Time to think about the Dakotas

LongTimeCatFan · Post by **LongTimeCatFan** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 7:44 pm

#22 North Dakota State (who beat Montana)

I was at a Bobcat home game and after the Bobcats won their game, they put the final minutes up on the jumbo-tron. Almost everyone stayed to see the Griz lose by one point! Way to go NDSU. That was a glorious day for the Cats.... two victories in one day! I hope we get to see more of those this year.

WYOBISONMAN · Post by **WYOBISONMAN** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 11:38 pm

That is a great story.....I didn't know that they watched that at the stadium! I am glad we made the Cat fans happy last September. The Griz fans gave us no credibility prior to that game. But, ever since they have been a good bunch to chat with on egriz.

WYOBISONMAN · Post by **WYOBISONMAN** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 7:47 am

Here is some info on BSC expansion from the Fargo Forum. Fullerton is saying that he is looking at 4 schools (SUU, UNC, SDSU and NDSU). UNC has seemed not interested in the BSC and I have heard that many are uncomfortable with SUU's academics and SUU already has a conference. Makes me wonder if NDSU and SDSU have the best shot at the invite....

http://www.in-forum.com/articles/index. ... ion=Sports

WYOBISONMAN · Post by **WYOBISONMAN** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 6:07 am

An extensive article from the Fargo Forum that make a Big Sky move sound very possible for NDSU......

http://www.in-forum.com/articles/index. ... ion=Sports

CARDIAC_CATS · Post by **CARDIAC_CATS** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 8:20 am

LongTimeCatFan wrote:
#22 North Dakota State (who beat Montana)
I was at a Bobcat home game and after the Bobcats won their game, they put the final minutes up on the jumbo-tron. Almost everyone stayed to see the Griz lose by one point! Way to go NDSU. That was a glorious day for the Cats.... two victories in one day! I hope we get to see more of those this year.

That was awesome, the team even stayed out on field/lounged as they watched the OVERCONFIDENT GRIZ go down in flames. Came down to final kick and BAM ... missed right. CROWD GOES NUTS

Cat-theotherwhitemeat · Post by **Cat-theotherwhitemeat** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 8:22 am

CARDIAC_CATS wrote:
LongTimeCatFan wrote:
#22 North Dakota State (who beat Montana)
I was at a Bobcat home game and after the Bobcats won their game, they put the final minutes up on the jumbo-tron. Almost everyone stayed to see the Griz lose by one point! Way to go NDSU. That was a glorious day for the Cats.... two victories in one day! I hope we get to see more of those this year.

That was awesome, the team even stayed out on field/lounged as they watched the OVERCONFIDENT GRIZ go down in flames. Came down to final kick and BAM ... missed right. CROWD GOES NUTS

Say, how did your guys' homecoming come out last year?

kittyeater · Post by **kittyeater** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 8:53 am

Yeah, what WAS the score of that homecoming game?

theblackgecko · Post by **theblackgecko** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 10:22 am

Initially, I was skeptical of allowing NDSU/SDSU to join the BSC. But, with Sac State/PSU looking to do a disappearing act (thank God), it leaves the BSC with 6 all sports members. The Dakota schools certainly have a stronger commitment to athletics than Sac/PSU, and although the plane flight to Brookings might be a bit long, it cannot be worse than the Sac/Flagstaff road trip. Overall, I think it would strengthen the conference to add the Dakota schools are all sports memebers.
I hear UND mentioned from time to time. While I don't think they would be a good BSC fit, do they have plans to move up?

WYOBISONMAN · Post by **WYOBISONMAN** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 10:36 am

UND is totally driven by hockey and the hockey interests want the other sports to stay D2. If UND were to make the move it will be a ways into the future, not in the near term.

catatac · Post by **catatac** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 11:35 am

That was funny, and I was exiting the stadium when it happened, listening on the radio, and that makes it all the better. In fact, I probably wouldn't hate the Griz so much if it weren't for those radio announcers. The arrogance, overconfidence, and lack of respect for the other teams is amazing. I've heard them say some ridiculous things over the years, expecially Gurnsey. During this one though, it was funny right before the kick - "And here comes Hauck to have a chat with Snyder, what do you think he's sayin Gurnz?" "I'll tell ya exactly what he's sayin Mick - Ya want your steak medium or extra rare!" Nervous Laughter "He's talkin about anything but that kick! There's no way he's missin this one Mick. He knows what it means and he's the only guy I would ever want in this situation now... he's the best there is" more nervous laughter. "This one's goin nowhere but right down the gut!" The snap is good, the hold is good, the kick is... no good. That one seemed to shut Gurnsey up for awhile... As stated, the only reason I think those times are so funny is because I recall all the crappy things I've heard Gurnsey say on the air about the Cats, Bozeman, and Cat fans in general. Suck on that one!!!

jagur1 · Post by **jagur1** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 11:58 am

Things are getting a little chippy. Nothing a little football can't cure. It's getting close boys and girls.

Anybody know a way to cancel August? I'm thinking it's going to be a interesting year. Go Griz.

PS The only thing is: Blowing out Adams state isn't going to solve any of our issues.

CARDIAC_CATS · Post by **CARDIAC_CATS** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 1:15 pm

WYOBISONMAN wrote:That is a great story.....I didn't know that they watched that at the stadium! I am glad we made the Cat fans happy last September. The Griz fans gave us no credibility prior to that game. But, ever since they have been a good bunch to chat with on egriz.

Yeah, I remember ... super sugar coated frosted flakes posts before the game, really stale old bran muffin posts after the loss

jagur1 · Post by **jagur1** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 1:19 pm

Like any of you are any different. Please.

