Spring Ball 2025

[VimSince03]

Some kids have grown up the past two years.

[AFCAT]

Some kids have grown up the past two years.

I'd surmise it's safe to say that Seth Brock (91) isn't 204 lbs anymore.

[TomCat88]

Some kids have grown up the past two years.

I'd surmise it's safe to say that Seth Brock (91) isn't 204 lbs anymore.

That's from last year. Yes, very safe to say. Brock was one of the more talked about guys in the press box yesterday. I thought he was a big time hoop player in HS, but I had him mixed up with another Idaho guy, King. Brendon Ross came up a lot. Dane Steel, Trimble, Frederickson, Ezekiel, Rollins, Lencioni, among others. Colter really likes Ezekiel and the entire OL group. King was up and down. He got targeted a lot but dropped a couple balls. He got open a lot. King and Taco both dropped key passes by Duchien, which really skewed Duchien's numbers.

[91catAlum]

I thought the most interesting thing of the scrimmage was the quarterbacks working on throwing from "multiple platforms." I didn't notice this last year with Mellott but after thinking about it I do recall him trying to do this. He wasn't terribly successful with it as I recall but I wasn't really watching for it at the time so I'm not sure at all.

I noticed it during warmups and didn't really think much of it, but then the game started, and I noticed all three QBs doing it, especially Wilson and Duchien. I thought it looked good for those two. Warren didn't get into much of a flow, but he's only been here a couple months. Wilson and Duchien both made a couple mistakes, but overall, they looked good for this point in their development. If Wilson hits Valcins and hits Trimble in stride, he's got a full step on Duchien for the scrimmage. Duchien's last ball was a bad one and was easily intercepted by Williams. I think Wilson's ability to run is going to be a difference maker between the two, but Duchien is way ahead of where I thought he'd be, so I have to think he's going to continue to develop over the summer and maybe close the gap in the fall. Great competition there. We'll see if Lamson is better, same or worse. Very promising element for MSU though.

Coon and White proved that MSU's run game isn't going away any time soon. 39 carries for 231 yards. Just under 6.0 per carry. Add on Woods and it's 42 for 266 and over 6.0. That was against one of the best defensive lines they'll face all year.

The downside was the failure to catch passes by the WRs. There were at least six bad drops and two were intercepted. At least one cost a first down.

Great learning moment for Wilson early on. One play after he made a nice pass for a TD to Woods, he had Trimble open on a post and he looked incredibly confident setting up for the throw. Got everything together and let go of a ... wounded duck ... that appeared destined to be intercepted by Carr only to see Trimble make a spectacular and very heady play to wrestle the ball away from Carr for a 47-yard gain. I think Wilson just got excited there and lost a little focus on that throw.

Seth Brock is a budding beast on defense. He's going to see the field this year despite how deep the DL is.

Good stuff, thanks Tom!

Duchien was definitely the surprise of the day for me. He threw the ball every bit as well as Wilson, IMO. Since the QBs weren't live, I'd think Wilson has the lead since his legs are a big part of his game. But Duchien is absolutely in the mix at this point.

Duchien did have the bad pick at the end but it looked like he expected Trimble to cut off the route, which he did not, and the DB got an easy pick. But Wilson had a few bad ones too, such as the 47 yard wounded duck you mentioned, plus the drop on the crossing route to Taco - that ball was thrown behind him. Taco had to stop and try to reach behind to grab it, he did get hands on it but I don't think it was his fault. Also there was a similar crossing route by another receiver, #10 i think, where the ball was thrown about 4 yards behind him. I didn't see if there was pressure maybe, but the pass was not close.

White started the day looking great at RB and then Coon tore it up as the game went on. Both look great, I thought White hit the portal a few months ago but I guess not.
Neither Julius nor Adam were dressed.

[BelligerentBobcat]

I wasn’t at the game, so I can’t comment much, but I heard Dethman’s name a lot on the broadcast.

Again, I didn’t see Duchien’s interception at the end, but probably good for us to remember that we don’t know the route the WR was supposed to run. No idea if the plan was ran correctly or not. I view that differently than a ball vastly underthrown, personally.

