forbid) ran a trick play (QB throwback) The dam seemed to open up and there weren't enough thumbs to stick in the dike! It seemed that as soon as the GAME PLAN showed a sign of fallibility , panic set in and the effort sort of waned. The only one that was still out there making plays was Marudas. Why do you think Montana has won so steadily? The reason other teams in the league seem to fade is because they have a lot of kids that just want to play football and be a college student...I believe that Montana kids want to win for their state, and if you have a lot of them on the team...you won't see anyone taking a play off or mailing in their effort when the chips are down. I don't think this applies to all out of staters (e.g. Travis Lulay, Ryan Force) but you don't always get that type of kid in your program as a rule.

Our defensive staff better EXPECT trick plays this weekend because Hauck doesn not have a problem with using trickery to win games like Kramer obviously does. Kramer seems to think it's a sign of weakness to run a reverse on a kickoff, run a flea flicker, throwback or fake a field goal. We can expect all of the above fromthe Griz especially because they haven't been very productive on offense. And naturally we will get a full portion of Lex.

P.S. It's November and it must be cold because I think Hell is freezing over. Last night I heard Bobby Hauck actually call us Montana State and he was very complimentary of Travis.

FootballFan · Post by **FootballFan** » Mon Nov 14, 2005 11:02 am

I agree Kramer is a PR machine. He has done a tremendous job of filling the stands. As an X and O's coach he is terrible. Proof his two stints as an OC (EWU and MSU) were disasters! Special teams have steadily gotten worse over the past few years under his guidence (only when Corey Smith was returning were the return teams successful). Is this enough for you? I just can't see his ever coaching a team that wins 8-10 games. This was his best shot this year.

Some of you keep refering to how far Kramer has brought the program from an 0 - 11 start only four years ago. Are you kidding me! That 2000 team was only two years removed from 7- 4 team that played for the conference championship! I still hold Kramer acountable for that season, maybe they didn't have great players but Humboldt State!! That team should never been 0 - 11!!

Offensively Bailey has ridden the coat tails of Lulay for 4 years. If Lulay plays well offense plays well and vice versa, it certainly has never been a situation where Bailey has out schemed an opponent! There is no way in my opinion, the offense will be better over the next few years, they lose too many key players. Kramer will probably give Bailey another year, but then I feel it will really show how poor a coach he is when the offense really sucks next year without Travis!

Kramer deserves and will have another year regardless of the outcome of the Griz game. But please quit telling everyone how great he is.

With a win over the Griz, he will only have to go 8 - 3 next season the have as good of a win - loss percentage as Hysell after seven seasons. Don't think it's going to happen!\

What's the old saying about how you can fool most of the people some of the time, I think Kramer has fooled most of the people.

Hell's Bells · Post by **Hell's Bells** » Mon Nov 14, 2005 11:04 am

catsrback76 wrote:
bobcatgrad2005 wrote:This is my first post, so here I go.

For those of you accusing Kramer of recruiting JC kids as a "quick fix," you are just the same. You don't want to wait 5-10 years to build the facilites, atmoshpere, or damn cheering section they have in that place-that-shan't-be-mentioned down the road. When was the last time the 'Cats had a 4 year winning record? So your qucik fix is to fire the most recognizable man on the Montana State University Campus. Good idea. I saw some 5 year old kid ask Kramer for his autograph last Thursday night in Hastings, wanna explain to him why his favorite bald headed man isn't coaching his favorite team anymore?

Kramer, and his family, have added class to this town. I knew his daughter when she was going to school here, and once saw her get verbally assaulted by a players mother who was unhappy with her son's lack of playing time. She handled it cooly and walked away. Any guy that can raise his daugther with that kind of calm can stay as long as he wants.

I know for a fact that Kramer could have had both the Montana, Idaho, and an assistant position at Utah State in the 48 hours after he accepted the 'Cats position. UM offered him $200 k, but he had too much CLASS to reneg on his committment to MSU. And now, he stays, witout more than a 1 year contract, because he wants to continue to build a program.

So for those of you ready to light the torches and load the shotguns, go back and do some self anaylsis on your posts. Yes, Mr. Clean recruits JC's and (god forbid) out of state players like Joey Thomas, Travis Luluay, and Roger Cooper. Yes, building aprogram takes $$$ (where would UM be without MR. Washington?). And yes, getting 'over the hump' takes time. Just look at Denny Alverez at Wisconsin. I thin when it's all said and done, Kramer will retire when he's won enough games to name the football stadium after him, and only to become Governor. Oh wait, he's not a Montanan... I bet you'd vote for Judy again though, she is?