"We all serve the same master and he uncaring and unforgiving"

Cat-theotherwhitemeat · Post by **Cat-theotherwhitemeat** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 1:41 pm

jagur1 wrote:Things are getting a little chippy. Nothing a little football can't cure. It's getting close boys and girls. Anybody know a way to cancel August?

No kidding, this is going to be a nasty place the week of the Griz/Cat game. It's not football, but I'll be in Billings this weekend to take the Motorcycle Hillclimb!!

jagur1 · Post by **jagur1** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 1:51 pm

I hope it's like today cloudy and 80s. I'll be the one in the old ratty looking Griz hat with the little towheaded 3 year old. (I might have a beer or burger in one hand).

CARDIAC_CATS · Post by **CARDIAC_CATS** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 2:03 pm

jagur1 wrote:Like any of you are any different. Please.

"We all serve the same master and he uncaring and unforgiving"

I knew I'd get you to respond to that one Jaeger! You are one of the better Griz posters on EGRIZ ... your posts are usually about half the Carbs of the other posters

Cat-theotherwhitemeat · Post by **Cat-theotherwhitemeat** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 2:06 pm

jagur1 wrote:I hope it's like today cloudy and 80s. I'll be the one in the old ratty looking Griz hat with the little towheaded 3 year old. (I might have a beer or burger in one hand).

I hope it's hot, I need to work on the tan. I'll be wearing a Griz hat as well with a beer in each hand. Texas Hold-em afterwards

CARDIAC_CATS · Post by **CARDIAC_CATS** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 2:17 pm

Cat-theotherwhitemeat wrote:
jagur1 wrote:I hope it's like today cloudy and 80s. I'll be the one in the old ratty looking Griz hat with the little towheaded 3 year old. (I might have a beer or burger in one hand).
I hope it's hot, I need to work on the tan. I'll be wearing a Griz hat as well with a beer in each hand. Texas Hold-em afterwards

I'm heading to Vegas this weekend so I'm gonna miss the hillclimb for the first year in last 4-5 years

Didn't know it was on the same weekend when I booked it. HAVE FUN GUYS. I love the Hillclimbs.

Cat-theotherwhitemeat · Post by **Cat-theotherwhitemeat** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 2:22 pm

CARDIAC_CATS wrote: I knew I'd get you to respond to that one Jaeger! You are one of the better Griz posters on EGRIZ ... your posts are usually about half the Carbs of the other posters

It's the Adkins E diet...

89rabbit · Post by **89rabbit** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 11:49 pm

More news from the Big Sky. Here are excerpts from Chris Solari's story from today's Sioux Falls Argus Leader:

http://www.argusleader.com/sports/Satur ... cle2.shtml

Door to Big Sky still open for Jacks
Chris Solari
Argus Leader

published: 7/24/2004

School presidents to discuss expansion at Aug. 9 meeting

South Dakota State is back in the sights of the Big Sky Conference.

When the league held its preseason football meeting Monday in Flagstaff, Ariz., Big Sky Commissioner Doug Fullerton said the Aug. 9 conference presidents' meeting will focus on expansion, specifically mentioning four schools including SDSU. . . .

Those words are a distinct reverse in course from what the the Big Sky's presidents said in February 2003, the last time they met to talk about expansion. SDSU and North Dakota State jointly approached the Big Sky about membership last year, at which time Montana State President Geoffrey Gamble arranged that meeting.

Afterward, Gamble said, "The door isn't completely closed." But he also admitted that the idea of additional travel into the Dakotas made some of the league's top brass leery, and the leaders told SDSU and NDSU to look elsewhere for conference affiliation in their ascent to Division I.

"From my perspective, the Dakota schools have always been in the packages I've been interested in," Gamble said Friday.

"Part of what I hoped is that my colleagues would get to the point where they wanted to discuss expansion, and that's the point we're at now."

The Aug. 9 meeting is scheduled for 10 a.m. MDT in Salt Lake City. Dusty Clements, assistant commissioner for the Big Sky, said that it should last a few hours.

"It certainly would say that we're on their radar screen," SDSU athletic director Fred Oien said.

That radar didn't pick up SDSU last year for one major reason - geography. At that time, the Big Sky presidents felt the increased travel costs involved with adding the two Dakota schools made them unlikely targets for expansion. The presidents felt then that if expansion happened, it would be to the west.

Travel distance is certainly a topic that Gamble and his comrades will again discuss heavily this time. He said that SDSU President Peggy Miller and her NDSU counterpart Joseph Chapman have been working to allay some of those concerns.

"My perception is that my colleagues are more interested in seriously looking into expansion now than they were eight or nine months ago," Gamble said. . . .

One of the many rumors surrounding the Big Sky was that the conference was targeting former member Idaho for expansion if the Vandals returned to I-AA from I-A. Idaho recently accepted membership into the Western Athletic Conference, a league which plays I-A football.

Another rumor is that the entire league could potentially leave the Division I-AA football ranks for the big-time of I-A. The Big Sky presidents will also likely touch on that in Salt Lake City, Clements said.

"I think that will be discussed because (the presidents) will all be in a room at the same time, and that doesn't happen that often," Clements said.

Gamble said he doesn't expect the Big Sky to ask any schools to join at that time, but he admits that if six of the league's eight presidents vote yes that they could extend a membership offer that day. That is the required number of votes to make such a decision. . . .

The presidents of the Mid-Continent Conference, the other league mentioned as a potential home for SDSU, met earlier this month and said they would continue to look at expansion. . . .