[GoldstoneCat]

I thought the most interesting thing of the scrimmage was the quarterbacks working on throwing from "multiple platforms." I didn't notice this last year with Mellott but after thinking about it I do recall him trying to do this. He wasn't terribly successful with it as I recall but I wasn't really watching for it at the time so I'm not sure at all.

I noticed it during warmups and didn't really think much of it, but then the game started, and I noticed all three QBs doing it, especially Wilson and Duchien. I thought it looked good for those two. Warren didn't get into much of a flow, but he's only been here a couple months. Wilson and Duchien both made a couple mistakes, but overall, they looked good for this point in their development. If Wilson hits Valcins and hits Trimble in stride, he's got a full step on Duchien for the scrimmage. Duchien's last ball was a bad one and was easily intercepted by Williams. I think Wilson's ability to run is going to be a difference maker between the two, but Duchien is way ahead of where I thought he'd be, so I have to think he's going to continue to develop over the summer and maybe close the gap in the fall. Great competition there. We'll see if Lamson is better, same or worse. Very promising element for MSU though.

Coon and White proved that MSU's run game isn't going away any time soon. 39 carries for 231 yards. Just under 6.0 per carry. Add on Woods and it's 42 for 266 and over 6.0. That was against one of the best defensive lines they'll face all year.

The downside was the failure to catch passes by the WRs. There were at least six bad drops and two were intercepted. At least one cost a first down.

Great learning moment for Wilson early on. One play after he made a nice pass for a TD to Woods, he had Trimble open on a post and he looked incredibly confident setting up for the throw. Got everything together and let go of a ... wounded duck ... that appeared destined to be intercepted by Carr only to see Trimble make a spectacular and very heady play to wrestle the ball away from Carr for a 47-yard gain. I think Wilson just got excited there and lost a little focus on that throw.

Seth Brock is a budding beast on defense. He's going to see the field this year despite how deep the DL is.

Good stuff, thanks Tom!

Duchien was definitely the surprise of the day for me. He threw the ball every bit as well as Wilson, IMO. Since the QBs weren't live, I'd think Wilson has the lead since his legs are a big part of his game. But Duchien is absolutely in the mix at this point.

Duchien did have the bad pick at the end but it looked like he expected Trimble to cut off the route, which he did not, and the DB got an easy pick. But Wilson had a few bad ones too, such as the 47 yard wounded duck you mentioned, plus the drop on the crossing route to Taco - that ball was thrown behind him. Taco had to stop and try to reach behind to grab it, he did get hands on it but I don't think it was his fault. Also there was a similar crossing route by another receiver, #10 i think, where the ball was thrown about 4 yards behind him. I didn't see if there was pressure maybe, but the pass was not close.

White started the day looking great at RB and then Coon tore it up as the game went on. Both look great, I thought White hit the portal a few months ago but I guess not.
Neither Julius nor Adam were dressed.

Re: RB room... if you told me we had to go win a big sky title with Coon and White as the 2 headed combo, I would be very comfortable with that situation. The fact they're 3 and 4 is much exciting.

[TomCat88]

I wasn’t at the game, so I can’t comment much, but I heard Dethman’s name a lot on the broadcast.

Again, I didn’t see Duchien’s interception at the end, but probably good for us to remember that we don’t know the route the WR was supposed to run. No idea if the plan was ran correctly or not. I view that differently than a ball vastly underthrown, personally.

Yes, Dethman is another name that popped up a lot.

That incorrectly run route could definitely be the case. If so, I’d say MSU needs to clean that up.

Duchien also did a great job getting players lined up. Seems to have a good handle on the offense.

[RickRund]

Wilson has one miss to Valcin that would've been a touchdown but overall looks very confident and operating his unit well. He's #1 with Pat #2 prior to Lamson getting here in my book.

You think Lamson slots in ahead of Wilson? Hard to say without having seen him, obviously, but looking for your educated opinion.

They are bringing in a transfer to compete for the starting job. I would not be surprised at all if Lamson is our QB against Oregon but Chance and Pat don't make it easy for him in the fall. To me that's best case scenario (meaning Chance and Pat need to make it hard).

[catsrback76]

I wasn’t at the game, so I can’t comment much, but I heard Dethman’s name a lot on the broadcast.

Again, I didn’t see Duchien’s interception at the end, but probably good for us to remember that we don’t know the route the WR was supposed to run. No idea if the plan was ran correctly or not. I view that differently than a ball vastly underthrown, personally.

