Harsh letter

Platinumcat · Post by **Platinumcat** » Sun Nov 06, 2005 9:16 pm

theblackgecko wrote:
BelgradeBobcat wrote:Okay, first off I admit getting emotional and worked up during Bobcat games and I've wanted a coach or two ran out of town after a bad loss, or unexpectadly narrow win once in a while-but that's just the emotions of being a fan. I can't cast too heavy a stone at Mr. Grigsby (whoever he is). But anyone who's followed Bobcat football for a long while should be very happy with the current program and its progress.

When you read a letter like that you can see how our school fired Sonny Lubick at one time-and are now somewhat of a laughingstock for doing so. Lubick's years were frustratingly medicore after the Sonny Holland years, but as we saw with the 1984 championship (mostly Lubick recruits I believe) he had the program going the right direction.

Kramer has achieved 4 winning seasons in a row, 2 shared Big Sky titles, 2 playoff appearances (maybe a third this year ) and 2 wins over the griz (maybe a third this year ). We did not have that kind of consistent success in the 80's or 90's. We have also had the Big Sky's top defense and one of the Big Sky's top offenses in that time. Now if we can just have the top offense and defense in the same season-but that might happen next year!

So I say great work coach Kramer and staff-thanks for the great memories the last several years, and here's to many more in the future.

I hope the team takes that letter and tapes it to the locker room wall. What a great motivator!
Does that include the winning season of 2001? Cats were 5-6 that year.

Gecko,
What is your point?

Belgradebobcat I thought your comments were right on. Kramer & CO have turned around a struggling program and provided a serious shot of energy into it.

alasax · Post by **alasax** » Sun Nov 06, 2005 9:32 pm

I haven't heard so many fans get so excited since the last national championship.
Kramer and co. must be doing something right.
The team is exciting and has a winning attitude.
Can you think of another staff in the Big Sky you would rather have?
The grass always seems to be greener where ever you aren't.
Oh....I believe Lombardi had some critics as well.

Go CATS! Two more left!

PapaG · Post by **PapaG** » Sun Nov 06, 2005 10:46 pm

theblackgecko wrote: Does that include the winning season of 2001? Cats were 5-6 that year.

And? I believe BelgradeBobcat said four straight winning seasons.

2002
2003
2004
2005

How does 2001 figure in this four year stretch? Or are you just a Griz troll who made a mistake of basic math?

BelgradeBobcat · Post by **BelgradeBobcat** » Sun Nov 06, 2005 11:07 pm

theblackgecko wrote:Does that include the winning season of 2001? Cats were 5-6 that year.

No. 2001 was our last losing season. We have 6 wins in 2005-thus guranteeing a 4th winning season in a row-as has been posted by others.

GrizinWashington · Post by **GrizinWashington** » Sun Nov 06, 2005 11:40 pm

PapaG wrote:
theblackgecko wrote: Does that include the winning season of 2001? Cats were 5-6 that year.
And? I believe BelgradeBobcat said four straight winning seasons.

2002
2003
2004
2005

How does 2001 figure in this four year stretch? Or are you just a Griz troll who made a mistake of basic math?

Please. Griz fans would agree with you that Kramer has the Cat program headed in the right direction. But we're far too busy counting our 20 straight winning seasons, our 13 straight playoff appearances, our 5 national championship appearances, etc to post negative things on your board.

GavinDonos · Post by **GavinDonos** » Sun Nov 06, 2005 11:49 pm

GrizinWashington wrote:Please. Griz fans would agree with you that Kramer has the Cat program headed in the right direction. But we're far too busy counting our 20 straight winning seasons, our 13 straight playoff appearances, our 5 national championship appearances, etc to post negative things on your board.

Yawn. Another cut and paste post from another cut and paste grizidiot. Welcome to the board, noob.

Oh, hey, while your at it, why don't you tell us about your stadium, or maybe your mascot...

lol

GrizinWashington · Post by **GrizinWashington** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 12:00 am

GavinDonos wrote:
GrizinWashington wrote:Please. Griz fans would agree with you that Kramer has the Cat program headed in the right direction. But we're far too busy counting our 20 straight winning seasons, our 13 straight playoff appearances, our 5 national championship appearances, etc to post negative things on your board.
Yawn. Another cut and paste post from another cut and paste grizidiot. Welcome to the board, noob.

Oh, hey, while your at it, why don't you tell us about your stadium, or maybe your mascot...

lol

Get to 20 straight winning seasons, then we'll chat.

wbtfg · Post by **wbtfg** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 12:18 am

GrizinWashington wrote:
GavinDonos wrote:
GrizinWashington wrote:Please. Griz fans would agree with you that Kramer has the Cat program headed in the right direction. But we're far too busy counting our 20 straight winning seasons, our 13 straight playoff appearances, our 5 national championship appearances, etc to post negative things on your board.
Yawn. Another cut and paste post from another cut and paste grizidiot. Welcome to the board, noob.

Oh, hey, while your at it, why don't you tell us about your stadium, or maybe your mascot...

lol

Get to 20 straight winning seasons, then we'll chat.

Please direct your smack to the smack board. That's what it's there for.

CelticCat · Post by **CelticCat** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 1:01 am

GrizinWashington wrote:
PapaG wrote:
theblackgecko wrote: Does that include the winning season of 2001? Cats were 5-6 that year.
And? I believe BelgradeBobcat said four straight winning seasons.