And I'm done.
Somone smarter than all of us once said something like , "insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting everything to change."

I'm not sure I have heard many discussions about getting rid of Kramer. I have said myself, and heard others make the point, that Kramer as the head coach is the "buck stops here" man. We know who leads the leaders of this team, Kramer.

That being said, his coaching decisions recently have much to be desired. Though he may not have called the offensive side of the game, he would have implicitly permitted the game plan to go forward. Lack of adjustments at halftime in a game with the kind of implications as the Eastern game had, are more than puzzling.

As "THE MAN" of MSU football, he is responsible to set the direction and make the changes to push the program forward. He has done that. He has made up a lot of ground. To say there is more ground to take is not being critical of his influence to date. We like the fact he buys books at Hastings. But--he now needs to pick up a book on Leadership and make some changes in his coaching staff.

I think, without having met the man up close, Kramer is a loyal man. He will stick by anyone who works faithfully alongside him. That is great----but can become a blindness as well. What Kramer does is promote and lead the staff to get the best football out of his team. Right now he is doing a great job of promoting but is not leading the team well. He leads his coaches who appear to be missing some very important signs of weakness and strength on the team. ( I won't go into that now)

If we expect to get over the top in the future, it is my humble opinion that changes need to be made in the staff. Kramer needs to stay, but, he needs to bring in some coaches who have the "soup" to make the necessary changes on both sides of the ball to allow the kids to compete at a higher level than they have.

If we do not make changes and expect everything to change, we are insane.

where would we be without kramer? really where would we be? while i will jump on the "baily cant coach his way out of a paper bag" bandwagon i have personally witnessed the expansion not to mention back to seriousness of bobcat football. While yes some of kramers decisions have somthing to be desired would those of us who would coach better them stand up...thought so *sit down bearback*.

im sick of this...one loss and all of a sudden we start acting like chicken little...and the sky is not falling!

bobcatgrad2005 · Post by **bobcatgrad2005** » Mon Nov 14, 2005 11:12 am

Some of you have rooted the problem not to Kramer, but to his assistant coaches. So let's compare the '02 coaching staff with the current one...

'02
Marcell Yates (now coaching at Bosie State)
John Rushing (hired away, and rehired at Utah State)
Joe O'Brien (need I say)

'05
family guys, only Jr. Adams is unmarried

there are others, I just can't remember all the coaches as well...

the biggest differesnce between the two is the meaness of the coaches. The '02 guys knew how to make players bite, for better or worse. The assistants now are just as good caliber coaches, but perhaps not as good motivators. I know the two are linked, this is just an observation. Now if you want meanness, I'm sure O'B will be looking for a job in a few years...

As for Bailey, didn't they rewrite the offensive record books last year? Something along the lines of averaging over 500 yards of offense in their last 3 (losses) games? Even with that redheaded girzzly killer, it's not allways going to be a win for the Bobcats.

I'm not trying to say wew need to hire hard edged guys to produce a good team, I'm just noting the link between the two. I'd like to hear you opinions on this...

canyoncat · Post by **canyoncat** » Mon Nov 14, 2005 11:21 am

No matter what happened Saturday, I did see some postive things that will carry over to this week and next year. 1) Even though we gave up 28 points on defense, over all the defense played very well. We are going to be a very good defensive team this week and next year. The defense just pounded on Meyer all day, but a great player such as Meyer is going to get it done and he did with his legs. 2) Groves is the real deal. He won't put up Ryno numbers, but he won't have to. Taito will also get lots of carries next year and pound the ball against defenses. Those two are going to be a very good combination for years to come. Groves will put up some good numbers this week. The defense will be too much for a very mediocre griz offense. The Cats will win this week as they will hold Lex down below his average. Then we will get to wait and see if we get a shot in the playoffs. That part is beyond our control. So, lets win this week and see what happens.

GO CATS!!

Cat Scratch Fever · Post by **Cat Scratch Fever** » Mon Nov 14, 2005 1:14 pm

im sick of this...one loss and all of a sudden we start acting like chicken little...and the sky is not falling!

