MTnative wrote: ↑Sun Sep 15, 2024 8:22 pm
GoldstoneCat wrote: ↑Sun Sep 15, 2024 4:38 am
onceacat wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2024 10:39 pm
MTnative wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2024 9:13 pm
MSU01 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2024 8:50 pm
MTnative wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2024 8:47 pm
TV contracts and NIL have absolutely ruined the pageantry of college football. FCS was an awesome niche in college sports that will die by ten thousand paper cuts.
Take a bow Mark Emmert and company.
Not sure if it's fair to blame the NCAA for NIL, they tried their best to prevent it for decades until the courts got involved and started ruling against them.
The NCAA rolled over and allowed it to happen.
But yes, the blame isn’t just a function of bad executive leadership. This is cultural, it is the result of an entitled generation that found footing in the legal system to secure financial gain.
For the record, I am and will remain strongly against anybody in the FCS as it currently is moving up to FBS.
Its really hard to fault football players as 'entitled' when the NCAA, coaches, ADs, staff, EA sports, announcers, ESPN, and everyone else was getting rich off them & they were getting peanuts.
A cultural expectation that a man gets paid fairly for his work has now become 'entitlment'?
Weird.
To be clear, the NCAA fought tooth and nail on this. It took a Supreme Court decision to recognize that people have a right to be paid for doing their job.
Agreed. The fact that the NCAA fought these kids for years, instead of getting together with their bowls, their conferences, their TV partners, and their advertisers to put in place a system to make the athletes who were generating all that wealth a part of the system, that's where the blame lies. When you have to live with a system the courts were forced to implement because of the aforementioned parties' insatiable greed, and live with it after the fact, you get something that looks like what we have today, this ad-hoc NIL wild west combined with the ability to basically be free agents, or even mercenaries if you prefer, at all times. Greed is to blame here, to the extent there needs to be blame, but to say it's the players' fault is a bad, bad take, I agree onceacat.
It isn’t the players fault. The NCAA and legal system just rationalized the legal claim by stating that athletes are “employees.” Nobody forced the courts to do anything. That isn’t how the legal system works.
STUDENT athletes are not employees. They are stewards of the university’s programs. And their scholarships are the “compensation.”
It isn’t a “bad take,” it’s an opinion. Spare me the “you’re wrong because I’m right” patronizing bullcrap.
You seem really hung up on the relationship between the players and the universities. Thats not at question. It's not a big deal if students only get free tuition and room and board for their services on the field.
The issue at hand-that you don't seem to understand-is that the NCAA tried to license the players NAME, IMAGE and LIKENESS for the EXCLUSIVE benefit of the NCAA.
For super duper simplistic and obvious reasons, thats illegal. It would be illegal for the NFL or NBA to do it, it would be illegal for your employer to do it, and it would be illegal for you to do it to your employees.
Again, its not just that you are wrong, its that the NCAA argued your case in front of multiple courts, including a VERY ideologically divided Supreme Court, which in a 9-0 decision rejected your argument...that football players couldn't be in a commercial 'off the clock'.
Its only 'patronizing' becasue somehow you think you are correct when SCOTUS, and an appeals court, and a district court has rejected your opinion out of hand.
You are flat out wrong. It has nothing to do with me, and everything to do with the fact that your argument has been rejected by every single court of every single ideological disposition thats heard the case.
"Patronizing"? Sheesh. Just read the opinion and actually educate yourself for crying out loud.