2002
2003
2004
2005

How does 2001 figure in this four year stretch? Or are you just a Griz troll who made a mistake of basic math?
Please. Griz fans would agree with you that Kramer has the Cat program headed in the right direction. But we're far too busy counting our 20 straight winning seasons, our 13 straight playoff appearances, our 5 national championship appearances, etc to post negative things on your board.

It does take most griz fans a long time to count to 20.

BWahlberg · Post by **BWahlberg** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 1:05 am

Back to what he was saying before he started dropping stats, I do think most Griz fans agree that the cats have made a significant turnaround over the last few years.

In the 90's Griz fans weren't worried about playing the cats, just looking forward to kicking their butts on the field. Now it's different, Griz fans are usually more worried about playing the cats than anyone else on their schedule.

Btowncat · Post by **Btowncat** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 7:41 am

At the outset, may I make it clear that I appreciate what Kramer and company have done here, and I want them to stay. But I think since the disaster that was the era of Earl Solomonson (who was a good man, but a poor head coach in the Big Sky), we've been satisfied with competence in our coaching staff, rather than looking for excellence.

Hell's Bells · Post by **Hell's Bells** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 10:58 am

wbtfg wrote:Wow...I really think that this dude needs to get a life. Calling for the firing of our coaching staff when we are tied for first place w/ two regular season games to go?

This dude must be spending too much time on egriz.

Sports letters: Time for MSU football coaches to produce

To: Mike (Kramer), Don (Bailey) and Pete (Kwiatkowski):

Well boys, I have had about all I can stand. This year is your last chance to pull the rabbit out of the hat.

You have a team that is loaded on offense and very good on defense, yet you still can't get the job done to

anyone's satisfaction.

To: Don

I have said for the last three years that you should be replaced. Up until this year, your idea of a game plan was to run the same three plays over and

over again.

This year you have mixed it up a little, but everyone watching the game in the stands and at home along with every Big Sky coach knows that on first down you will run a running play up the gut 80 percent of the time. The only thing that the other defense should expect is the unexpected.

To: Pete

I have given you the benefit of the doubt for a long time.

Since the Idaho State game, where it took you an entire half to figure out how to counter a

trap play, and then the abysmal showing with NAU, I am convinced you need to go also.

To: Mike

You are a great guy. I think I can say that most people love you.

You of all people should be seeing these problems. The buck stops with you.

Your most recent comments about the team “being afraid of the dark” is just plain wrong. It is not a failure of the team. It is a coaching failure.

When I see mass confusion getting a play into Travis Lulay, when I see confusion getting a play into the defense, that looks like a problem with coaching.

Why don't you let Travis Lulay call his own plays? He is a smart kid. I think he can do just as well as Don.

And let your defensive captain call the defense. Again, he is most likely a smart kid.

Let them do it.

I realize that you have some giant ego problems on your staff. This is your last chance. You have a team capable of going deep into the playoffs.

It they don't win the

next two games, all of you should pack your bags and move on.

One more point: A .500 record does not a winning coach make.

Denis Grigsby

Bozeman

To denis Grigsby

i had to wait like 2 hours to post this...your hatred for everything bobcat is astounding.

1) we are tied for first place
2) we actually have a good chance to beat eastern and the griz

i have a simple suggestion for you: go root for the griz.

I bet they have room for b.s. bandwagon fans like yourself

p.s. dont say that you have been a fan for a long time unless 2002 counts as a long time for you

CARDIAC_CATS · Post by **CARDIAC_CATS** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 12:11 pm

Short and Sweet ---> The guy who wrote this letter is in the HUGE MINORITY. I just read it and laughed pretty much

tetoncat · Post by **tetoncat** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 4:10 pm

And if we don't schedule Cal poly on the road when they had their full team, and OSU and schedule two "less dominant teams" (to be Griz correct) at home we are probably sitting with at the most two losses. A split in the final two games would give us a playoff berth with an 8-3 or 9-2 record. maybe we should just play 5 of 6 at home every year, pad the record and then brag about our winning seasons

Eastcoastgriz · Post by **Eastcoastgriz** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 4:31 pm

tetoncat wrote:And if we don't schedule Cal poly on the road when they had their full team, and OSU and schedule two "less dominant teams" (to be Griz correct) at home we are probably sitting with at the most two losses. A split in the final two games would give us a playoff berth with an 8-3 or 9-2 record. maybe we should just play 5 of 6 at home every year, pad the record and then brag about our winning seasons

Good luck with that.

Bleedinbluengold · Post by **Bleedinbluengold** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 2:01 pm

It's gotta be some sort of fan-site milestone when "wbtfg" gets accused of being a griz fan. I wonder how soon egriz hit that milestone.

More likely, Denise Grigsby is the griz fan...

is that libelous?

Bleedinbluengold · Post by **Bleedinbluengold** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 2:07 pm

CelticCat wrote:Kramer doesn't need any negativity right now, he needs all the positive reinforcement he can to get his troops ready for the Eagles.

You might be too young, but all I could think of was Donald Sutherland in Kelly's Heroes when he responds to all the "negative vibes" coming from "Crap Game."

raincat · Post by **raincat** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 2:18 pm

For the record..I didn't see it mentioned above...the longest Bobcat winning streak is 9 (nine) seasons; 1956-1964. As follows, 9-0-1, 8-2, 8-1, 6-3, 5-3-1, 4-3-1, 7-3, 6-3, 7-4. Seven & two vs. the griz. This is pre-BCS and we played everyone for Arizona State, Utah State, and Tulsa to St. Ambrose, Western State and Colorado Mines.

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