Yes, Dethman is another name that popped up a lot.

That incorrectly run route could definitely be the case. If so, I’d say MSU needs to clean that up.

Duchien also did a great job getting players lined up. Seems to have a good handle on the offense.

This is fun to hear! Knowing that we’re replacing a 6th rounder NFL drafted QB with 2-3 who ( assuming Lamson) plays at the same level or better… makes for an exciting new season full of intrigue!

Sounds like after the Spring we’re looking good for the summer and fall camps and the upcoming season!

[TomCat88]

I wasn’t at the game, so I can’t comment much, but I heard Dethman’s name a lot on the broadcast.

Again, I didn’t see Duchien’s interception at the end, but probably good for us to remember that we don’t know the route the WR was supposed to run. No idea if the plan was ran correctly or not. I view that differently than a ball vastly underthrown, personally.

Yes, Dethman is another name that popped up a lot.

That incorrectly run route could definitely be the case. If so, I’d say MSU needs to clean that up.

Duchien also did a great job getting players lined up. Seems to have a good handle on the offense.

This is fun to hear! Knowing that we’re replacing a 6th rounder NFL drafted QB with 2-3 who ( assuming Lamson) plays at the same level or better… makes for an exciting new season full of intrigue!

Sounds like after the Spring we’re looking good for the summer and fall camps and the upcoming season!

I saw Titan and someone else get up limping but only temporarily. So, yes, it looks like they're healthy and should be able to get a full summer of work in.

Sterbeck seems to have a new twist on the short passing game and while none of the QBs have it perfected, they do seem to be pretty good at it. Their numbers reflect the new approach: 31 for 45 288 yards. They missed a few and dropped a handful. The ball got spread out to a lot of different receivers with Woods, Trimble, and Dowler all getting 6+ catches and Steel with three. Clean just some of that the drops and misfires and it's a very efficient offense. Need to go back and watch film of Lamson to see if he's done anything similar.

[BelligerentBobcat]

I wasn’t at the game, so I can’t comment much, but I heard Dethman’s name a lot on the broadcast.

Again, I didn’t see Duchien’s interception at the end, but probably good for us to remember that we don’t know the route the WR was supposed to run. No idea if the plan was ran correctly or not. I view that differently than a ball vastly underthrown, personally.

Yes, Dethman is another name that popped up a lot.

That incorrectly run route could definitely be the case. If so, I’d say MSU needs to clean that up.

Duchien also did a great job getting players lined up. Seems to have a good handle on the offense.

This is fun to hear! Knowing that we’re replacing a 6th rounder NFL drafted QB with 2-3 who ( assuming Lamson) plays at the same level or better… makes for an exciting new season full of intrigue!

Sounds like after the Spring we’re looking good for the summer and fall camps and the upcoming season!

A couple things.

Tommy was drafted as an athlete, not a QB.

We do not have 2-3 QB’s who are going to play at the same level or better. There might be certain things they can potentially do better, mainly in the passing game, but even that’s a maybe, but everything else will almost certainly be a downgrade.

[lutecat]

I wasn’t at the game, so I can’t comment much, but I heard Dethman’s name a lot on the broadcast.

Again, I didn’t see Duchien’s interception at the end, but probably good for us to remember that we don’t know the route the WR was supposed to run. No idea if the plan was ran correctly or not. I view that differently than a ball vastly underthrown, personally.

Yes, Dethman is another name that popped up a lot.

That incorrectly run route could definitely be the case. If so, I’d say MSU needs to clean that up.

Duchien also did a great job getting players lined up. Seems to have a good handle on the offense.

This is fun to hear! Knowing that we’re replacing a 6th rounder NFL drafted QB with 2-3 who ( assuming Lamson) plays at the same level or better… makes for an exciting new season full of intrigue!

Sounds like after the Spring we’re looking good for the summer and fall camps and the upcoming season!

A couple things.

Tommy was drafted as an athlete, not a QB.

We do not have 2-3 QB’s who are going to play at the same level or better. There might be certain things they can potentially do better, mainly in the passing game, but even that’s a maybe, but everything else will almost certainly be a downgrade.

I wasn't sure what he was getting at. Sarcasm? I haven't seen anyone say qb play would be better than Tommy so....?