I don't think any long-time Cat fan acts like the sky is falling from one loss. After all it’s not easy being a Cat fan over the past few decades. The reason so many Cat fans are up in arms this week is how we lost. Plain and simple we were not prepared! In the situation that the Cats were in, that’s inexcusable. I don’t care how much you have succeeded in your career, if you blow the big contract because you weren’t prepared then you will have some answering to do.

Having to call a time out on the first play from scrimmage, poor clock management at the end of the first half, not being able to adjust when the defense goes from man-to-man to zone coverage, giving up on the run when you are only 7 points behind… all these speak volumes about the level of readiness on the part of the Bobcats. A good coach would have contingency plans for every situation. Even when we have won this year, it is evident that the Bobcats don’t have a good game plan. I also don’t like the fact that Mike Kramer laid the blame on the receivers. It would seem to me that the coaching staff did not do enough to put the receivers in a position to do their best.

The argument that he should stay based on where we have come from is akin to saying its ok that we are mediocre. Is it enough to just contend for the Big Sky Championship? In my mind until we contend for the national championship every year we will always take the back seat to the Griz.

G.W.Bush · Post by **G.W.Bush** » Mon Nov 14, 2005 1:35 pm

Cat Scratch Fever wrote: I don't think any long-time Cat fan acts like the sky is falling from one loss. After all it’s not easy being a Cat fan over the past few decades. The reason so many Cat fans are up in arms this week is how we lost. Plain and simple we were not prepared! In the situation that the Cats were in, that’s inexcusable. I don’t care how much you have succeeded in your career, if you blow the big contract because you weren’t prepared then you will have some answering to do.

Having to call a time out on the first play from scrimmage, poor clock management at the end of the first half, not being able to adjust when the defense goes from man-to-man to zone coverage, giving up on the run when you are only 7 points behind… all these speak volumes about the level of readiness on the part of the Bobcats. A good coach would have contingency plans for every situation. Even when we have won this year, it is evident that the Bobcats don’t have a good game plan. I also don’t like the fact that Mike Kramer laid the blame on the receivers. It would seem to me that the coaching staff did not do enough to put the receivers in a position to do their best.

The argument that he should stay based on where we have come from is akin to saying its ok that we are mediocre. Is it enough to just contend for the Big Sky Championship? In my mind until we contend for the national championship every year we will always take the back seat to the Griz.

I agree with you totally!

I would also like to add this; when you watch the WRs you see them run their routes and stop. If Lulay is scrambling you don't see the WRs try to get open. This is poor coaching. I counted on several occasions WRs standing still watching Lulay run for his life. I also noticed that Bailey kept calling deep passes. Has anyone else noticed the high number of deep passes that we run, and the relatively few that we complete? Lulay is an intermediate completion QB. Why does Bailey insist on airing the ball out all the time? We are most productive with passes that are 15 yards or shorter. Bailey wanted to go for the throat on EVERY offensive play. That is why we haven't seen a running game all season. Teams have figured our offensive staff out. We are going to throw deep. We only look for the big plays. That is why our time of possession has been so poor this entire season. We need some serious changes in our offense! Namely a new offensive coordinator.
Some good news is that we have a young talented RB and I have only heard good things about our back up QBs. Things aren't as bad in Bobcatland as they could be, but this will be a VERY long winter for all of us football fans.

raincat · Post by **raincat** » Mon Nov 14, 2005 2:07 pm

I was at the game and saw what I saw. I'm not up to reading all the posts so if not already covered...why did we have a need to call timeout before the first play was run?
How is it possible that we keep getting flagged for letting the the play clock expire when we are punting?
Why didn't we make a few obvious defensive adjustments after EWU made a few offensive adjustments and began throwing the short look-ins gobbling up 8-15 yards at a crack?
Why didn't we make a few offensive adjustment when EWU made a few defensive adjustments by putting players, coaches, cheerleaders, band and mascot in the box to bring the heavy heat?
This I know is blasphemous, but part of the problem with the receivers is TL is constantly getting the ball to the "spot" late.
Did everyone else at the game note with about 11 minutes left in the first quarter the ref asked the scoreboard guy to add 8 seconds back on the time clock? Did everyone notice that didn't get done? Did anyone note in the last few seconds of the half we kicked a duck into the wind? Add those seconds back on and we easily have another play? No big deal? Those little things change outcomes.
Our football team is capable of beating the griz. GO CATS. BEAT THE GRIZ! I'm done.

Mediocrity!!

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